Would God Have us Solve Confusion of baptisms?

[Yahcubs777]

The Cross provided for the shed Blood Necessary for my [sins]. His Death led to His victory over Death by Resurrecting. I am now in the same position. If I should "die" before the Return, I will eventually resurrect because of Yeshua's fulfillment.

look at that, shedding of blood, which is what you must do put on immoratlity in life.

Answer me this:

1. Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.

And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;

And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.

2. Who is the man that said this in the kingdom? Is he a Prophet?

3. It was done in the day of Moses, And the priest shall sprinkle the blood upon the altar of the LORD at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and burn the fat for a sweet savour unto the LORD. 7And they shall no more offer their sacrifices unto devils, after whom they have gone a whoring. This shall be a statute for ever unto them throughout their generations.

If Jesus His Pre-Eminence is the Lamb that was sacrificed to save the world, then why didn't they just take a cup of HIS blood, and sprinkle it in the most holy place the way they did in the day of Moses? After all, it is the blood of Jesus His Pre-Eminence that saves.

 

[Yahcubs777]

The Cross provided for the shed Blood Necessary for my [sins]. His Death led to His victory over Death by Resurrecting. I am now in the same position. If I should "die" before the Return, I will eventually resurrect because of Yeshua's fulfillment.

Had to reply again due to not being able to edit.

It is written: Death is the enemy. The Last Enemy to be defeated is death. If death is the enemy, how did Jesus His Pre-Eminence defeat it? Secondly, it is also says death still has to be defeated..

Finally it is written in Rev 20:

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Saul taught about the first resurrection, but he did not know about the second. Notice, that there are some that were resurrected unto life, and the rest were unto damnation. Those unto damnation were still resurrected but were cast into the lake of fire.

If Resurrection is the reward, then why are tares still resurrected? And the children of the kingdom that were in the second resurrection, why were they not in the first resurrection? Notice, that everyone was resurrected.

 

[presidente]

By taking the physical body on a Spiritual journey, by parting the red sea in the body (blood) which will bring down the walls of mortality, and crossing Jordan (parting the water in the body) to transfiguration in life.

These are the 4 stages of Positive metamorphosis, from gilgal to bethel, from Bethel to Jericho, from Jericho to Jordan and across. This is the path that the very Elijah took to the chariot of fire, signposted in 2 king's 2.

This is the process of supplanting the blood cell system with the immortal cell system l, draining the blood in the body, Burning the fat of the body thoroughly, which means to burn the excesses that the celestial body has no need of such as the heart of flesh, the lungs, kidneys, the anus and so on. When the immortal cell system has reached their Genome, the blood cell system will be completely overthrown and the immortal cell system will take over. The immortal cell system is a regenerative system. Ageing, sickness and death are completely crushed. This is when the walls of mortality have been brought down. Now ye are new creations in Christ. Old things have passed away, all things have become new. Now it is impossible to die, the body cannot be scarred, bruises, burnt, cut or anything. Now you have been born again. But still transfiguration has not happened. Now the water needs to be drained in the body, by the electric nature of the immortal cell system. This will happen over time. When the water has been completely drained you have crossed Jordan and are ready for transfiguration.

There is no reason to think that Israel crossing the Jordan has anything to do with anuses fading away or fluid being drained by something electric. How would you know whether resurrected bodies are drained by electric nature?

The Bible tells us that the dead in Christ shall rise first, and they that are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them to meet the Lord in the air. We also know that those who do not sleep will be changed in a moment in the twinkling of an eye.

Instead of these weird theories, let us learn the word of God.

Calling the Lord Jesus 'the Preeminence' sounds strange to me. The scripture speaks of Christ __having__ the preeminence.

 

[kaylagrl]

There be FEW that find it.... FEW.... if it was so, that the path to life is easy, why were many going through the broad gates, which leads to destruction? While there are only FEW that found it?

