I just gave the background on that. Obama did not speak out for over a week.
I remember it from while it was happening. Do you not? Do your own research.
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I remember it from while it was happening. Do you not? Do your own research.
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KT88
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Conflicting reports abound, on all sides and issues. Sign of the times, or just more of the same?
Social media
i was reading Newseek
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check...l-guard-after-rioters-stormed-capitol-1560186
it's a pretty murky situation.
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KT88
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DOD claimed that they had offered support to the DC cops (I'd need to find the source) prior to trumps rally. Maybe they thought that a white crowd would not act like the BLM protests. It's going to take more time for the facts to come out on why there was a failure of Intel to foresee that this could have happened.
I think the thinking was that the capitol building was sacrosanct and there may have been protests but not the riotous carnage on and in the building by the law and order "patriots". Blue Lives Matter until they get in the way of an insurrection.
have a look at the newsweek article i linked, it's fairly informative, tho there are certainly things that still need to be explained.
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KT88
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Ya I checked it out. From reporting and the fact that trump was on the phone to one of his supporter holed up in the building asking him to use the riot to further his request for the GOP to out votes speaks volumes he was not concerned about the riot.
From Forbes:
Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan said Thursday that the Department of Defense “repeatedly denied” to authorize deployment of Maryland’s National Guard troops to help quell violence at the Capitol on Wednesday.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrew...l-to-send-national-guard-to-capitol/?sh=789ed
Gov Larry Hogan on request:
yeah i heard about that. i thought it was pretty funny that the POTUS had dialed the wrong number lol
and i thought it was damning that he was calling to try to convince him to object to more states electoral college votes at the very time this congressman's life was literally in jeopardy from rioting insurgents who had broken into the capitol building.
seriously -- let's not imagine Trump didn't know this was going on when he made the call. he was on hold for 10 minutes while the wrong-number senator from Utah tried to find the congressman from Alabama he had meant to call. it took 10 minutes because secret service were trying to move them safely out of the building, hiding and quickly moving from one secure chamber to another. this is what our Dear Leader decided was the appropriate phone call to make at that moment??
wow. imagine for one moment what CC's news section would look like if this was Obama, not Trump, who had done or failed to do all these things. to me there is clear & obvious non-objectivity in the nominative American church when they talk about worldly partisan politics.
speaking as a Christian i think i ought to distance myself from all these politics altogether.
speaking as an American citizen i think that if the POTUS is an honorable man he should immediately resign. but president is not an honorable man - so i think the cabinet should immediately invoke the 25th amendment and remove him from office. but his cabinet are not honorable men & women, so they are resigning or staying mum instead. so i agree as an American that he should be impeached a second time and prevented from holding appointed or elected office in the country ever again. i do not see this as a partisan issue, at all.
just my 2¢
speaking as an American citizen i think that if the POTUS is an honorable man he should immediately resign. but president is not an honorable man - so i think the cabinet should immediately invoke the 25th amendment and remove him from office. but his cabinet are not honorable men & women, so they are resigning or staying mum instead. so i agree as an American that he should be impeached a second time and prevented from holding appointed or elected office in the country ever again. i do not see this as a partisan issue, at all.
just my 2¢
`^ except for John sullivan, who has been arrested in the past for inciting riots, and self-identifies as antifa, was one of the ones up front, breaking into the building and leading the charge inside.
but, no worries, i am sure he was acting alone.......
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KT88
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trumps supporters turn on their own (or was it antifa - lol)
From Reuters, warning language:
Sen. Lindsey Graham heckled by pro-Trump supporters at the airport
From Reuters, warning language:
Sen. Lindsey Graham heckled by pro-Trump supporters at the airport
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KT88
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'Hang Mike Pence' trends on Twitter after platform suspends Trump for risk of 'incitement of violence.
From Fox news:
Twitter saw a surprising item trending on Friday night when "Hang Mike Pence" hit around 14,000 tweets, according to reports.
The social media platform announced Friday night that it was permanently suspending President Donald Trump’s Twitter account.
The decision was made "due to the risk of further incitement of violence," according to a statement on the company’s blog.
Many users were confused, then, to see such a violent item in the trending section
Full story:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/twitter-trending-hang-mike-pence
From Fox news:
Twitter saw a surprising item trending on Friday night when "Hang Mike Pence" hit around 14,000 tweets, according to reports.
The social media platform announced Friday night that it was permanently suspending President Donald Trump’s Twitter account.
The decision was made "due to the risk of further incitement of violence," according to a statement on the company’s blog.
