Is the double slit experiment proof of original sin?

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Original Sin caused us to join the present state ..the now. Fallen angels were already here. Satan started it. But I don't think there was a physical history until humans joined. Time here is a slideshow of present states. An infinite sum of waves collapsing each frame.
Time Dilation and Gravity is the amount of wave collapse in a scalar volume per frame.
 

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Sin caused us to join the present state ..the now.
you do not have a 'present' -- you only have a past and a future.

it is God who is I AM -- the eternally present. and you call Him "sin"

i don't understand why you're fine with doing that, either. i think it's probably related to how you're fine with contradicting the scripture, but i haven't quite put the proverbial finger on it. some of it, am sure, has to do with your fundamental misunderstandings of physics, but i think that's secondary, not causal.
 
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Is there gravity in Heaven? Is this why Jesus ascended into Heaven?
If there isn't wave collapse, is there hot and cold?

A constant state of decoherence causes age.

Gravity is from the amount of atoms that need to remain wave collapsed per volume.

Time and Gravity are linked because they both are fundamental to this fallen condition.
 
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Is there gravity in Heaven? Is this why Jesus ascended into Heaven?
If there isn't wave collapse, is there hot and cold?

A constant state of decoherence causes age.

Gravity is from the amount of atoms that need to remain wave collapsed per volume.

Time and Gravity are linked because they both are fundamental to this fallen condition.

Jesus was physical before ascending. Did He become molecules in order to ascend?

First and foremost, we need to establish ONE LAW. That is, the Laws of Physics DO NOT APPLY TO GOD!

A Miracle, is the single best example of where the Laws of Physics give way to the Will of God.



You are applying Physics to the Realm of Heaven, the Realm where God defies the Laws of Physics. Heaven would be a [perfect example] of a Miracle.

Your first error and greatest error is assigning human laws of Physics to God. Then the continued error you keep making is to combine God's Creation and Satan's Sin Nature to the human Laws of Physics.

But if God and Satan defy the Laws of Physics, the use of Science to explain [SIN] is redundantly [Stupid]!
 
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Jesus was physical before ascending. Did He become molecules in order to ascend?

First and foremost, we need to establish ONE LAW. That is, the Laws of Physics DO NOT APPLY TO GOD!

A Miracle, is the single best example of where the Laws of Physics give way to the Will of God.



You are applying Physics to the Realm of Heaven, the Realm where God defies the Laws of Physics. Heaven would be a [perfect example] of a Miracle.

Your first error and greatest error is assigning human laws of Physics to God. Then the continued error you keep making is to combine God's Creation and Satan's Sin Nature to the human Laws of Physics.

But if God and Satan defy the Laws of Physics, the use of Science to explain [SIN] is redundantly [Stupid]!


God is the First Law of Everything!
Every Law after that is subject to the First Law!

This is why when it comes to the [origin] of sin, the use of SCIENCE in an form or shape is like trying to milk a bull cow like its a heifer!
 
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You are blind to what I've accomplished in this thread. I just defined Gravity and Time Dilation and linked it to this fallen reality.
 
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You are blind to what I've accomplished in this thread. I just defined Gravity and Time Dilation and linked it to this fallen reality.


Only you know what it is you've accomplished because the rest of us know your hypothesis using Science is retarded when trying to deal with SIN.

Sin is like a Miracle.

There's no limits because there's no Laws refraining when we want to sin and when God wants to perform a Miracle.


Simply put, You're a legend in your own mind while the rest of us are looking at you like you're bat poo crazy!
 
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I get why you are afraid of Science. You don't have to be anymore. I have the formula to wake the world with Science.
 

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How can you sin without physical history?
How could Adam and Eve then sin since according to you, they had no physical history???

Making plain your nonsense once again :)

How many times is that now? :unsure:

I have lost count :giggle:
 
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I get why you are afraid of Science. You don't have to be anymore. I have the formula to wake the world with Science.
I am not afraid of Science. My entire paycheck is based upon several uses of quantum mechanics and multiple aspects of the Sciences.

My point however is this, I know when Science is the answer and when it stops being the answer because God is the FIRST LAW!

You clearly don't know that God is the First Law or you would not be pushing this tripe.
 
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How could Adam and Eve then sin since according to you, they had no physical history???

Making plain your nonsense once again :)

How many times is that now? :unsure:

I have lost count :giggle:
You are asking how they were able to hold and eat the apple. They were more than physical. The tree didn't look any different to them.
 
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Yeah, I'll ask one last thing and hope this time I get an answer.

Decoherence
Retrocasuality
Particles

all represent energy, the definition of certain energy, and flow/change in flow of energy.

Obviously, to you we must also be this energy since we are ultimately connected to the Universe as a whole.


Do You think God is [Energy]?
 

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You are asking how they were able to hold and eat the apple. They were more than physical. The tree didn't look any different to them.
No I am not, and you should KNOW that I am not because I have pointed out to you at least once that there was no apple. You contradict yourself all over the place and defeat your own arguments. Your claim is they were not physical at all and therefore, with no physical history, could not sin. Bunkum!!! Give it up, man.
 
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Yeah, I'll ask one last thing and hope this time I get an answer.

Decoherence
Retrocasuality
Particles

all represent energy, the definition of certain energy, and flow/change in flow of energy.

Obviously, to you we must also be this energy since we are ultimately connected to the Universe as a whole.


Do You think God is [Energy]?
God created everything, but Satan stared disorder. Disorder in Coherence is Decoherence. Local Energy is being used in local objects.
 
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No I am not, and you should KNOW that I am not because I have pointed out to you at least once that there was no apple. You contradict yourself all over the place and defeat your own arguments. Your claim is they were not physical at all and therefore, with no physical history, could not sin. Bunkum!!! Give it up, man.
Ohh noooes! It might not have been specifically an apple! That means everything I said is wrong!
 

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Ohh noooes! It might not have been specifically an apple! That means everything I said is wrong!
You have shown yourself incapable and unwilling to admit when you are wrong.

In lieu of that, I suggest you stick to Scripture ;)

Though you prolly will not.

You seem incapable and unwilling of that also :(

You have been been so deceived by your vain philosophy
you do not even know that "vain" means useless LOL


Though you do seek something in desiring to wake millions :oops:

Whatever it is, is part of your delusion.
 
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God created everything, but Satan stared disorder. Disorder in Coherence is Decoherence. Local Energy is being used in local objects.


Theoretically speaking here, this statement is a Fact!
It's actually a very good definition.
And the transition from one to the other is logically sound.
On this statement, if this Statement here equaled everything you have posted prior, we are in [Agreement].


It's when you try to get specific in your examples is where my [red light] starts flashing to proceed with caution.
 

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Gravity is from the amount of atoms that need to remain wave collapsed per volume.
That idea is irreconcilable with reality. Unobserved ((therefore uncillapsed probability distribution)) particles still exert gravitation

Moreover - photons.