Proving the thousand years of Revelation 20 is exactly 1000 years.

ewq1938 · Feb 5, 2021

The following scriptures are from the Esword bible program, specifically the KJV+ which gives the Strong's numbers for every word side by side with the English words. It might look confusing but it is important to show the English/Greek words and how they are used in scripture.

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The Greek word chilias "thousand" G5505 is only used in scripture when there is multiples of thousands of something:

Luk_14:31 OrG2228 whatG5101 king,G935 goingG4198 to make warG4820 G1519 G4171 against anotherG2087 king,G935 sitteth not downG2523 G3780 first,G4412 andG2532 consultethG1011 whetherG1487 he beG2076 ableG1415 withG1722 tenG1176 thousandG5505 to meetG528 him that comethG2064 againstG1909 himG846 withG3326 twentyG1501 thousand?G5505

Act_4:4 HowbeitG1161 manyG4183 of them which heardG191 theG3588 wordG3056 believed;G4100 andG2532 theG3588 numberG706 of theG3588 menG435 wasG1096 aboutG5616 fiveG4002 thousand.G5505

1Co_10:8 NeitherG3366 let us commit fornication,G4203 asG2531 someG5100 of themG846 committed,G4203 andG2532 fellG4098 inG1722 oneG3391 dayG2250 three and twenty thousand.G5140 G1501 G5505

Rev_5:11 AndG2532 I beheld,G1492 andG2532 I heardG191 the voiceG5456 of manyG4183 angelsG32 round aboutG2943 theG3588 throneG2362 andG2532 theG3588 beastsG2226 andG2532 theG3588 elders:G4245 andG2532 theG3588 numberG706 of themG846 wasG2258 ten thousand times ten thousand,G3461 G3461 andG2532 thousands of thousands;G5505 G5505

Rev_7:4 AndG2532 I heardG191 theG3588 numberG706 of them which were sealed:G4972 and there were sealedG4972 an hundred and forty and four thousandG1540 G5062 G5064 G5505 ofG1537 allG3956 the tribesG5443 of the childrenG5207 of Israel.G2474
Rev_7:5 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of JudaG2455 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of ReubenG4502 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of GadG1045 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505
Rev_7:6 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of AserG768 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of NepthalimG3508 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of ManassesG3128 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505
Rev_7:7 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of SimeonG4826 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of LeviG3017 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of IssacharG2466 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505
Rev_7:8 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of ZabulonG2194 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of JosephG2501 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505 OfG1537 the tribeG5443 of BenjaminG958 were sealedG4972 twelveG1427 thousand.G5505

Rev_11:13 AndG2532 the sameG1565 hourG5610 wasG1096 there a greatG3173 earthquake,G4578 andG2532 theG3588 tenth partG1182 of theG3588 cityG4172 fell,G4098 andG2532 inG1722 theG3588 earthquakeG4578 were slainG615 of(G3686) menG444 sevenG2033 thousand:G5505 andG2532 theG3588 remnantG3062 wereG1096 affrighted,G1719 andG2532 gaveG1325 gloryG1391 to theG3588 GodG2316 of heaven.G3772

Rev_14:1 AndG2532 I looked,G1492 and,G2532 lo,G2400 a LambG721 stoodG2476 onG1909 theG3588 mountG3735 Sion,G4622 andG2532 withG3326 himG846 an hundred forty and four thousand,G1540 G5062 G5064 G5505 havingG2192 hisG848 Father'sG3962 nameG3686 writtenG1125 inG1909 theirG848 foreheads.G3359

Rev_14:3 AndG2532 they sungG103 as it wereG5613 a newG2537 songG5603 beforeG1799 theG3588 throne,G2362 andG2532 beforeG1799 theG3588 fourG5064 beasts,G2226 andG2532 theG3588 elders:G4245 andG2532 no manG3762 couldG1410 learnG3129 that songG5603 butG1508 theG3588 hundred and forty and four thousand,G1540 G5062 G5064 G5505 which were redeemedG59 fromG575 theG3588 earth.G1093