The belief, that coming to GOD is asking HIM to be LORD over your life, and being baptised by water, is easy. And there are many, many people that have done this... Yet the GOD said HIMSELF, there are only FEW that found it, and found it which is talking about seeking and ye shall find it, yet millions of millions of Christians since Jesus His Pre-Eminence was in the earth have done it the way Saul said to do it..

Truly, the church was deceived by the leaven of the Pharisee.

You're taking verses out of context and spinning them to what you believe. Jesus also said this

"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened"

Why do people take the wide path? Because following Christ requires sacrifice, some, (like the rich young ruler) are not willing to make.

Count it all joy, my brothers when you meet trials of various kinds, 3 for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness.

Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. 2 Do not be conformed to this world,but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

There is only one Way, through Christ. Talk to a lot of people today. They love the spirit world, they'll even tell you they are "spiritual". But when you begin to talk of Christ and being different from the world, a lot of people will tell you that's more of a sacrifice then they are willing to make. They don't want to give up their "freedom". That is why the verses are talking about the narrow path. People love their money, entertainment, vices, lusts of the flesh as the Bible says. They are deluded and deceived. Again, it does not mean what you are spinning it to mean.

 

[Yahcubs777]

There is no reason to think that Israel crossing the Jordan has anything to do with anuses fading away or fluid being drained by something electric. How would you know whether resurrected bodies are drained by electric nature?

The Bible tells us that the dead in Christ shall rise first, and they that are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them to meet the Lord in the air. We also know that those who do not sleep will be changed in a moment in the twinkling of an eye.

Instead of these weird theories, let us learn the word of God.





This is the process of putting immortality in life, by the assimilation of Divine, Eucharistic Revelations about the GOD, about the Son of GOD, about the Son of Man, about the kingdom of heaven, the heavens world's, the citizens of heaven, the lifestyle in heaven, the details of the transfigured body, how tall is she, how is the eyes of the celestial body, the white stone what is it? the hair, the chest plate, breastplate, the chin guard, the heel sprinter, the teeth kit, the man immortal skin, the glory raiments and much more, the image of the celestial immortal body that was what was coded by: put on the whole Armor of GOD...

This is the path to everlasting life, life uninterrupted, life without dying and waiting for resurrection.

[/QUOTE]

Do you think the Supernatural body, the glorified body has anus? Do you think that you will still go to the toilet? Do you understand what it means: All things have become new?

here is my question to you. You are in Christ correct? Can you tell me about how HIS body is? I mean you are sitted together with HIM by the right hand of the father, right? Can you tell me how does HIS eyes look? How tall is HIS body? What glory raiments does HE have? What are the systems of HIS body? What hairstyle does HE have? If you are in HIM, surely you can share these things with me, right?

I tell you, that no life was lost in the ARK of Noah. No man died in the ARK. But ye say, ye died in Christ. Because you were baptised into HIS death, and Raised with HIM... Do you think Christ is greater than the ARK of Noah?

The Immortal cell system is electric. That is why those that have that cell system are a "touch not". Just like uzah tried to touch the ARK and dropped dead, it was because off electricution. The Man running his race to jericho is a touch not, for he is a transformer, and you should not touch a transformer because of the dangers of electricution. He can light a neghborhood, a town, a city, a country, a world.

Touch not mine annointed, and do my Prophets no harm, a divine warning, not a plea.
Notice how before the last supper, no pharisee could touch HIM.

 

[Yahcubs777]

You're taking verses out of context and spinning them to what you believe. Jesus also said this

"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened"

Why do people take the wide path? Because following Christ requires sacrifice, some, (like the rich young ruler) are not willing to make.

Count it all joy, my brothers when you meet trials of various kinds, 3 for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness.

Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. 2 Do not be conformed to this world,but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

There is only one Way, through Christ. Talk to a lot of people today. They love the spirit world, they'll even tell you they are "spiritual". But when you begin to talk of Christ and being different from the world, a lot of people will tell you that's more of a sacrifice then they are willing to make. They don't want to give up their "freedom". That is why the verses are talking about the narrow path. People love their money, entertainment, vices, lusts of the flesh as the Bible says. They are deluded and deceived. Again, it does not mean what you are spinning it to mean.

