Conspiracy thinker vs trust

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PennEd

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Yes it is only a little over 2% that die but a lot more than that who are gravely ill for two months. And 2% is a lot of people. The vaccine is a God send and will wipe it out. It is only a matter of time now.
This is a flat out lie. What's worse, you KNOW it's a lie!

The death rate of positive people comes NO WHERE NEAR 2%.
 
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This is a flat out lie. What's worse, you KNOW it's a lie!

The death rate of positive people comes NO WHERE NEAR 2%.
Very easy to fact check. "What is the mortality rate of COVID19"
It ranges. Some states are higher some lower. Globally, who knows yet.
Check out this database and do your own calculations.
Of course if you don't accept the numbers in this database then you will make up your own stats.
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
 

GaryA

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So the conspiracy theorist is the guy with the red eyes? Which means that conspiracy theorists get mad when you give them facts that disprove their theory? Is that the point?
We really need an emoticon added to the post-reaction list that means 'Lame'.

The best I could do for this post is 'Old' - as in - "your antics have gotten old"... :p
 

GaryA

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@Scribe - has it ever occurred to you that it just might be that a lot of the data you are looking at could have been "made up"...???
 

PennEd

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@Scribe - has it ever occurred to you that it just might be that a lot of the data you are looking at could have been "made up"...???
If it "occurred to me" then I would verify how the data is collected to find out. And I have checked into how the data is collected in the site below and am very satisfied that it is accurate enough to draw conclusions and take into consideration a margin of error so that the numbers are probably under reported rather than over reported. You can read about how the data is collected.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
 
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This is a flat out lie. What's worse, you KNOW it's a lie!

The death rate of positive people comes NO WHERE NEAR 2%.
When people start lying to increase the validity of their claim u should probably ignore it
When they resort to insults rather than address your argument then you should probably disengage as its a clear admission that they have been defeated and exposed

Im finding that many deniers now are falling into two categories

1/ The "if u can't beat em join em" attitude. One of my friends said this to me and when u think about it, its insane.
They've woken and seen the scam but choose to concede and submit. Why. An inflated pride won't allow them to admit error

2/ They are connected to covid... Maybe a nurse or doctor but there are many new jobs that have been created; covid guards, temperature checkers, covid sanitation cleaners, covid testers and so on... These people are being paid by this scam... Their greedy and self centered, thinking only about themselves, they care not for anyone else or the future of humanity

I tried to find out where this bloke is coming from and was berated for it so my guess is the 2nd one
 

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Americans Can't Sue Pfizer, Moderna In Case of Covid-19 Vaccine Side Effects


There are those that put there trust in men ...
But who is to blame if someone develops an allergic reaction to the coornavirus vaccine? None, that is what US lawyers have to say. In US court of law, there is no one to be blamed for it.

The US government has given companies like Pfizer and Moderna 'immunity' from liability if something unintentionally goes wrong with their vaccines, the CNBC reported.


Original Article Link : Immunity from Liability

There are those that put there trust in God !!!



Psalm 9:10

And they that know thy name will put their trust in thee: for thou, LORD, hast not forsaken them that seek thee.

Original Link : Open your bible and read :)

You have to make a decision , it can't be both ...

Shalom​
 

BarryC

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How can a conspiracy thinker regain trust in the system and participate again?
I’m a little too hard on myself and the system with this. I simply don’t trust them (politics, science, healthcare, educational system) and can’t allow myself to bend a knee here.
So it ends up taking my social life and I might end up on the short end depressed and broke...

Coming from the pit once I know how easily it’s all lost. They way down is always faster then the way up....
But I just can’t seem to get up this time... This conspiracy is just too obvious and they lied too much and taken us for fools too many times.

“You can’t fool all the people all the time.”
 

