Liberal news says Bomb Explodes at California Church Known for Hateful Views "Anti-LGBTQ Views"

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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/23/us/first-works-baptist-church-explosion.html


Literally, every liberal news outlet is reporting this Church has "Anti-LGBTQ hateful views".


The bombing of this baptist Church now justified because of what the liberal lying media is touting as Hateful views. The POTUS Joe Biden I wonder if he will condemn this? I have not heard anything from the Governor of CA. The Mayor said, " To take them out of our City".


Nothing of this multi-cultural Baptist Church suggests hating gays or those of the LGBTQ lifestyle or sexual preference. This is persecution.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/23/us/first-works-baptist-church-explosion.html


many "liberal Christians " who support homosexuality also have petitioned to have the church removed. The only reason why is because they dare to repeat what God says and where HE stands on sin.


I am shocked with what the media has said 81 million voted for the current POTUS, however, no one attends the passing of the Office. All the issues of out last POTUS were to go away, but Seattle, and Portland and other location ANTIFA is still rioting, why?

Because it is not about the last POTUS it is all about fascism. WE need to pray and those in CA must cry out against this attack on this church now! If not it will be the church you attend.
 
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Yes. There is already an attempt to brand Christianity as hate speech because it doesn't validate homosexuality. Also, I think they have made a new Bible to fit their ideology called the Queen James Version that removes condemnation of it. I have also seen people going around trying to muddy the waters about how the original manuscripts are translated into English to attempt to confuse people about homosexuality being a sin.

This comes down to a clash between religious liberties and secular civil rights, both of which are guaranteed by the US constitution. It is an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object. It's a sign of how tremendously divided the nation and it is irreconcilable.

James 4:4
4Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
 
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The end has began.
Best get into fellowship with the Savior today.
Time is running out.
 
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Runningman said:
Yes. There is already an attempt to brand Christianity as hate speech because it doesn't validate homosexuality. Also, I think they have made a new Bible to fit their ideology called the Queen James Version that removes condemnation of it. I have also seen people going around trying to muddy the waters about how the original manuscripts are translated into English to attempt to confuse people about homosexuality being a sin.

This comes down to a clash between religious liberties and secular civil rights, both of which are guaranteed by the US constitution. It is an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object. It's a sign of how tremendously divided the nation and it is irreconcilable.

James 4:4
4Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
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"..Queen James Version.." ? - that would be funny if it weren't so serious.
When read aloud from the pulpit i expect it will be done so with a verbal lisp...
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"..Queen James Version.." ? - that would be funny if it weren't so serious.
When read aloud from the pulpit i expect it will be done so with a verbal lisp...
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And a limp wrist? :unsure:
 
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The attack is horrendous but it sounds as if this so-called "church" IS hateful. Advocating sinners be murdered? How is that Christ-like?
 
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CS1 said:
Nothing of this multi-cultural Baptist Church suggests hating gays or those of the LGBTQ lifestyle or sexual preference. This is persecution.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/23/us/first-works-baptist-church-explosion.html
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At the conference, Mr. Mejia [pastor] called on the authorities to carry out a mass execution of L.G.B.T.Q. people, according to the center.

“We don’t advocate Christians to go out and be vigilantes,” and kill gay people, he said, according to the center. “We want the government to do it.”

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Asking for the murder of sinners isn't hateful?? Article also says he prayed for Obama to die. Guess this pastor ignores the fact that we are supposed to pray for those in authority over us:

1 Timothy 2:1-2 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
 
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The attack is horrendous but it sounds as if this so-called "church" IS hateful. Advocating sinners be murdered? How is that Christ-like?
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I agree saying such things is wrong, Their web sites don't have anything to that effect. If you find it please let me know because I don't trust the liberal media to be fair in covering this Baptist church.
 
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I am shocked with what the media has said 81 million voted for the current POTUS, however, no one attends the passing of the Office.
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Well there is an entire battalion of troops there along with several thousand state troopers.

Pelosi wanted machine guns in case any civilians showed up...

But as it is...the simple truth is that if those who voted for you can't be bothered to get off the couch to vote for you then they probably aren't going to travel to see you inaugurated either.
 
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At the conference, Mr. Mejia [pastor] called on the authorities to carry out a mass execution of L.G.B.T.Q. people, according to the center.