Rev_21:16 AndG2532 theG3588 cityG4172 liethG2749 foursquare,G5068 andG2532 theG3588 lengthG3372 (G848) isG2076 as largeG5118 asG3745 theG3588 breadth:G4114 andG2532 he measuredG3354 theG3588 cityG4172 with theG3588 reed,G2563 twelveG1427 thousandG5505 (G1909) furlongs.G4712 TheG3588 lengthG3372 andG2532 theG3588 breadthG4114 andG2532 theG3588 heightG5311 of itG846 areG2076 equal.G2470

ewq1938 · Feb 5, 2021

Yet when the number is only one single thousand of something or one thousand plus another number that's less than two thousand, the Greek word chilioi G5507 is used:

2Pe_3:8 But,G1161 beloved,G27 be not ignorantG2990 G3361 of thisG5124 one thing,G1520 thatG3754 oneG3391 dayG2250 is withG3844 the LordG2962 asG5613 a thousandG5507 years,G2094 andG2532 a thousandG5507 yearsG2094 asG5613 oneG3391 day.G2250

Rev_11:3 AndG2532 I will giveG1325 power unto myG3450 twoG1417 witnesses,G3144 andG2532 they shall prophesyG4395 a thousand two hundred and threescoreG5507 G1250 G1835 days,G2250 clothedG4016 in sackcloth.G4526

Rev_12:6 AndG2532 theG3588 womanG1135 fledG5343 intoG1519 theG3588 wilderness,G2048 whereG3699 she hathG2192 a placeG5117 preparedG2090 ofG575 God,G2316 thatG2443 they should feedG5142 herG846 thereG1563 a thousand two hundred and threescoreG5507 G1250 G1835 days.G2250

Rev_14:20 AndG2532 theG3588 winepressG3025 was troddenG3961 withoutG1854 theG3588 city,G4172 andG2532 bloodG129 cameG1831 out ofG1537 theG3588 winepress,G3025 even untoG891 theG3588 horseG2462 bridles,G5469 by the space ofG575 a thousand and six hundredG5507 G1812 furlongs.G4712

Rev_20:2 AndG2532 he laid hold onG2902 theG3588 dragon,G1404 that oldG744 serpent,G3789 whichG3739 isG2076 the Devil,G1228 andG2532 Satan,G4567 andG2532 boundG1210 himG846 a thousandG5507 years,G2094

Rev_20:3 AndG2532 castG906 himG846 intoG1519 theG3588 bottomless pit,G12 andG2532 shut him up,G2808 G846 andG2532 set a sealG4972 uponG1883 him,G846 thatG2443 he should deceiveG4105 theG3588 nationsG1484 noG3361 more,G2089 tillG891 theG3588 thousandG5507 yearsG2094 should be fulfilled:G5055 andG2532 afterG3326 thatG5023 heG846 mustG1163 be loosedG3089 a littleG3398 season.G5550

Rev_20:4 AndG2532 I sawG1492 thrones,G2362 andG2532 they satG2523 uponG1909 them,G846 andG2532 judgmentG2917 was givenG1325 unto them:G846 andG2532 I saw theG3588 soulsG5590 of them that were beheadedG3990 forG1223 theG3588 witnessG3141 of Jesus,G2424 andG2532 forG1223 theG3588 wordG3056 of God,G2316 andG2532 whichG3748 had notG3756 worshippedG4352 theG3588 beast,G2342 neitherG3777 hisG846 image,G1504 neitherG2532 G3756 had receivedG2983 his markG5480 uponG1909 theirG848 foreheads,G3359 orG2532 inG1909 theirG848 hands;G5495 andG2532 they livedG2198 andG2532 reignedG936 withG3326 ChristG5547 a thousandG5507 years.G2094

Rev_20:5 ButG1161 theG3588 restG3062 of theG3588 deadG3498 lived not againG326 G3756 untilG2193 theG3588 thousandG5507 yearsG2094 were finished.G5055 ThisG3778 is theG3588 firstG4413 resurrection.G386

Rev_20:6 BlessedG3107 andG2532 holyG40 is he that hathG2192 partG3313 inG1722 theG3588 firstG4413 resurrection:G386 onG1909 suchG5130 theG3588 secondG1208 deathG2288 hathG2192 noG3756 power,G1849 butG235 they shall beG2071 priestsG2409 of GodG2316 andG2532 of Christ,G5547 andG2532 shall reignG936 withG3326 himG846 a thousandG5507 years.G2094

Rev_20:7 AndG2532 whenG3752 theG3588 thousandG5507 yearsG2094 are expired,G5055 SatanG4567 shall be loosedG3089 out ofG1537 hisG846 prison,G5438

