Would God Have us Solve Confusion of baptisms?

[Yahcubs777]

Ok then where do I find this knowledge that you speak of? This good news. The Word tells us how to live and not die. Give me a Scripture pointing to "divine revelations" and assimilation of it. Where did Jesus say this?

Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of GOD.

Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of Man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

if a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.

I am the bread of life that come down from heaven; your fathers ate manna and are dead, but he that eats of this bread shall not die but live forever.

The Parable of the new wine and wine caskets.

Enoch, and Elijah the Great Prophets lived forever without dying at all... Jesus His Pre-Eminence brought the Revelation as to how, when HE transfigured on the moutain of Olives. The Transfigured body, is the Born again body, that is in the image of GOD.

13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

The few that found it are Enoch and Elijah...

Except ye are born again, ye cannot see the kingdom of GOD.
Except ye are born of water and of the Spirit, ye cannot enter into the kingdom of GOD.

Enoch and Elijah both entered into heaven. How did they do it if they were not born again?

 

[kaylagrl]

Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of GOD.

Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of Man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

if a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.

I am the bread of life that come down from heaven; your fathers ate manna and are dead, but he that eats of this bread shall not die but live forever.

The Parable of the new wine and wine caskets.

Enoch, and Elijah the Great Prophets lived forever without dying at all... Jesus His Pre-Eminence brought the Revelation as to how, when HE transfigured on the moutain of Olives. The Transfigured body, is the Born again body, that is in the image of GOD.

13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

The few that found it are Enoch and Elijah...

Except ye are born again, ye cannot see the kingdom of GOD.
Except ye are born of water and of the Spirit, ye cannot enter into the kingdom of GOD.

Enoch and Elijah both entered into heaven. How did they do it if they were not born again?

The same way all were saved before Christ, by faith. That is what the Word says.

 

[Yahcubs777]

The same way all were saved before Christ, by faith. That is what the Word says.

Faith is a parable for Revelations. By Revelations the elders obtained a good report. Revelations in me, the hope of my transfiguration. Why do you think Jesus His Pre-Eminence preached about HIS WORD abiding in us? It is because HIS WORD has that which can immortalise the body (neghbor) in life alive. That to love the neighbor as you love yourself (your Spirit Being) is to immortalise your body so that she can be wedded to the Spirit and death can be crushed.

The wedding garment is the transfigured body, which cannot be inherited but must be put on in life by putting of mortality, and putting on immortality. And then you wil, say, O death where is thy sting, or death where is thy victory?

It is when you have put on the immortal body in life, that you can drink any deadly thing and it will not harm you, you can pick up serpents and they cannot harm you. Because the body is immortal. Ye are the light of tyhe world, because the WORD is light and light begets Light. The cell system that the GENE of GOD hatches is the immortal cell system, the cell that cannot reproduce, that cannot split that cannot die. The cell is the incotrruptible seed hatched by the assimilation of Revelations into our Spirit Being.

This is why the Men of Genesis to Noah lived hundreds and hundreds of years and Even ENOCH lived forever without dying at all and it was written that he pleased GOD. What did he do? He put on immortality in life alive. It is what Abraham was told to do with his son, Isaac, but he didn't get the message right, and it led to him about to kill his son, and then GOD stopped him to show it was not right. But he was told to feed Isaac revelations and immortatlise in life so that he can return to heaven alive. Death is the enemy, death cannot lead you to GOD.

The corruptible seed is the blood cell system. The incorruptible seed is immortal cell system called 'The GOD kind of life". And it is a must add seed - meaning it does not reproduce it must be added by assimilatiing revelations as they are coming out which supplants the blood cell system in the body, overthrows the mortal nature, thoroughly burning the fat therof, bringing down the walls of mortality.

And to bring it full circle, this is a Baptizm, the immersion of your Spirit Being in the soul into the Celestial body of man. And this happens across Jordan, as it did with Elijah.

you can live and not die. Look at the prayers of the Pslamist, and of the Prophets, of Ezekiel : Can these bones live? Look at how they asked that they live and not die. This has been the message since the beginning, that by assimilating the WORD of GOD into your Spirit Being, you can overthrow the sin nature (mortality) and put on immortality in life alive without dying at all.

