The Church Needs an Upgrade

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to huddle up in isolated areas so they don't have to deal with the world. Somehow it's deemed "Christian" to do this and label it as getting closer to God without the world's influence.
I don't really understand what should be a problem in isolating yourself from the world. The reason is that there is no profit in being persecuted if not for the sake of Jesus gospel, and in many cases, if the world doesn't like you, it's not necessarily about Jesus, but more about... love/hatred of money. (For me, I find it VERY VERY difficult to get accustomed to the systems of this world because everything is built around money / commerce / profit / promotion, etc.)
 
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And what makes the matter worse for me is that it seems like general church-goers are fine with these systems. I don't know though. I've not known many self-proclaimed Christians in my life. I don't know if I should post this here but honestly, I don't understand why US Christians like former president Trump.
 

shittim

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We have two main parties in the U.S. the dems hate everything Jesus represents. President Trump stood for what Jesus stands for and has a wonderful Christian bride whom he cherishes, he has openly declared his faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.
If we are truly Christian, we are no longer our own, His desires become our desires, His will becomes our will. That you would question the man God raised up ( and we know He raises up and takes down rulers) gives me pause about your own walk with the Savior.
best wishes
 

Butterflyyy

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the first Google it came up, how is it you did not take it to the Lord before saying you don't know why people like him? Are you not walking with the Savior in relationship?
best wishes

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/articl...d-and-savior-jesus-christ-natl-christmas-tree
If you look at her posts, this girl is very much in a relationship with Him👌

How is it you did not take it to the Lord before you spoke in such a discouraging way to a young and tender lamb of the Lord, brother?
Best wishes
 
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Are you not walking with the Savior in relationship?
It looks a bit aggressive, but it's hard to see emotion over text.

Anyway, "For Christians this is a holy season, the celebration of the birth of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,” he said, " - I actually saw this speech on NTD live. I know that he said "our lord and saviour", but how exactly does this speech prove that he has any amount of faith in Christ?
 
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If you look at her posts, this girl is very much in a relationship with Him👌

How is it you did not take it to the Lord before you spoke in such a discouraging way to a young and tender lamb of the Lord, brother?
Best wishes
Its a boy............ blue feet.............
 

shittim

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If you look at her posts, this girl is very much in a relationship with Him👌

How is it you did not take it to the Lord before you spoke in such a discouraging way to a young and tender lamb of the Lord, brother?
Best wishes
How is it you interject yourself in other peoples exchange?
 
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Well, no matter. All who do the will of the Father is a brother, sister, and mother.
But that man in the wedding dress should take it off immediately.
 
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President Trump stood for what Jesus stands for
So anyway, as I was saying, Mr. Trump's Christmas speech, if I recall correctly, did not express what he stood for that Jesus stands for. Moreover, did the former president do or say anything special and Godly in particular that Jesus did (like a good servant)?
 
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So anyway, as I was saying, Mr. Trump's Christmas speech, if I recall correctly, did not express what he stood for that Jesus stands for. Moreover, did the former president do or say anything special and Godly in particular that Jesus did (like a good servant)?
I am not American, but my question is do you think Mr Biden is going to do this for America? I don't think so. Not from what I have seen so far.
 
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The problem is there is a lack of Godley leaders. I don't vote for that reason. If I can't associate myself with what you stand for, I can't vote for you.
 
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Let's take, for a start, Mr. Trump's election slogan at the beginning, which was "AMERICA FIRST"

First of all, Jesus said "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight for it", but second of all, a good servant would not put his own name / glory first, but humble himself and serve the others. In that, this slogan "AMERICA FIRST" is quite self-magnifying for a proper believer. What say you?
 
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I’ve been pondering......”church “ has to change....like a new computer gets “upgrades” all the time....:unsure:

God wants to “upgrade” His church...

Imagine 1 or 2 acres of land and there are little huts/cabins/booths specifically for....Prayer, Healing, Sermon, Word of Wisdom, Word of Knowledge, Praise, Worship, Salvation, Food, Clothing, water baptism, Word of Prophecy, etc.

Church has to break out of the walls and all the structure and focus more on the needs of the people and how God wants to supply all the needs in one Sunday meeting....it’s NOT about just listen to the pastor and all eyes on the pastor.......it’s about God and all His people....

Our dear loving Father wants to love His children and meet our needs and pour His love in us and on us....healing us and drawing us close to Him!

Instead of coming to church and only getting a sermon, you can actually get all of the above!

What would an “Upgrade” of Church be to you?......:unsure::love:(y)
As members of Christ's church, we have formed our own parallel societies. While the church building serves as a kind of headquarters for a local congregation it is also meant to be attractive to outsiders without sacrificing function. A church building can become too much like a social club with fun activities; however, the goal should be to get people to love God.

Hebrews 10:25 is often quoted as a commandment to enforce church attendance, but all too often churches are usually just a sermon, maybe Bible study, and singing praises to God. Like always, context is vital to sound Biblical understanding:

Hebrews 10:24-25
24And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 25Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

Now if you'll notice the punctuation used here, the colon at the end of verse 24 is used to separate two independent clauses. The second clause is directly related to the first clause (not just vaguely related.) Meaning that in order to have what precedes the colon the following clause is necessary.

What does Hebrews 10:24-25 mean? Church should be about provoking one another to love and good works and that's why we gather. There is no law against love and good works so feel free to get creative.

Are churches following Hebrews 10:24-25 judge for yourself. Love and good works is the upgrade the church needs!

Notice they never say "Just go to church to get a sermon on Sunday then go home and forget about it until next week."

Every gathering of Christians should be about provoking one another to love and good works and generally up building.
 
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The problem is there is a lack of Godley leaders. I don't vote for that reason.
I agree. It's the same reason I don't vote either. Thing is, God was Israel's king in the beginning, but Israel chose a bramble from the people. (Judge 9:14-15) This said, if Republicans really were God's people, they would not have chosen a bramble king to be their ruler.
I am not American, but my question is do you think Mr Biden is going to do this for America?
Neither do I. But I had my bets that Biden would take the throne for a bit. I believe Daniel 9:20 was fulfilled by Trump.