Oh really? Then why does HE say: Seek ye first the kingdom of GOD and HIS rightouesness and all these shall be added unto you?
Notice, the seek is first?

What does it mean to seek? What does it mean to ask? what does it mean to knock? Enoch, knocked
Compare to:For thine is the kingdom, the Power and the Glory, forever and ever.

Seek the kingdom, ask the power, knock for the glory.

What is that power? It is that you immortalise in life. It is not that you resurrect from the dead. All people are resurrected that were in the ghost world as was written in rev 20.

Jesus His Pre-Eminence said to the Apostles, that they have asked nothing in HIS name. And HE said:

24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.

What is that joy that may be full that HE is speaking of?

You are among them that will realise, that you did not hear the voice of Jesus His Pre-Eminence. You follow after saul, and you shall have his reward.

 

[phil36]

I tell you, that no life was lost in the ARK of Noah. No man died in the ARK. But ye say, ye died in Christ. Because you were baptised into HIS death, and Raised with HIM... Do you think Christ is greater than the ARK of Noah?

Do you think the ARK of Noah was greater than Christ?

 

[Yahcubs777]

You're taking verses out of context and spinning them to what you believe. Jesus also said this

"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened"

Why do people take the wide path? Because following Christ requires sacrifice, some, (like the rich young ruler) are not willing to make.

Count it all joy, my brothers when you meet trials of various kinds, 3 for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness.

Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. 2 Do not be conformed to this world,but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

There is only one Way, through Christ. Talk to a lot of people today. They love the spirit world, they'll even tell you they are "spiritual". But when you begin to talk of Christ and being different from the world, a lot of people will tell you that's more of a sacrifice then they are willing to make. They don't want to give up their "freedom". That is why the verses are talking about the narrow path. People love their money, entertainment, vices, lusts of the flesh as the Bible says. They are deluded and deceived. Again, it does not mean what you are spinning it to mean.

Do you know that Abraham was rich. Abraham was unbelievably wealthy. Did he not walk the right path? The path that is broad, is the path that says: Believe that Jesus His Pre-Eminence died on the cross for your sins, and resurrected from the dead, and ascended and is now seated at the right hand of the father", and confess HIS lordship over your life, and ye shall receive the Holy Spirit". This is the broad way.Why?
Because everyone who does that, dies in this earth, detatches from their physical body, goes to Abrahams Bosom where they will wait for the resurrection. And many there go in there at.

The narrow path, the strait gate, is the immortalization of your body in life alive. And that path leads to ever lasting life. And there be few than find it. And that is achieved by the WORD of GOD.

 

[Yahcubs777]

Do you think the ARK of Noah was greater than Christ?

As it were in the days of Noah, so too shall the coming of the Son of Man be. No, the ARK of Noah is not Greater than the GOD. That is the point. If GOD can instruct and supply the materials needed for Noah to couple an ARK that saved all the lives of the people in it, how great was that ARK?

 

[presidente]

Do you think the Supernatural body, the glorified body has anus? Do you think that you will still go to the toilet? [/quote]

I have no opinion on this matter. We think of going to the toilet as gross, so it does not sound heavenly to us. We do know that Jesus ate fish. Presumably, he has a mouth. Whether He had a stomach after the resurrection would be a matter of speculation. But I am not going to post long posts about Jesus not having a stomach based on... a buch of hot air... or ridiculous allegorical interpretations. You have not presented yourself as being very credible. I get a similar feel off of your posts as what I got off of posts from someone on another forum trying to promote Enckanckar, and of your they do not make sense.

Do you understand what it means: All things have become new?