This is the Gospel of Ever Lasting life.

 

[presidente]

Yes, it is one of the plagues, and there are more to come. The preachers of the earth today, are in the streets spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, where they crucified our LORD. This was coded. Egypt Spiritualy means the terrestrial earth. Sodom Spiritualy means the churches that are not the church that GOD said HE would build.

This is not what Revelation 11:8 says,
"And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."

You are re-allegoricalizing the passage. There was an allegory in the passage. The allegory is explained. You are relabeling the definitions of the words. Why should I accept your allegory? Your version is not in the Bible. Do you want us to think God showed this to you? If you do not think God calls or sends men to preach, why would you believe He gives you messages that are not in the Bible?

Since some of your interpretations do not line up with the teachings and interpretations of the apostles, why should we accept them?

 

[Yahcubs777]

This is not what Revelation 11:8 says,
"And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."

You are re-allegoricalizing the passage. There was an allegory in the passage. The allegory is explained. You are relabeling the definitions of the words. Why should I accept your allegory? Your version is not in the Bible. Do you want us to think God showed this to you? If you do not think God calls or sends men to preach, why would you believe He gives you messages that are not in the Bible?

Since some of your interpretations do not line up with the teachings and interpretations of the apostles, why should we accept them?

The great city is Babylon. Where is babylon now? It was pointing to the two tablet stone, which symbolied the Law and the Prophet. Look at what it is written of them:

6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Who was it that turned the waters to blood? It was Moses.
Who was it that shut up the heaven so that it did not rain? It was Elijah.

revelations is written in Prophetic language, and it contains the beginning to the end, not just the end times. That is why at the start it talks about the 7 Angels of the 7 Churches, which started from Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Joshua, Apostle Peter, and the 7th Angel of the Church...

It is meaning that the testimonies of the Law, Moses, and the Testimonies of the Prophets, Elijah, that lay dead on the streets Spiritually called Sodom and Egypt. there is an instance in this earth where we have scrolls labelled "the dead sea scrolls" so truly testomonies can be called dead.

Elijah and Moses both were on the mountain of Olives in Mark 9. They have their transfigured bodies. They cannot die anymore. No, it is talking about how the WORD was in a dead state. And the 3 days is speaking of the "times, time and half a time, not 3 literal days.

You do not have to agree with me. I am running my race to immortalisation in life. If you do not run your race, you will realise in Abrahams Bosom that you did not. And this i am sharing for the children of life, and for a witness. Only the children of life transfigured in life alive.

As Jesus His Pre-Eminence said: Life and death I put before you, choose life.

I choose life.

 

[Yahcubs777]

I have no reason to think that seraphim have an unusual number of eyes like cherubim. I have never, to my knowledge, seen either of them myself.

Put simply, the Cherubim are the Masculine version, while the Seraphim are the feminine. They have the same anatomy but the Seraphim are more feminine. Do you see the beauty of a snake in the earth, like how the colors of their skin are. I am not saying snakes are beautiful at all. The Cherubim and Seraphim have embroidered skin, and im told its very beautiful. I also have never seen them before, This is what i have known by revelations... The way these female muscisians that display a height if immorality behave, you may have seen how they interact with snakes in their film clips, this is serpentine behaviour.

 

[Nehemiah6]

The word for 'seraph' in Isaiah 6 is translated to refer to types of snakes/serpents in other passages in Isaiah.

So now we have to resort to misrepresentation just because there are several meanings of one word? That is plainly foolish. This is the correct meaning: majestic beings with 6 wings, human hands or voices in attendance upon God.

The Seraphim and Cherubim are the highest order of angels, To talk about serpents in this context is just plain wicked.