“We don’t advocate Christians to go out and be vigilantes,” and kill gay people, he said, according to the center. “We want the government to do it.”

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Asking for the murder of sinners isn't hateful?? Article also says he prayed for Obama to die. Guess this pastor ignores the fact that we are supposed to pray for those in authority over us:

1 Timothy 2:1-2 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
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Falls under free speech. Iranian leader on Twitter calling for the destruction of Israel. Are they right, no. Do they have the right to say it? Yes, they do. No right to shut down their church. I don't like if, and I say if, they teach that. But Westboro still stands today and I don't agree with them either. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion.
 
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Falls under free speech. Iranian leader on Twitter calling for the destruction of Israel. Are they right, no. Do they have the right to say it? Yes, they do. No right to shut down their church. I don't like if, and I say if, they teach that. But Westboro still stands today and I don't agree with them either. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion.
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But Twitter is no longer a platform...they are a publisher and fully responsible for their actions or inactions.

They don't allow free speech. No publisher does... platforms do.

That's the distinction.
 
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Genipher said:
At the conference, Mr. Mejia [pastor] called on the authorities to carry out a mass execution of L.G.B.T.Q. people, according to the center.

“We don’t advocate Christians to go out and be vigilantes,” and kill gay people, he said, according to the center. “We want the government to do it.”

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Asking for the murder of sinners isn't hateful?? Article also says he prayed for Obama to die. Guess this pastor ignores the fact that we are supposed to pray for those in authority over us:

1 Timothy 2:1-2 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
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Do you have any proof for these accusations from outside the liberal media?
 
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I agree saying such things is wrong, Their web sites don't have anything to that effect. If you find it please let me know because I don't trust the liberal media to be fair in covering this Baptist church.
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Talked to my husband about this last night. We looked up the church online and, yes, we would need to listen to the sermons to see if the quotes are true. My husband has said the quotes could have been taken out of context. As it stands, I see no proof of them being a hateful church.
 
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But Twitter is no longer a platform...they are a publisher and fully responsible for their actions or inactions.

They don't allow free speech. No publisher does... platforms do.

That's the distinction.
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LOL, If they are a publisher then they are under the context of doing so to sell and prepared books journals, music, or other works for sale. Here is why what you are saying is false.

Twitter, a social networking site launched in 2006, is undoubtedly one of the most popular social media platforms available today, with 100 million daily active users and 500 million tweets sent daily.

Twitter is a 'microblogging' system that allows you to send and receive short posts called tweets. Tweets can be up to 140 characters long and can include links to relevant websites and resources.

When you have the term Social you are not the same as a "publisher" In fact because of Section 230 Twitter and FB do not have to adhere to what CNN and other news outlets do. I can do the same thing I did before on Twitter they are not publishers no more than I am Doctor.
 
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Talked to my husband about this last night. We looked up the church online and, yes, we would need to listen to the sermons to see if the quotes are true. My husband has said the quotes could have been taken out of context. As it stands, I see no proof of them being a hateful church.
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It may not be overt, but this is what they have as one of their statement of beliefs, seems to me they are singling out one particular sin.

SODOMY
We believe that homosexuality is a sin and an abomination which God punishes with the death penalty. (Leviticus 20:13)

https://www.fwbcla.org/about
 
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It may not be overt, but this is what they have as one of their statement of beliefs, seems to me they are singling out one particular sin.

SODOMY
We believe that homosexuality is a sin and an abomination which God punishes with the death penalty. (Leviticus 20:13)

https://www.fwbcla.org/about
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that's called biblical and they have the context of it correct how is that hate? (Leviticus 20:13)
 
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that's called biblical and they have the context of it correct how is that hate? (Leviticus 20:13)
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They can preach that in the confines of the church, do they preach all of the Leviticus commands?

Deuteronomy 21:18-21

“If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
 
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They can preach that in the confines of the church, do they preach all of the Leviticus commands?

Deuteronomy 21:18-21

“If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
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I don't know if they do or not the fact is even if they did not the context of LEV is there. I'm sure those who would hear this same church say the same about drunkness would not be looking to blow it up unlike the extreme of those with this sexual preference.
 
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