Mar 5:13 AndG2532 forthwithG2112 JesusG2424 gave them leave.G2010 G846 AndG2532 theG3588 uncleanG169 spiritsG4151 went out,G1831 andG2532 enteredG1525 intoG1519 theG3588 swine:G5519 andG2532 theG3588 herdG34 ran violentlyG3729 downG2596 a steep placeG2911 intoG1519 theG3588 sea,G2281 (they(G1161) wereG2258 aboutG5613 two thousand; )G1367 andG2532 were chokedG4155 inG1722 theG3588 sea.G2281

Here we have a Greek word G1367 dischilioi. "Dis" means two or twice and chilioi (G5507) means a thousand so this word means two thousand. Naturally then if there was one chilioi (G5507) it would be exactly a thousand just as it is in every occurrence of the word in the NT.

This is indisputable evidence that the thousand years is exactly a thousand years.

Rev_11:3 AndG2532 I will giveG1325 power unto myG3450 twoG1417 witnesses,G3144 andG2532 they shall prophesyG4395 a thousand two hundred and threescoreG5507 G1250 G1835 days,G2250 clothedG4016 in sackcloth.G4526

G5507 always means exactly one thousand like it does here. To mean more it needs to have more added to it. Here we have G5507 as exactly one thousand and then 260 added to that one thousand. Guess what? If we removed the 260 we have how many? Exactly one thousand, G5507.

So when we have G5507 alone, it is exactly one thousand. And when scripture speaks of "thousands" in the plural it uses chilias G5505 not G5507.

Rev_5:11 AndG2532 I beheld,G1492 andG2532 I heardG191 the voiceG5456 of manyG4183 angelsG32 round aboutG2943 theG3588 throneG2362 andG2532 theG3588 beastsG2226 andG2532 theG3588 elders:G4245 andG2532 theG3588 numberG706 of themG846 wasG2258 ten thousand times ten thousand,G3461 G3461 andG2532 thousands of thousands;G5505 G5505

If Revelation 20's thousand years was thousands of years like Amillennialism claims, the word needed would be chilias G5505 especially the double appearance of the word as found in Revelation 5:11, "thousands of thousands" which is truly an unknown amount. G5507 strictly means only one thousand and no more. It cannot mean 1001, nor an unknown number of thousands or millions etc.

I'll use an example to further explain the difference of the two words.

G5505 is like a thousand dollar bill. There is just one in your hand but it's worth a thousand dollars and the word is written in the singular because of this.

G5507 is like having one thousand dollar bills. That's worth the same exact amount, but it's a plural word because there is a thousand singles of something rather than one thing that equals a thousand. Imagine in your left hand a thousand dollar bill, and in your right hand a thousand one dollar bills. Same amount but the way each amount is represented is different.

5507 is plural in this sense, not that it means more than a thousand or multiples of thousands like 2000. That is not what the plural aspect means but that is how Amillennialism wrongly misdefines it.

Truth7t7 · Feb 5, 2021

ewq1938 said:

Perhaps you can help me find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist), A 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Is A Man Made Fairy Tale (Fact)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ?

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time (Fact)

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

ewq1938 · Feb 5, 2021

Reported this for spamming the same copy and paste stuff in every thread. This is not true conversation.

Truth7t7 said:

Perhaps you can help me find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist), A 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Is A Man Made Fairy Tale (Fact)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ?

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time (Fact)

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Truth7t7 · Feb 6, 2021

ewq1938 said:

You Want My Posting To Go Away, Because It Exposes The Truth, Against Error.

There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Earth By Fire, (Fact)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords Spiritual Realm Of No Time

There Is No Earthly Kingdom, Earthly Throne, Or Mortal Humans Seen (Fact)

ewq1938 · Feb 6, 2021

Truth7t7 said:

No, you just spam every thread with nonsense so you can avoid what was posted.

GaryA · Feb 6, 2021

Truth7t7 said:

Do you realize that this makes no sense at all?

If there is 'No Time' in the 'spiritual' realm, then - "by definition" - any association with time whatsoever in a passage of scripture places its context into the 'physical' realm.

"Think about it..."