BarryC

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When people start lying to increase the validity of their claim u should probably ignore it
When they resort to insults rather than address your argument then you should probably disengage as its a clear admission that they have been defeated and exposed

Im finding that many deniers now are falling into two categories

1/ The "if u can't beat em join em" attitude. One of my friends said this to me and when u think about it, its insane.
They've woken and seen the scam but choose to concede and submit. Why. An inflated pride won't allow them to admit error

2/ They are connected to covid... Maybe a nurse or doctor but there are many new jobs that have been created; covid guards, temperature checkers, covid sanitation cleaners, covid testers and so on... These people are being paid by this scam... Their greedy and self centered, thinking only about themselves, they care not for anyone else or the future of humanity

I tried to find out where this bloke is coming from and was berated for it so my guess is the 2nd one


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https://newzealandjustice.com/forum.../open-forum/2799-help-yourself-to-electricity

https://newzealandjustice.com/forum/newzealandjustice-com/open-forum/1808-
 

PennEd

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Mr. Scribe! We love you.
Why oh why can you not see what they have planned for us?

Big Tech Coalition Is Developing a Digital COVID Vaccination Passport

A coalition of tech and health organizations including Oracle, Microsoft, and the Mayo Clinic, is reportedly working to develop a digital COVID-19 vaccination passport that would allow businesses, airlines, and governments to check if individuals have received the vaccine.

The Hill reports that a coalition of health and technology organizations are working to develop a new digital COVID-19 vaccination passport that could be checked by businesses, airlines, and countries to confirm if an individual has received the vaccine. The coalition includes tech giants such as Microsoft and Oracle, along with the Mayo Clinic.

On Thursday, the Vaccination Credential Initiative announced that it is developing technology to confirm vaccinations in case governments mandate that people provide proof that they have received a vaccination in order to travel.
The coalition hopes that the tech will allow people to “demonstrate their health status to safely return to travel, work, school and life while protecting their data privacy.” The group is using work from the Commons Project’s international digital document that verifies a person has tested negative for COVID-19.
Currently, the Commons Project’s system, which was created in partnership with the Rockefeller Foundation, is being utilized by three major airline alliances. The coalition is reportedly currently in discussions with several governments to create a program requiring either negative tests or proof of vaccination to enter the country, according to Commons Project chief executive Paul Meyer.
Meyer stated in a release: “The goal of the Vaccination Credential Initiative is to empower individuals with digital access to their vaccination records so they can use tools like CommonPass to safely return to travel, work, school, and life, while protecting their data privacy.”

Mike Sicilia, the executive vice president of Oracle’s Global Business Units, commented that the passport “needs to be as easy as online banking,” and added: “We are committed to working collectively with the technology and medical communities, as well as global governments, to ensure people will have secure access to this information where and when they need it.”
 

Blain

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You know we can talk about collective data credible resources statistics ect. but the problem is that a lot of information has been compromised google twitter and apple are all banding together to silence anything opposing the democrates we literally could have our freedom of speech taken away
Now what we do know about this virus is that yes it is real and it is dangerous however it also is very much like the flu in a lot of ways it is most deadly to the elderly and those like me with damaged immune system diebetes smokers all of which I am we also know that isolated people has the opposite effect that we were first lead to believe we know that masks actually don't even help as the virus is so small it goes right through the fiber we know this was not an accidentally made virus and was made in a lab

However the virus itself is not the issue it's how it is being used, think about it what better opportunity to implant the mark with fear an safety? What better way to take down the original way the united states was built with the constitution founded on Godly princibles? What better way to make the economy derail in order to create mass chaos and fear to create a ( better system) a one world order one world religion one world currency? This virus is effecting the entire world eventually it is going to make things so bad that it will unite the world leaders and the system will be officially intact

I mean look at how this virus has already created mass panic and division this is only the start we haven't even begun to see how badly things are going to unfold
 