 

[Yahcubs777]

So now we have to resort to misrepresentation just because there are several meanings of one word? That is plainly foolish. This is the correct meaning: majestic beings with 6 wings, human hands or voices in attendance upon God.

The Seraphim and Cherubim are the highest order of angels, To talk about serpents in this context is just plain wicked.

Angels have two wings, not 6. Cherubim and Seraphim have 6. And they are not angels.

 

[kaylagrl]

Faith is a parable for Revelations. By Revelations the elders obtained a good report. Revelations in me, the hope of my transfiguration. Why do you think Jesus His Pre-Eminence preached about HIS WORD abiding in us? It is because HIS WORD has that which can immortalise the body (neghbor) in life alive. That to love the neighbor as you love yourself (your Spirit Being) is to immortalise your body so that she can be wedded to the Spirit and death can be crushed.

The wedding garment is the transfigured body, which cannot be inherited but must be put on in life by putting of mortality, and putting on immortality. And then you wil, say, O death where is thy sting, or death where is thy victory?

It is when you have put on the immortal body in life, that you can drink any deadly thing and it will not harm you, you can pick up serpents and they cannot harm you. Because the body is immortal. Ye are the light of tyhe world, because the WORD is light and light begets Light. The cell system that the GENE of GOD hatches is the immortal cell system, the cell that cannot reproduce, that cannot split that cannot die. The cell is the incotrruptible seed hatched by the assimilation of Revelations into our Spirit Being.

This is why the Men of Genesis to Noah lived hundreds and hundreds of years and Even ENOCH lived forever without dying at all and it was written that he pleased GOD. What did he do? He put on immortality in life alive. It is what Abraham was told to do with his son, Isaac, but he didn't get the message right, and it led to him about to kill his son, and then GOD stopped him to show it was not right. But he was told to feed Isaac revelations and immortatlise in life so that he can return to heaven alive. Death is the enemy, death cannot lead you to GOD.

The corruptible seed is the blood cell system. The incorruptible seed is immortal cell system called 'The GOD kind of life". And it is a must add seed - meaning it does not reproduce it must be added by assimilatiing revelations as they are coming out which supplants the blood cell system in the body, overthrows the mortal nature, thoroughly burning the fat therof, bringing down the walls of mortality.

And to bring it full circle, this is a Baptizm, the immersion of your Spirit Being in the soul into the Celestial body of man. And this happens across Jordan, as it did with Elijah.

you can live and not die. Look at the prayers of the Pslamist, and of the Prophets, of Ezekiel : Can these bones live? Look at how they asked that they live and not die. This has been the message since the beginning, that by assimilating the WORD of GOD into your Spirit Being, you can overthrow the sin nature (mortality) and put on immortality in life alive without dying at all.

This is the Gospel of Ever Lasting life.

Whelp, I did ask, that's on me. So are you saying that those with this revelation will never die? Because the Bible says it's appointed once for a man to die. Living forever is what the kingdom is about, its our future. Our body is corruptible now, here on earth. When Christ returns we will have bodies that never die. There's no special knowledge, there's no special revelation or gene. That Bible doesn't teach any of that anywhere. The patriarchs of the OT died, the prophets died, the disciples died. The kingdom has not yet come, our bodies are not yet perfect, but one day they will be. BTW Ezekiels dry bones are speaking of Israel, not to the Gentiles.

 

[Yahcubs777]

Whelp, I did ask, that's on me. So are you saying that those with this revelation will never die? Because the Bible says it's appointed once for a man to die. Living forever is what the kingdom is about, its our future. Our body is corruptible now, here on earth. When Christ returns we will have bodies that never die. There's no special knowledge, there's no special revelation or gene. That Bible doesn't teach any of that anywhere. The patriarchs of the OT died, the prophets died, the disciples died. The kingdom has not yet come, our bodies are not yet perfect, but one day they will be. BTW Ezekiels dry bones are speaking of Israel, not to the Gentiles.

Saul paul claimed that it is appointed unto man once to die. Yet, in 1 Cor 15 he says we shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed.
Jesus His Pre-Eminence also said: There be some standing here that did not taste of death.