TMS · Feb 6, 2021

Truth7t7 said:

I agree with the first statement (not on this Earth) but the next two is very not proven in scripture.
The saved will be with Jesus for 1000 years in His kingdom where His throne is located. why do you say it is a spiritual realm? that is new age spiritualism. If we are just spirits why did Jesus go to prepare homes for us?

TMS · Feb 6, 2021

“This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection” (Revelation 20:5, 6).

It doesn't take much to see from the bible texts that the first resurrection is for the saved and the 1000 years start. The second resurrection is for the unsaved and happens at the end of the 1000 years. Rev 20:4,5,6

“The rest of the dead [those who were not saved] did not live again until the thousand years were finished” (Revelation 20:5).
“All who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation” (John 5:28, 29).

There are only 2 resurrections, the saved and the unsaved. So all the saved will be with Jesus for 1000 years.

Blackpowderduelist · Feb 6, 2021

TMS said:

Of you count new age from the reformation.
Martin Luther was what we call a-millinial. That the thousand year reign of Christ is what we know as the church age, and the thousand years is an idiom, which simply means a very long time.

TMS · Feb 6, 2021

“Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him” (Revelation 1:7).
“The Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout. ... And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air” (1 Thessalonians 4:16, 17).

Nothing is said about an earthly kingdom here....
“Let the wicked perish at the presence of God” (Psalm 68:2).
“The rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished” (Revelation 20:5)

“The slain of the Lord shall be from one end of the earth even to the other end of the earth. They shall not be lamented, or gathered, or buried; they shall become refuse on the ground” (Jeremiah 25:33).
It will be impossible for any person to repent during the 1,000 years because there will not be a person alive on the earth. The righteous will all be in heaven. All the wicked will be laying dead upon the earth. Revelation 22:11, 12 makes it clear that the case of every person is closed before Jesus returns. Those who wait to accept Christ until the 1,000 years begin will have waited too long.

A devastating earthquake and hailstorm (Revelation 16:18–21)
The second coming of Jesus for His saints (Matthew 24:30, 31)
The saved dead raised to life (1 Thessalonians 4:16)
The saved given immortality (1 Corinthians 15:51–55)
The saved given bodies like Jesus (1 John 3:2; Philippians 3:20, 21)
All the righteous caught up into the clouds (1 Thessalonians 4:17)
The living wicked slain by the breath of the Lord’s mouth (Isaiah 11:4)
The unsaved dead remain in their graves until the end of the 1,000 years (Revelation 20:5)
Jesus takes the righteous to heaven (John 13:33, 36; 14:2, 3)
Satan bound (Revelation 20:1–3)

TMS · Feb 6, 2021

Blackpowderduelist said:

The 1000 years is a very long time. and i don't mind if it goes for a million years as long as i'm with Jesus. the time isn't really the issue the confusion is where it will be spent. No one can prove that it will be on the earth. put all Bible verses together and it must be in Heaven in the new Jerusalem with Jesus.

Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

TMS · Feb 6, 2021

Joh 13:33 Little children, yet a little while I am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the Jews, Whither I go, ye cannot come; so now I say to you.
Joh 13:36 Simon Peter said unto him, Lord, whither goest thou? Jesus answered him, Whither I go, thou canst not follow me now; but thou shalt follow me afterwards.

Joh 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Joh 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

.....thou canst not follow me now; but thou shalt follow me afterwards.
I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

When Jesus comes the saved will be taken to Heaven .....The First resurrection happens when He comes..... the 1000 years starts after the first resurrection...... the 1000 years is in Heaven (logical)

ewq1938 · Feb 6, 2021

Blackpowderduelist said:

In the Greek language, the word used for a "thousand" means exactly a thousand not a any longer. The thousand years in Revelation 20 is not the church age and is not longer than a thousand years.

Yahshua · Feb 6, 2021

Blackpowderduelist said:

Surely there's a precedent in scripture for this phrase meaning a very long time?

From what I've studied any time a specific measurement of days/years is mentioned in prophecy it meant specifically that measurement.
The whole point of prophecy is to prove that The Almighty is sovereign over human history (by telling us exactly what's supposed to happen and when). So there's no reason to give any specific timeframe if it's not meant to be adhered to.

TheDivineWatermark · Feb 6, 2021

Re: the promised and prophesied earthly Millennial Kingdom...

