My opinion as to why the UK (and other countries) are being locked down against the interests of the citizens

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My apologies if this post is not considered relevant.

Ultimately, it is in the interests of a government to increase GDP. In effect, GDP is the amount of money being spent by the population of the country.

Why is the government pro immigration? The more immigrants (particularly from more 'r selected' cultures whom will produce more children) there are, the higher the population will be. The higher the population, the more money being spent. The more money being spent, the higher the GDP. The higher the GDP, the more money individuals in governments will make.

Immigrants require money to live on. There are two avenues by which immigrants will receive money. One is by having a job. This will make the job market more competitive, and reduce quality of life for all workers. The second is via government assistance (welfare, benefits). The growth of the welfare state encourages government dependence. It also assures money is constantly being spent (increasing GDP).

Being a home owner will not increase GDP. It will increase an individuals net worth, but as they will most likely be saving money to afford the home, they will not be spending money regularly as one might with rent or a mortgage. As such whilst it is in the interests of an individual to own a home, it is not in the interests of the government. I also refer you to inheritance tax, in which the government is taxing any individuals who wish for their children (or others) to inherit their home. I am making this point to evidence my belief that the government does not care about the quality of life of the individual citizen.

The government would prefer its citizens be dependent. Thus they are forcibly closing small businesses.

Small businesses are a threat to government dependence. They also do not assure the government the same amount of money circulated as a big company. The governments would rather have several large businesses monopolise the market . Your local pub or gym has stricter hygiene and distancing measures in place than the local factory for a large business, yet whilst the pub or gym will be closed, the factory will remain open as before. The rich will get richer, the poor will get poorer. GDP will increase, and quality of life will fall.
 

Lisamn

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I thought the British were being locked down because of Brexit, honestly. Made the politician’s mad to get out of the EU...and it made the EU mad too.

The immigrants/muslims in the Western European nations were an invading force...it was only men who came in. They’re like antifa only worse.
 
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I thought the British were being locked down because of Brexit, honestly. Made the politician’s mad to get out of the EU...and it made the EU mad too.

The immigrants/muslims in the Western European nations were an invading force...it was only men who came in. They’re like antifa only worse.
I can't especially comment as to how Brexit factors in.

Half a million girls were systematically groomed (raped; many also tortured and murdered) by Muslim gangs.
 

Lisamn

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I can't especially comment as to how Brexit factors in.

Half a million girls were systematically groomed (raped; many also tortured and murdered) by Muslim gangs.
Ok

Half a million girls were..do you have a link to that. I know that many were for many years..40 years in Rotherham....but I didn’t think it was as high as half a million.
 
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Ok

Half a million girls were..do you have a link to that. I know that many were for many years..40 years in Rotherham....but I didn’t think it was as high as half a million.
You don't think it's a serious issue?
 
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I didn’t say it’s not a serious issue..I just hadn’t heard it was in the millions.
It isn't (to my knowledge). It's in the hundreds of thousands.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Ok

Half a million girls were..do you have a link to that. I know that many were for many years..40 years in Rotherham....but I didn’t think it was as high as half a million.
I can provide sources of information if you want them.
Mainstream news sources helped to cover up the scale of the scandal for decades so lack of easily searchable corroborative links is to be expected.

My home town, Rochdale, Lancashire has been greatly effected by the ongoing rape Jihad.
The term is down-graded in media (grooming gangs) to deliberately hide the source of the problem.
Other areas affected include Rotherham (you mentioned) Telford, Oxford, Banbury, Peterborough, Aylesbury, Bristol, Halifax, Keighley, Newcastle & Huddersfield.

This gruesome subject deserves a thread of it's own but most here aren't interested in anything happening outside the USA.
Threads about other countries usually sink like a stone.
 
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I can provide sources of information if you want them.
Mainstream news sources helped to cover up the scale of the scandal for decades so lack of easily searchable corroborative links is to be expected.

My home town, Rochdale, Lancashire has been greatly effected by the ongoing rape Jihad.
The term is down-graded in media (grooming gangs) to deliberately hide the source of the problem.
Other areas affected include Rotherham (you mentioned) Telford, Oxford, Banbury, Peterborough, Aylesbury, Bristol, Halifax, Keighley, Newcastle & Huddersfield.

