Is the double slit experiment proof of original sin?

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pittsburghjoe

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The fallen angels were cast out of heaven ..they went here. The tree of knowledge was fallen. It was the gateway to this place.

Can age be defined as the history of being local, decoherent, physical, and fallen? Is age in relation to time spent in this fallen condition? Is fallen history fundamental to wave collapse and decoherence? Is evolution-history after original sin?
 
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Age is the history of being local, decoherent, physical, and fallen.

An age to being real to this fallen condition.
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But that only explains the Realm of where we exist, since sin is about our life and condition of life.
Now, had the [dust] of the Earth which God used to Create man been from Heaven, then we have Decoherence.
But the [dust] is from a separated Realm of Heaven, just like our Universe is separated from the realm where [Sin] originated.
Satan is the factor between both Realms, not Decoherence or Retrocasuality.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
The tree of knowledge was fallen. It was the gateway to this place.
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It is not the tree of knowledge, but the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Proper terminology matters.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
The fallen angels were cast out of heaven ..they went here. The tree of knowledge was fallen. It was the gateway to this place.

Can age be defined as the history of being local, decoherent, physical, and fallen? Is age in relation to time spent in this fallen condition? Is fallen history fundamental to wave collapse and decoherence? Is evolution-history after original sin?
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The Fallen Angels could not come here until here existed.
So, [Here] is a separate Realm from where the Fallen Angels are coming from.

The [Tree of Knowledge] is just an ordinary tree that God placed a stipulation on.

You are connecting dots that don't even exist here.
 
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There is nothing physical about angels. They were still here though.
The tree had to be fallen to allow the choice which grants free will. Satan was there because he can be anywhere that is fallen.
The knowledge of good and evil is being able to tell the difference between the two ..fallen or not. The tree would have looked normal to them.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
There is nothing physical about angels. They were still here though.
The tree had to be fallen to allow the choice which grants free will. Satan was there because he can be anywhere that is fallen.
The knowledge of good and evil is being able to tell the difference between the two ..fallen or not. The tree would have looked normal to them.
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So the world now in your view was fallen before Adam disobeyed?

Another of your contradictions and blatant departures from Scripture truth.

Also, you are saying A&E had no free will before choosing to disobey. More nonsense from you.
 
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KingdomBrat said:
The Fallen Angels could not come here until here existed.
So, [Here] is a separate Realm from where the Fallen Angels are coming from.

The [Tree of Knowledge] is just an ordinary tree that God placed a stipulation on.

You are connecting dots that don't even exist here.
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Satan and the Fallen Angels were in [SIN} before they came to Earth. That equals 2 separate realms. The Earth like Adam is PURE in original state of Creation. Even when Satan is bound to Earth with the other Fallen Angels, [the Earth is still sinless and pure].

The Earth sins when Adam sins, because Adam is Created from the Earth [separate Realm] from both Heaven and sin.

So there is NO HISTORY here of Decoherence taking place in this original perfect state.

You are interjecting your idealism where it's impossible to add any enlightenment.
 
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KingdomBrat said:
The Earth sins when Adam sins, because Adam is Created from the Earth [separate Realm] from both Heaven and sin.
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Creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it,
in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and
obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole
creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now.
 
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After Adam sins, yes, Decoherence exists, but not prior.

So, the HISTORY is the result of sin. You made it the cause.
But that is incorrect.
 
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What you guys are saying is that you don't want a scientific angle to attack the number one reason people don't believe ..evolution.
 
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What you guys are saying is that you don't want a scientific angle to attack the number one reason people don't believe ..evolution.
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Provide the correct and Proper Angle then i will oblige your attempt here. But in my plainest English, so far, your examples and proofs only Describe the EFFECT of what Adam's sin did. You are trying to make it the cause.

You are totally azz backwards here!
 
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The decoherence they ate turned themselves and everything else around them physical ..fallen. We now have death, decay, and entropy.
 
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Satan, the original SINNER, where SIN originated that we all deal with in our lives, would not even be a part of the evolutionary process. He is still separate from that. So your first error is Evolution and thinking sin was passed by evolution. You really are missing the obvious points here and pretty badly if I may add.
 
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The decoherence they ate turned themselves and everything else around them physical ..fallen. We now have death, decay, and entropy.
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But sin in their life began/originated at that moment. So the History is incorrect to look prior to Creation. The EFFECT of this sin is our History. And look at the past 6,000 years of the EFFECT of that sin in Adam.
 
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You're just backwards on the outline and formation of how your viewing this.
 
pittsburghjoe

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Satan started decoherence. He started the disorder in God's Kingdom.
You are not grasping that history did not have to physically happen before original sin.
 
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Satan was in existence in Heaven and in Sin when God Created...

If God used evolution to pass sin, then Satan has to be annihilated like the Big Bang. Satan, a Fallen Angel, is more powerful that the idea of the Big Bang. We know Satan was cast to Earth in full form, not a trillion particles of annihilated matter.

Your first error is evolution being the transporter of sin.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
What you guys are saying is that you don't want a scientific angle to attack the number one reason people don't believe ..evolution.
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The number one reason people don't believe is because they are born enemies of God (in Adam).

The natural man rejects God. A Spiritual rebirth is required to be reconciled to Him.

The supernatural work of God is to change the natural man into a spiritual one.

Belief in evolution, on the other hand, is not something people are born with.
 
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