[quoting old post]

Jesus spoke of it [what we call the EARTHLY MK age] throughout His entire earthly ministry... every time that He spoke of:

--"the kingdom OF THE heavenS"

--"the age [SINGULAR] to come"

--"the wedding FEAST/SUPPER"

--the "G347 - 'shall sit down' [around a table/at a meal]"

--the TWO times He referred to "RETURN" [re: Himself],
Lk19:12,15,17,19 "RETURN," and
Lk12:36-37,38,40,42-44 [and their parallels], "when he will RETURN FROM the wedding..."
(i.e. as an ALREADY-WED Bridegroom), THEN the meal [G347]

--the times He told "the 12" they would "sit on 12 thrones, judgING the 12 tribes of Israel"

--when He referred to "in the regeneration when..." (that ^ reference [one of them])... "when the Son of man shall sit on the throne of His glory" [<--this being His EARTHLY "throne" upon His RETURN to the earth (there will be NO "goats" in Heaven, for example, Matt25:31-34 [parallel parts of Matt13:24,30,39,40,49-50])]

--ALL "Son of man cometh/coming/shall come/etc" references (referring to His RETURN to the earth; NOT "our Rapture") to "judge and to reign"

--a number of times when the "BLESSED" is made reference to (8-10 times total, including elsewhere in Scripture like Dan12:12 and Rev19:9, etc)

--"...the greatness of the kingdom UNDER the whole heaven" Daniel 7:27 (which follows the specific time-period referred to in v.25, parallel to other time-related passages speaking of the same 2nd half of the future trib yrs)... again, not referring to "UP IN Heaven" in this text

--many more references...

UP UNTIL the time that He spoke His Olivet Discourse (and INCLUDING IT), He had NOT YET spoken to them ANYTHING about anything else but [what we call] "the promised AND PROPHESIED *earthly* Millennial Kingdom".

[it is not until His later UPPER ROOM Discourse that He introduces the seed doctrines pertaining to "the Church which is His body"...]

[end quoting old post]

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Rev19:19,21 / 16:14-16 / 20:5 (at the time of His Second Coming to the earth / Armageddon time-slot)

parallels

the FIRST of TWO "PUNISH" words of Isaiah 24:21-22b[23]...

and then a TIME-PERIOD intervenes before...

...the SECOND of the TWO "PUNISH" words in the Isaiah passage is carried out (i.e. the later GWTj point in time)

...which corresponds also with what I just put in the top section, esp under the Daniel 7:27 entry, "the greatness of the kingdom UNDER the whole heaven..." (not "UP IN Heaven," per this context)... not to mention many other passages.

____________

Oh, and as I've mentioned in past posts... in every passage which uses the word "years" along with a number, it always MEANS "THAT MANY years"

TheDivineWatermark · Feb 6, 2021

TheDivineWatermark said:

I will say... that in the following passage, the time period actually factored out to "69 yrs, 1 day" (or something very close to that), based on "who [what king] was reigning when" (etc)...

Daniel 9 -
"2 in the first year of his reign, I, Daniel, understood from the sacred books, according to the word of the LORD to Jeremiah the prophet, that the desolation of Jerusalem would last seventy years.c "

...so I do believe this is one of the KEYS that future Israel (the believing remnant of Israel) will come to grasp when they find themselves in that time-period (see Dan12:4 "knowledge shall be increased"... 12:10 "...none of the wicked shall understand, but the WISE WILL understand" [speaking specifically of the WISE of ISRAEL, at that future specific time-period (FOLLOWING "our Rapture")--corresponding to some of the passages in the Olivet Discourse and its parallels... Recall, it will be during a time of GREAT DECEPTION])

Pilgrimshope · Feb 6, 2021

Truth7t7 said:

Perhaps you can help me find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist), A 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Is A Man Made Fairy Tale (Fact)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ?

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time (Fact)

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

amen

TMS · Feb 6, 2021

Once probation closes it is all over the saved are save and the lost are lost. As long as i'm with Jesus is all that really counts. The Earth needs to be cleansed in order to be made new.

Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven (sky, atmosphere) and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Rev 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Wall · Feb 6, 2021

TMS said:

Theres a problem with that statement

JOHN 3 [12] If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? [13] And NO MAN HATH ASCENDED UP TO HEAVEN, BUT HE THAT CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Proving the thousand years of Revelation 20 is exactly 1000 years.

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