Believers and non believers; what's the difference?

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The presence of God is the presence of love in people.

You cannot be saying that a person with love has God's presence within them.

A Christian is to be filled with the Holy Spirit, the actual presence of God within the believer.
 
Your salvation is contingent upon love.
My salvation is contingent on faith in the shed righteous blood of Jesus Christ
to pay my sin debt, reconciling me to God, and attaining to life ever after,
thereby escaping the fate of the unrepentant, who will suffer the second death.
 
My salvation is contingent on faith in the shed righteous blood of Jesus Christ
to pay my sin debt, reconciling me to God, and attaining to life ever after,
thereby escaping the fate of the unrepentant, who will suffer the second death.
Mine too.
 
You cannot be saying that a person with love has God's presence within them.

A Christian is to be filled with the Holy Spirit, the actual presence of God within the believer.
1 John 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
 
1 John 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.


Not sure I understand your point.
If a person loves his neighbor is he full filling the righteous requirements of God for his eternal salvation?
 
Not sure I understand your point.
If a person loves his neighbor is he full filling the righteous requirements of God for his eternal salvation?

According to John, you need to love your neighbor whom you can see, before you can love God whom you cannot see. 1 John 4:20

So if you need to love God to be saved, according to John, then yes, loving your neighbor is required for salvation. 1 John 4:7
 
The answer, I believe, lies in the truth. Only the Spirit of God can reveal the divina e truth to you. That is wisdom.
If you are a child of God then you will be able to worship him in spirit and in truth, for he seeks those that do.
The spirit of truth is the Holy Spirit of God. The same jesus was of. The same Spirit that claimed Christ is in control of all things seen and unseen.
You will adhere to the truths in the bible. You will know without a shadow of a doubt what the truth is, and you will be set free.
So. The question is: What does the Spirit confirm in you? What doctrine is the right one?
I person
 
Only when one lies fallen in the dust, in complete humility, can the see clearly that the fallen state of mankind everywhere is not primarily in need of an example, but a savior.
 
You don't think the bible can actually SAY what it means ?
Do you think it is so plain no one misses it's meaning?
Which verse says he reminds' US ' ??
Where is the verse that teaches there has to be a verse? Anyhow

John 14

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
 
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