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You know we can talk about collective data credible resources statistics ect. but the problem is that a lot of information has been compromised google twitter and apple are all banding together to silence anything opposing the democrates we literally could have our freedom of speech taken away
Now what we do know about this virus is that yes it is real and it is dangerous however it also is very much like the flu in a lot of ways it is most deadly to the elderly and those like me with damaged immune system diebetes smokers all of which I am we also know that isolated people has the opposite effect that we were first lead to believe we know that masks actually don't even help as the virus is so small it goes right through the fiber we know this was not an accidentally made virus and was made in a lab

However the virus itself is not the issue it's how it is being used, think about it what better opportunity to implant the mark with fear an safety? What better way to take down the original way the united states was built with the constitution founded on Godly princibles? What better way to make the economy derail in order to create mass chaos and fear to create a ( better system) a one world order one world religion one world currency? This virus is effecting the entire world eventually it is going to make things so bad that it will unite the world leaders and the system will be officially intact

I mean look at how this virus has already created mass panic and division this is only the start we haven't even begun to see how badly things are going to unfold
droplets floating in the air can go through the gaps around your mask. They can block over 86% from going through the fibers. That is not perfect but it is very helpful.

The vaccines have no implants nor is any one in the vaccine community talking about the need for any implants.

No one wants to track you. You're not that important. LOL. Plus your phone is already tracking you. Look up your Google Map timeline under your Google account.
 

Blain

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droplets floating in the air can go through the gaps around your mask. They can block over 86% from going through the fibers. That is not perfect but it is very helpful.

The vaccines have no implants nor is any one in the vaccine community talking about the need for any implants.

No one wants to track you. You're not that important. LOL. Plus your phone is already tracking you. Look up your Google Map timeline under your Google account.
Actually the virus is much smaller than normal viruses so no it doesn't have an 86% protection

As for the implants yes it is very possible that the vaccines don't have them at least not yet but make no mistake they will be and even if they say it doesn't have an implant of any kind do you really think if they intended to put into place the system of the beast they would have that information online for us to research? Especially with googles standing with twitter and apple?

But as I said my decision for not taking it is based on what my heart tells me yes the whole conspiracy of the vaccine does have a factor but I am one who relies on logic and evidence when it comes to conspiracy and interestingly enough a lot of what was called conspiracy was found to be true so of course if this is true or not it is going to be called conspiracy
 

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This is probably an important part to notice from the article:

Public health officials and infectious disease experts have said there is a high likelihood that Covid-19 will become an endemic disease, meaning it will be present at all times, though likely at lower levels than it is now.

So their saying that covid 19 will be amongst us like other viruses are but the current conditions we are living in won't necessarily be forever?
 
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Actually the virus is much smaller than normal viruses so no it doesn't have an 86% protection

As for the implants yes it is very possible that the vaccines don't have them at least not yet but make no mistake they will be and even if they say it doesn't have an implant of any kind do you really think if they intended to put into place the system of the beast they would have that information online for us to research? Especially with googles standing with twitter and apple?

But as I said my decision for not taking it is based on what my heart tells me yes the whole conspiracy of the vaccine does have a factor but I am one who relies on logic and evidence when it comes to conspiracy and interestingly enough a lot of what was called conspiracy was found to be true so of course if this is true or not it is going to be called conspiracy
The virus is tiny but does not float through the air on it's own. It is the droplet, or molecule that it is in that float and must pass through the fibers and these have been tested in labs for decades. We can observe their effectiveness. It is not a theory.

The fact that a mask is not 100 percent effective does not mean that it is not effective. I feel compelled to mention that 86% is worth wearing one if you have not yet been fully vaccinated.
 
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This is probably an important part to notice from the article:

Public health officials and infectious disease experts have said there is a high likelihood that Covid-19 will become an endemic disease, meaning it will be present at all times, though likely at lower levels than it is now.

So their saying that covid 19 will be amongst us like other viruses are but the current conditions we are living in won't necessarily be forever?
Yes that would be the most optimistic outcome and given all the lies and deception i would give that a 1% probability