This gruesome subject deserves a thread of it's own but most here aren't interested in anything happening outside the USA.
Threads about other countries usually sink like a stone.
I am interested!! This is happening in the UK? My land!!
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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I am interested!! This is happening in the UK? My land!!
Afraid so Kayla.
We left ourselves open to attack by first, over-indulging secularism & a Socialist form of government then by accepting anything foreign, however evil as if it was more favourable than our own. Including our God who they've side lined completely in the public sector. One daren't question the new orthodox "diversity" culture that permeates everything.

This is what happened. Many of those in authority, police, care workers & local councils were reluctant to come forward even when parents complained. Fearful of being branded "racist" and having their careers destroyed. And that was only the lower levels of authority. This shame goes right to the top.

To be fair UK Sikh community leaders tried to blow the whistle on the rape gangs years ago.
Sikh girls were being targeted as well as English. They were also largely ignored.
If I continue I'll be hijacking the thread. It wasn't about this problem specifically.
It's very difficult not to be angry about it though. I see my country as permanently scarred in this generation.
Unless we find a willingness to put a stop to it God will judge us.
 
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I can provide sources of information if you want them.
Mainstream news sources helped to cover up the scale of the scandal for decades so lack of easily searchable corroborative links is to be expected.

My home town, Rochdale, Lancashire has been greatly effected by the ongoing rape Jihad.
The term is down-graded in media (grooming gangs) to deliberately hide the source of the problem.
Other areas affected include Rotherham (you mentioned) Telford, Oxford, Banbury, Peterborough, Aylesbury, Bristol, Halifax, Keighley, Newcastle & Huddersfield.

This gruesome subject deserves a thread of it's own but most here aren't interested in anything happening outside the USA.
Threads about other countries usually sink like a stone.
I didn't realise you were from Rochdale. I myself live in Newcastle. I can't imagine the suffering of these young girls. It adds insult to injury when even so much as mentioning it has you branded a 'racist'.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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I didn't realise you were from Rochdale. I myself live in Newcastle. I can't imagine the suffering of these young girls. It adds insult to injury when even so much as mentioning it has you branded a 'racist'.
Hiya Geordie Girl


I live down south now but still have some family up there.
 
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kaylagrl

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Afraid so Kayla.
We left ourselves open to attack by first, over-indulging secularism & a Socialist form of government then by accepting anything foreign, however evil as if it was more favourable than our own. Including our God who they've side lined completely in the public sector. One daren't question the new orthodox "diversity" culture that permeates everything.

This is what happened. Many of those in authority, police, care workers & local councils were reluctant to come forward even when parents complained. Fearful of being branded "racist" and having their careers destroyed. And that was only the lower levels of authority. This shame goes right to the top.

To be fair UK Sikh community leaders tried to blow the whistle on the rape gangs years ago.
Sikh girls were being targeted as well as English. They were also largely ignored.
If I continue I'll be hijacking the thread. It wasn't about this problem specifically.
It's very difficult not to be angry about it though. I see my country as permanently scarred in this generation.
Unless we find a willingness to put a stop to it God will judge us.


And yet the heedless Americans go head long into the same fate. Some of us see it and are battling as much as we can to stop it. But with president Trump having the election stolen we are now left open to the whims of the radical left. And they are running breakneck speed toward communism. May God be with us. 2021 is not going to be a better year in many ways.
 

Lisamn

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I can provide sources of information if you want them.
Mainstream news sources helped to cover up the scale of the scandal for decades so lack of easily searchable corroborative links is to be expected.

My home town, Rochdale, Lancashire has been greatly effected by the ongoing rape Jihad.
The term is down-graded in media (grooming gangs) to deliberately hide the source of the problem.
Other areas affected include Rotherham (you mentioned) Telford, Oxford, Banbury, Peterborough, Aylesbury, Bristol, Halifax, Keighley, Newcastle & Huddersfield.

This gruesome subject deserves a thread of it's own but most here aren't interested in anything happening outside the USA.
Threads about other countries usually sink like a stone.
I know about the rape gangs in Britain..I’ve read about them and followed Tommy Robinson.

I just hadn’t heard that there were girls in the millions.

I’m interested in things happening outside the US...probably why I know about the rape gangs and Tommy Robinson.
 
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I know about the rape gangs in Britain..I’ve read about them and followed Tommy Robinson.

I just hadn’t heard that there were girls in the millions.

I’m interested in things happening outside the US...probably why I know about the rape gangs and Tommy Robinson.
It's not in the millions. It's in the hundreds of thousands.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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This is easily cleared up.
Vicky said "half a million" as a rough guesstimate.
1/2 of 1 Million = 500,000.

500, 000 is hundreds of thousands.