Saul paul also said: corruption shall not inherit incorruption... So teacher, explain to me how the mortal body will inherit the immortal body?

Enoch and Elijah lived forever.

You have just answered the messages of Jesus His Pre-Eminence the way the Pharisees did.

 

[phil36]

Saul paul claimed that it is appointed unto man once to die. Yet, in 1 Cor 15 he says we shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed.
Jesus His Pre-Eminence also said: There be some standing here that did not taste of death.

Saul paul also said: corruption shall not inherit incorruption...

So teacher, explain to me how the mortal body will inherit the immortal body?

.

Thats easy:


(Philippians 3)

.... And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.

 

[kaylagrl]

Saul paul claimed that it is appointed unto man once to die. Yet, in 1 Cor 15 he says we shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed.
Jesus His Pre-Eminence also said: There be some standing here that did not taste of death.

Saul paul also said: corruption shall not inherit incorruption... So teacher, explain to me how the mortal body will inherit the immortal body?

Enoch and Elijah lived forever.

You have just answered the messages of Jesus His Pre-Eminence the way the Pharisees did.

Perfectly answered by our brother Phil. The old hymn of the church says "changed in the twinkling of an eye". And don't mock people if you want them to believe your revelation. Sarcasm turns people off to your message. We do not have that new body yet, but we will.

 

[Yahcubs777]

Perfectly answered by our brother Phil. The old hymn of the church says "changed in the twinkling of an eye". And don't mock people if you want them to believe your revelation. Sarcasm turns people off to your message. We do not have that new body yet, but we will.

I haven't mocked you. That is how the Pahrisees responded. That in the twinling of an eye, is at the spectacular termination of this solar system. And only those that have managed to bring down the walls of mortality will survive it to transfigure in life. While those that waited for HIS return and did not seek the kingdom, and did not assimialte revelations shall die, and go to Abrahams Bosom where they will wait for the second resurrection.

Again, you agreed that mortality is corruption. How then can mortality inhrerit immortality?

 

[Yahcubs777]

Thats easy:


(Philippians 3)

.... And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.

Not in life if you didn't put off mortality. In resurrection you will. But, the question is which resurrection you will belong too. There are still people in Abrahams Bosom today that rejected Noah and were not resurrected 2000 years ago.


And Ill say it again: Mortality cannot inherit immortality. Enoch and Elijah have already done this BEFORE the crucifixionand resurrection of Jesus His Pre-Eminence.

 

[kaylagrl]

I haven't mocked you. That is how the Pahrisees responded. That in the twinling of an eye, is at the spectacular termination of this solar system. And only those that have managed to bring down the walls of mortality will survive it to transfigure in life. While those that waited for HIS return and did not seek the kingdom, and did not assimialte revelations shall die, and go to Abrahams Bosom where they will wait for the second resurrection.

Again, you agreed that mortality is corruption. How then can mortality inhrerit immortality?

How can God become a man?

 

[Yahcubs777]

How can God become a man?

So you ignore what saul paul wrote because it doesn't agree with your belief. Wait and see what happens.

 

[phil36]

And Ill say it again: Mortality cannot inherit immortality. Enoch and Elijah have already done this BEFORE the crucifixionand resurrection of Jesus His Pre-Eminence.

We can only attain true life in Jesus Christ, the saviour and Son of God. We have already inherited Life if we are in Jesus the Son of God.

 

[Yahcubs777]

We can only attain true life in Jesus Christ, the saviour and Son of God. We have already inherited Life if we are in Jesus the Son of God.

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Corruption (mortality) does not inherit immortality (incorruption)... Blood cannot inherit the kingdom. I tell you, that if you are waiting for this to happen, it will not happen. You will be like the man at the wedding without his wedding garment. This is not for you to believe or not believe, you will know its true when the time comes.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

Previous to this he said that every man must die... But here he says we shall not all sleep (die). We shall al be changed? Again not true. what about those resurrected at the second resurrection?

