Why does God allow suffering?
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1Jn_4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
1Jn_4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
God is without fault.
Sin is to go against the principles that hold the universe in Gods love. Satan did it and was separated from God. Separation from God equals death, and Adam had a choose (free will), and choose to disobey God and handed the world to Satan. Satan is the king of this world and has corrupted it more and more but we have a choose to make Jesus our Lord and follow Him. Jesus will be given this Earth when sin is destroyed and He will recreate it new. Rev 20, 21, 22.
Suffering will continue while ever Satan is working and while ever sin is being practiced.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Rev 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
1Jn_4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
God is without fault.
Sin is to go against the principles that hold the universe in Gods love. Satan did it and was separated from God. Separation from God equals death, and Adam had a choose (free will), and choose to disobey God and handed the world to Satan. Satan is the king of this world and has corrupted it more and more but we have a choose to make Jesus our Lord and follow Him. Jesus will be given this Earth when sin is destroyed and He will recreate it new. Rev 20, 21, 22.
Suffering will continue while ever Satan is working and while ever sin is being practiced.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Rev 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
The infinite is beyond my comprehension, but i know what the word has given us and that God has not turned away, or ignored, or chosen to limit His knowledge of this world. He became one of us and suffered with us. Was tempted in all points like us. Yet without sin. Jesus is our mediator today, giving His blood for our sins. The Justice and mercy of the kingdom of God meets perfectly at the cross. God is able to be just and righteous (uphold the law, sin = death) yet He is able to be forgiving and merciful.
The Devil thought he could win, -- if God caused all the Earth to die and started again, fear and seeds of doubt would have been planted, obedience would not be from love but fear. ----If God allowed the planet to continue sinning and taken away the death that results, the problem would have been immortalized. God gave us a perfect solution in Jesus, He paid the price but we still need to choose Gods way.
The Devil thought he could win, -- if God caused all the Earth to die and started again, fear and seeds of doubt would have been planted, obedience would not be from love but fear. ----If God allowed the planet to continue sinning and taken away the death that results, the problem would have been immortalized. God gave us a perfect solution in Jesus, He paid the price but we still need to choose Gods way.
Explain these:
The LORD said to Satan, "Where have you come from?" Satan answered the LORD, "From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it." Job 1:7
Genesis 18:21
Then the LORD said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great. Because their sin is so grievous, I will go down to see if their actions fully justify the outcry that has reached Me. If not, I will find out.”
Matthew 7:23
And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!
The LORD said to Satan, "Where have you come from?" Satan answered the LORD, "From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it." Job 1:7
Genesis 18:21
Then the LORD said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great. Because their sin is so grievous, I will go down to see if their actions fully justify the outcry that has reached Me. If not, I will find out.”
Matthew 7:23
And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!
Do you ask children questions that you already know the answer to. In a court questions are asked so the magistrate hear the answer come from the questioned party.
If God only talked about the things that He didn't know, God would be silent.
"And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!"
As John 14 explains Gods people follow Him and He knows them, You can know all about someone and not know them personally, If Jesus knows us personally, intimately, deeply we will be saved, but if we are just known outwardly, He can say "i never knew you".
If God only talked about the things that He didn't know, God would be silent.
"And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!"
As John 14 explains Gods people follow Him and He knows them, You can know all about someone and not know them personally, If Jesus knows us personally, intimately, deeply we will be saved, but if we are just known outwardly, He can say "i never knew you".
If we go back to the garden of Eden, it is originally without sin and suffering. It was man's choice to bring sin and suffering into the world, not the Lord's choice.
The Lord made forgiveness of sins available, and that was Christ. It was through the sacrificial system that Christ made partial forgiveness available, when Christ was crucified, that forgiveness was made perfect.
Through Christ we are even given the fruits of the spirit when we accept God's answer to sin and suffering, and we can look forward to mansions when we leave this world.
The Lord made forgiveness of sins available, and that was Christ. It was through the sacrificial system that Christ made partial forgiveness available, when Christ was crucified, that forgiveness was made perfect.
Through Christ we are even given the fruits of the spirit when we accept God's answer to sin and suffering, and we can look forward to mansions when we leave this world.
When God the Father doesn't know something it always involves something fallen.
Quantum Uncertainty
Quantum Uncertainty
- Momentum is about which path of all possible paths (God's Love), no single moments.
- Position is a snapshot of a single decohered (fallen) point on a path, but you can't tell which path because it is only a single point.
Here is another example of God not knowing something.
Can God limit His knowledge to allow this fallen place to exist? Does this explain why bad things happen here? Does God have full knowledge of those that let Him work through? - Contending for the faith - Quora
Can God limit His knowledge to allow this fallen place to exist? Does this explain why bad things happen here? Does God have full knowledge of those that let Him work through? - Contending for the faith - Quora
