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Coronavirus is nothing to fear.
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KT88
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Not relevant. Paul was living under threats to his life, beating and many hardships.
But you are not in a position to judge the either the truth or fallacy of that.
If you don't have free will, how is it you are managing to disagree so strongly with others who are advising you
that you do have free will?
This's probably how you pee
,maybe you feeling is not 'free' When you want to pee 
You can choose to pee anywhere,Bed, office,pants, toilet, outdoors, in glass.
You can't choose to pee until Bladder explosion.
Maybe you wet your bed when you sleeping.as such is not "free".
Just kidding...no offense
I think there are some religious denominations like Calvinism that have the same argument on free will
The argument is that free will and an omniscient God are paradoxical
Harris cites an experiment in which test objects were asked to pick between two images on a computer screen
By monitoring brain activity, the testers were able to accurately predict which images the test subjects would pick
This happens because our brains form thoughts seconds before we are even consciously aware it
Imagine you told me to perform action X or you're going to punch me in the face
I still have the choice whether or not I want to perform the accident question but I can't make myself want to be punched in the face
The argument is that free will and an omniscient God are paradoxical
Harris cites an experiment in which test objects were asked to pick between two images on a computer screen
By monitoring brain activity, the testers were able to accurately predict which images the test subjects would pick
This happens because our brains form thoughts seconds before we are even consciously aware it
Imagine you told me to perform action X or you're going to punch me in the face
I still have the choice whether or not I want to perform the accident question but I can't make myself want to be punched in the face
If you think that's how you pee
you can choose to pee anywhere,Bed, office,pants, toilet, outdoors, in glass.
you can choose not to pee until Bladder explosion.
Maybe you wet your bed when you sleeping.as such is not "free".
Just kidding...no offense
Hello Soberxp!
I didn't know you were from China.
If I knew any Chinese I would say hello in your language. Is it Mandarin?
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kaylagrl
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If you didn't break the law, there wouldn't be a sentence. There are two choices, follow Him or don't. YOU choose.You already know the sentence is death. God said He is no respecter of persons. The choice always was and remains yours.
ThanksHello Soberxp!
I didn't know you were from China.
If I knew any Chinese I would say hello in your language. Is it Mandarin?
'Ni Hao' Lucy-Pevensie.
Yes,I speak Mandarin.I was bron in Shanghai,but I live in Xi'an, sounds as Zion in English pronunciation.
Proverbs 22:3 A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.
Let's assume the justice system is infallible. Let's assume it catches criminals and tries them justly with significant evidence. Let us also assume the law is completely static.
It is still the Judge who will pass the sentence, not you. Even if you turned yourself in to the authorities, you cannot sentence yourself. Only the Judge can do that.
The Most High is our Judge.
Ok
Exactly... Imagine dying of covid-19 then when you see God he's like ...duh....what part of social distancing did you not understand?
Okay,
You are winner,
You are the champion.
You are all right.
You are The truth.
You are The path.
You are higher,we can not touch.
You can ask and answer by yourself.
You are fashion.
You are flash,
You are light.
You are honest.
You are The hope.
You are The hope of all mankind.
The trophy is awarded.
You are winner,
You are the champion.
You are all right.
You are The truth.
You are The path.
You are higher,we can not touch.
You can ask and answer by yourself.
You are fashion.
You are flash,
You are light.
You are honest.
You are The hope.
You are The hope of all mankind.
The trophy is awarded.
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kaylagrl
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That is not what is in question. We know the judge passes the sentence, we know who the judge is, we know the outcome of the sentence and where each person will go. None of that is in question. What you are saying is you have no choice in your future. You and I stand before the judge lets say. We both committed the exact same crime in the exact same manner. Our crimes were identical, there is nothing that would sway a judge one way or the other. The judge turns to you and says " you're free to go", but turns to me and says "guilty!!" and I am chained and put in prison. So the judge made an arbitrary decision. That is not a picture of God, nothing in Scripture teaches what you are saying.
Definitely relevant for spiritual matters. Explain to me why isn't it relevant. Are we not all called to go forth and make disciples yet look forward to the day we see Jesus at the same time?
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KT88
Guest
I don't think it's has any relevance to covid and "If you catch it and die, you will be with God."
It is arguably our choice whether we accept Jesus as our saviour or not.
It is not our choice where we go. Only God decides that.
Let me add context.
Philippians 1:21-24
New International Version
21 For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. 22 If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me. Yet what shall I choose? I do not know! 23 I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far; 24 but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body.
Dying comes to all eventually in many different ways. But Paul says to die is gain and he even desired to depart and be with Christ. BUT it was necessary for him to stay until God's will had been completed for his life.
So if we died of Covid, then we are with Christ. But it is God's will we are to do His Word which includes going forth to make disciples. So we should treat it in a logical and reasonable matter but by no way live in fear. If God wants us to live, he will sustain us. If God is ready to call us home, then he will call us home.
God already decided before time. By those who respond in faith to either the Messiah to come of the Old Testament or the Jesus the Messiah of the New Testament. It is by grace through faith that we are saved. So technically you have a choice of where you go. Deny Jesus and you go to Hell. Believe and submit to Jesus and you will go to Heaven. The choice is between life or death.
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kaylagrl
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No, it is not! Scripture does not teach that. The Bible tells us "choose you this day" and that we have a choice between life and death. Then the verse says "choose life". You make God out to be a liar, unjust and cruel. We have a choice. What you are saying is utterly false and been proven with Scripture. You can believe whatever you wish, but you aren't believing the Word. You have a choice. You repeating the line doesn't make it true. Just so new Christians here are clear, what this person is saying is false.