Now your flopping around from Adam to Satan.
Satan's History still has no EFFECT upon Creation till Adam sins. Adam is pure till he sins.
Is the double slit experiment proof of original sin?
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Now your flopping around from Adam to Satan.
Satan's History still has no EFFECT upon Creation till Adam sins. Adam is pure till he sins.
Really? You told me evolution is the true origin of Life from the Big Bang. Do I need to go back and copy/paste things you frequently choose to forget that you typed and hit sent towards this conversation?
Do it.
I was saying the physical history was set to go all they way back to the Big Bang.
We've discussed the origin of Sin = Satan that you said was a particle after the Big Bang.
We've discussed the errors to evolution, especially being the sin transporter to Adam where you said his sin and soul came from evolution at same time.
Then I prove Satan is another realm, so then you jump to Fallen Angels on Earth.
We've discussed then that Decoherence can only detect the EFFECTS of sin, so it means AFTER Adam sins not prior.
We've discussed this about 7 different ways and then you flip flop.
You're wrong and you KNOW that you're wrong!
You ain't fooling anyone here.
We've discussed the errors to evolution, especially being the sin transporter to Adam where you said his sin and soul came from evolution at same time.
Then I prove Satan is another realm, so then you jump to Fallen Angels on Earth.
We've discussed then that Decoherence can only detect the EFFECTS of sin, so it means AFTER Adam sins not prior.
We've discussed this about 7 different ways and then you flip flop.
You're wrong and you KNOW that you're wrong!
You ain't fooling anyone here.
A particle? Decoherence is all particles. Physicality. Locality. Wave collapse. Disorder.
The whole point is that evolution is physical history after we end up here.
Satan stared everything fallen ..decoherence ..you want to call it a realm, fine, whatever.
Effects of sin? This place IS sin.
I'll give you an out here. Kicks myself twice for this..
There is Decoherence from the moment Satan sinned until now. But that had no effect upon God, His Kingdom, His Purpose and Will. How Satan connects to Adam is where this discussion went [retarded]. Satan connects to Adam because 2 things here.
1. Satan = Enemy of God and His Creation
2. God booted Satan to Earth which is a place of His Creation to Adam
So yes, there is Decoherence with Satan this entire time. But with God and His Creation of Adam it is pure and harmonic.
Adam's decoherence begins when he sins, but Adam has no HISTORY of sin yet.
Satan is the History of sin, like I said 30 times now!!!!!!!
But Satan's history of sin [is not] Adam's History.
So for Satan, Decoherence began [AFTER] his original sin just like for Adam, his Decoherence began [AFTER] his sin.
No one had Decoherence prior to their sin.
Which also destroys the particle theory of sin!
There is Decoherence from the moment Satan sinned until now. But that had no effect upon God, His Kingdom, His Purpose and Will. How Satan connects to Adam is where this discussion went [retarded]. Satan connects to Adam because 2 things here.
1. Satan = Enemy of God and His Creation
2. God booted Satan to Earth which is a place of His Creation to Adam
So yes, there is Decoherence with Satan this entire time. But with God and His Creation of Adam it is pure and harmonic.
Adam's decoherence begins when he sins, but Adam has no HISTORY of sin yet.
Satan is the History of sin, like I said 30 times now!!!!!!!
But Satan's history of sin [is not] Adam's History.
So for Satan, Decoherence began [AFTER] his original sin just like for Adam, his Decoherence began [AFTER] his sin.
No one had Decoherence prior to their sin.
Which also destroys the particle theory of sin!
That's the biggest flaw of your argument, NO ONE had Decoherence before they sinned.
Decoherence began AFTER a sin was committed.
Decoherence began AFTER a sin was committed.
All of it because the Big Bang never happened so particles DO NOT exist in the way Science has them defined.
Adam did not have a physical history of this fallen place until after he sinned. That physical history is in the past. It didn't have to actually happen.
pittsburghjoe,
Evolution is only true if the Big Bang is true. If the Big Bang is false so is Evolution.
That's why your argument is flawed. The Reality you speak of [Big Bang to Evolution of man to sin] does not factually exist. No one has ever proven the validity to the Big Bang. But Science has to maintain the Big Bang Theory because that means Evolution is wrong.
What you have proven to me pittsburghjoe, you are Agnostic!
Evolution is only true if the Big Bang is true. If the Big Bang is false so is Evolution.
That's why your argument is flawed. The Reality you speak of [Big Bang to Evolution of man to sin] does not factually exist. No one has ever proven the validity to the Big Bang. But Science has to maintain the Big Bang Theory because that means Evolution is wrong.
What you have proven to me pittsburghjoe, you are Agnostic!
Why are you on a Christian site when you actually believe Science [men/women] like the rest of us over what God claims in His Holy Word?
There can be a Big Bang and Evolution ..in a past history that didn't actually happen. This answers how Earth was started 7,000 years ago.
There is only ONE HISTORY here, but you have turned that into a point before this event vs a point after event.
You're using the basic scale:
<9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9>
The Big Bang has never been proven. We all know that. So until there is proof, all theories related to the big bang are also false like evolution.
I do not need a scale in the timeline of history to know the bang never happened.
But you don't stop there, you have [Parallel Universes and history timelines] so if one timeline does not include Big bang and Evolution, in one of YOUR other Parallel timelines it will include Big Bang and Evolution.
Your mind is layers and layers of different realms. Interesting.
I told you the fallen angels don't have anything to do with physicality. They were here first. We don't see their physical history.
You are still not grasping what I'm handing you. What good is physical history to people in an infinite Heaven?
We now know why the Bible says the Earth is this old and why Man was first created without evolution. Scientists can have their big bang and evolution ..it doesn't matter anymore.
You are still not grasping what I'm handing you. What good is physical history to people in an infinite Heaven?
We now know why the Bible says the Earth is this old and why Man was first created without evolution. Scientists can have their big bang and evolution ..it doesn't matter anymore.
God created [Time]. Let's say God created Time during Creation in Genesis. That means the space prior to [TIME] cannot be calculated and described as History. And if sin originated during this period, there is no physical HISTORY.
The Earth wasn't fallen to humans until original sin. That means it didn't have physical history until that point. Then it had a history ..one that didn't actually happen.