Many users were confused, then, to see such a violent item in the trending section
Full story:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/twitter-trending-hang-mike-pence
One of their own? Or an imposter? Since they are accusing him of not fulfilling
his promised mandate to them, and calling him a traitor. So who turned on who???
hmm it says here he denies having any antifa affliation, and that the FBI - who definitely knows he was there - apparently doesn't consider him antifa either, because they've said they have no evidence there was antifa involvement at the capitol. which, considering that over the last few months Trump has replaced a lot of FBI leadership and made a big deal about 'loyalty to him' in the department, it'd be weird for them to be covering for him, wouldn't it?
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/09/facebook-posts/facebook-posts-wrongly-claim-left-wing-activist-an/
but i've never heard of him, i just thought i'd poke around for a minute when i read your post. i've only skimmed through 5 or 6 websites trying to figure out who you were talking about before writing this reply, not really done any kind of 'due diligence'
on a related note, this is interesting --
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/facial-recognition-antifa-washington-times-false
the washington times apparently spread a story claiming that a facial recognition company had ID'd antifa members at the capitol riot. the company itself sued them to 'cease a desist' with their fake story, saying that they actually identified neo-nazi's and Q-anon conspiricists, not anyone from antifa. the times retracted their story & reprinted a corrected version, but not before it had gone viral.
for those of you who did read the fake washington times story, did you also hear that they had admitted it was false, and retracted it?
do you believe them or do you think they were 'coerced by evil liberals' to retract their story?
it's interesting to me whether efforts to reverse the spread of disinformation have any effect at all.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/facial-recognition-antifa-washington-times-false
the washington times apparently spread a story claiming that a facial recognition company had ID'd antifa members at the capitol riot. the company itself sued them to 'cease a desist' with their fake story, saying that they actually identified neo-nazi's and Q-anon conspiricists, not anyone from antifa. the times retracted their story & reprinted a corrected version, but not before it had gone viral.
for those of you who did read the fake washington times story, did you also hear that they had admitted it was false, and retracted it?
do you believe them or do you think they were 'coerced by evil liberals' to retract their story?
it's interesting to me whether efforts to reverse the spread of disinformation have any effect at all.
You are absolutely correct. The double has been firmly entrenched since 2016 (or even earlier since 2008). There is one standard for the Left, which is that all evil will be consistently treated as good. There is another standard for the Right, which is that all good will be consistently treated as evil. This may reflect the massive subversion of America by Communists from within.
What is totally shameful is that absolutely no so-called Republican politician had the guts to condemn the condemnation from the Left, and all the calls for impeaching Trump again. And absolutely no one laid the blame for the disturbances on January 6 at the doorstep of the Supreme Court. Those feckless and cowardly justices are ultimately responsible for the destruction of America. The courts now also have a double standard, therefore no citizen should expect true justice from here on out. If the President could not receive justice, then no citizen should ever again expect justice. The rule of law has ended.
the utah dessert news had the story of mr. sullivan's arrest back in the summer.
he actually is with insurgence u s a and at least one point he said he was with b l m,
so, i was wrong on the antifa stuff.
Either way though if you think about it if they wanted to implement an overthrow of our rights then like Magenta said the first would fall first then the second. So before the second can fall with https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/5717 then they needed to do away with the first. So what took place across the last four or so years in the U S ?
First is you right to free speech,freedom of religion,freedom of the press ect. and so the first is attacked by the spread of the term "fake news" and now most do not trust any of the news media and are turning to youtube or other alternative news sources on the www but not many trust the mainstream press anymore. Most of the threads on the Christian forums across the last few years are filled with comments questioning who is Christian or not based on their political views.
Freedom of speech deserves a longer explanation because it as it seems is becoming a right that many are "giving up"(or will) because of what has taken place? I ask it as a question because of the groups you mentioned like blm,antifa ect. but we could add all the other groups in it because most do not understand something yet.
What did happen it seems is that since they desired to implement the safety act (second) they needed to know who is in which group in the u s so they began the friction in the media that they told you was fake and watched everyone for the last four years "talk with their thumbs" in the different social media forums on the www. The reason why is those who frequent the extremist sites have been doing so and expressing their support on every social media web site for the last four years.
So it seems that to get to the second they first needed to identify who was in support of those groups and now they have all of everyone's past post,emails, ect. and when HR5717 becomes law they know exactly who to give a firearms/ammo license because everyone told them with their thumbs if they are a threat or not based on the groups they endorsed. So it's a matter of "giving up free speech" that is as soon as they realize it is being used against them they will no longer say the things they are with their thumbs. This is the very reason why many of the ones who have been so outspoken will soon be crying because they cant get a license to buy bullets for their guns.
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SophieT
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Proverbs is overflowing with good advice you should take
The riots, to which you refer, were held in Democratic cities
You know that. And aren't you Canadian or something? Checked: states active member from Canada and that is the flag under which you were presumably born. I guess you have to come here to be active since no one is allowed to do very much in Canada at this time.
Like I said, you know what is really going on and yet it seems you prefer to spread fabrications.