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

This is what Rev 10:7 was pointing too.

7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

What is that mystery? The mystery of immortality + incorruptibility which saul paul called a mystery. What about it? The revelations of how to achieve it. Compare to Acts 3:19-23


19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.

20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:

21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.

23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

1 Cor 15 continued:
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

This is exactly the Gospel of Ever lasting life, the message that ive been sharing here. And there is how to do it, which was revealed by Jesus His Pre-Eminence. Putting off mortality, putting of that egyptian attire, putting on immortality, putting on the wedding garment, the garments of praise. It is NOT an inheritance, it must be put on.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

when you put on immoratlity, you cannot die anymore. This is what Enoch and Elijah achieved...

This is the Gospel of Ever lasting life, and it was reserved for the children of life because they had the ability to get the job done. It was called "the new wine" because it is the restored gospel, while those that came before had the old wine. For everyone at the wedding had been filled with the old wine, and then Jesus His Pre-Eminence brought out the new. And the ruler of the feast said: 10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.

As it is written: You must put new wine into new wine caskets.

The Revelations is that new wine, the Revelations is that bread of life, the Revelations is that water of life that when thou drinkest thereof, you will never thirst again, that when thou eatest thereof you will never hunger again, pointing to the kind of body that needs not bread or water to survive.

THIS IS A TRUMPET
COME OUT OF HER

 

[phil36]

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Corruption (mortality) does not inherit immortality (incorruption)... Blood cannot inherit the kingdom. I tell you, that if you are waiting for this to happen, it will not happen. You will be like the man at the wedding without his wedding garment. This is not for you to believe or not believe, you will know its true when the time comes.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

Previous to this he said that every man must die... But here he says we shall not all sleep (die). We shall al be changed? Again not true. what about those resurrected at the second resurrection?

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

This is what Rev 10:7 was pointing too.

7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

What is that mystery? The mystery of immortality + incorruptibility which saul paul called a mystery. What about it? The revelations of how to achieve it. Compare to Acts 3:19-23


19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.

20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:

21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.

23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

1 Cor 15 continued:
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

This is exactly the Gospel of Ever lasting life, the message that ive been sharing here. And there is how to do it, which was revealed by Jesus His Pre-Eminence. Putting off mortality, putting of that egyptian attire, putting on immortality, putting on the wedding garment, the garments of praise. It is NOT an inheritance, it must be put on.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

when you put on immoratlity, you cannot die anymore. This is what Enoch and Elijah achieved...

This is the Gospel of Ever lasting life, and it was reserved for the children of life because they had the ability to get the job done. It was called "the new wine" because it is the restored gospel, while those that came before had the old wine. For everyone at the wedding had been filled with the old wine, and then Jesus His Pre-Eminence brought out the new. And the ruler of the feast said: 10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.

As it is written: You must put new wine into new wine caskets.

The Revelations is that new wine, the Revelations is that bread of life, the Revelations is that water of life that when thou drinkest thereof, you will never thirst again, that when thou eatest thereof you will never hunger again, pointing to the kind of body that needs not bread or water to survive.

THIS IS A TRUMPET
COME OUT OF HER

So how does a person put on immortality?

 

[presidente]

So now we have to resort to misrepresentation just because there are several meanings of one word? That is plainly foolish. This is the correct meaning: majestic beings with 6 wings, human hands or voices in attendance upon God.

The Seraphim and Cherubim are the highest order of angels, To talk about serpents in this context is just plain wicked.

It is what the word seraph means. You just did not get it because translators left the word untranslated. Don't blame me because you do not know what it means. He saw seraphs (seraphim) with six wings. It's right there in the passage. Ask Hebrew scholars about it. I can think of a couple off Old Testament scholars who described seraphim as snake-like beings with wings. Why would 'seraph' stop referring to snakes/serpents only for that one passage in Ezekiel. There are creatures with ox, human, eagle, and lion faces described in passages like this, too. God created snakes after all, just as He created oxen.