New stomach does not equal no stomach.

here is my question to you. You are in Christ correct? Can you tell me about how HIS body is? I mean you are sitted together with HIM by the right hand of the father, right? Can you tell me how does HIS eyes look? How tall is HIS body? What glory raiments does HE have? What are the systems of HIS body? What hairstyle does HE have? If you are in HIM, surely you can share these things with me, right?

I have not seen Christ with my physical eyes. Some people have had visions. That's great. Romans 8 also speaks of hoping for what we do not see.

What do you base your posts on? Do you claim to have seen Christ? I do not mean to goad you into saying 'yes' if you have not. If you have not, it is okay to say that you have not.

I tell you, that no life was lost in the ARK of Noah. No man died in the ARK. But ye say, ye died in Christ. Because you were baptised into HIS death, and Raised with HIM... Do you think Christ is greater than the ARK of Noah?

Yes. As far as I know, there was no animal or person raised from the dead in the ark of Noah, and all those raised from the dead before Christ were revived back to a normal mortal state. Do you believe Christ rose from the dead.

The Immortal cell system is electric. That is why those that have that cell system are a "touch not". Just like uzah tried to touch the ARK and dropped dead, it was because off electricution.

Jesus told Thomas to put his fingers into his hands. There is no mention of Thomas being electricuted.

One could also drop dead from touching a strong acid or poison or from nuclear radiation. But that does not prove that ark was covered in acid or poison or emitted nuclear radiation. Nor does your theory prove the ark emitted electricity. The Bible says God struck Uzzah.

Also, the ark was overlaid with gold as were the poles used to carry it. Gold is a better conductor of electricity than copper (preferred for its price). So how would the Levites avoid being shocked in this materialistic naturalistic theory of yours?

The Man running his race to jericho is a touch not, for he is a transformer, and you should not touch a transformer because of the dangers of electricution. He can light a neghborhood, a town, a city, a country, a world.

Almost random stream of consciousness, here.

 

[phil36]

Do you know that Abraham was rich. Abraham was unbelievably wealthy. Did he not walk the right path? The path that is broad, is the path that says: Believe that Jesus His Pre-Eminence died on the cross for your sins, and resurrected from the dead, and ascended and is now seated at the right hand of the father", and confess HIS lordship over your life, and ye shall receive the Holy Spirit". This is the broad way.Why?
Because everyone who does that, dies in this earth, detatches from their physical body, goes to Abrahams Bosom where they will wait for the resurrection. And many there go in there at.

The narrow path, the strait gate, is the immortalization of your body in life alive. And that path leads to ever lasting life. And there be few than find it.

This is blasphemy and heretical. Time for you to stop.

 

[kaylagrl]

Oh really? Then why does HE say: Seek ye first the kingdom of GOD and HIS rightouesness and all these shall be added unto you?
Notice, the seek is first?

What does it mean to seek? What does it mean to ask? what does it mean to knock? Enoch, knocked
Compare to:For thine is the kingdom, the Power and the Glory, forever and ever.


Seek the kingdom, ask the power, knock for the glory.

What is that power? It is that you immortalise in life. It is not that you resurrect from the dead. All people are resurrected that were in the ghost world as was written in rev 20.

Jesus His Pre-Eminence said to the Apostles, that they have asked nothing in HIS name. And HE said:

24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.

What is that joy that may be full that HE is speaking of?

You are among them that will realise, that you did not hear the voice of Jesus His Pre-Eminence. You follow after saul, and you shall have his reward.

Soooo many people have come here just like you with some odd revelation they swear is the right one. Everyone else is wrong. The joy is salvation, the joy is eternal life. Again, you're way out in left field. But whatever you want to believe, have at it. But nothing in the Bible backs anything you are saying. If it did that means everyone who died in OT times were lost. No sense, not a lick of it. But hey, do you.

 

[Yahcubs777]

Do you think the Supernatural body, the glorified body has anus? Do you think that you will still go to the toilet?

I have no opinion on this matter. We think of going to the toilet as gross, so it does not sound heavenly to us. We do know that Jesus ate fish. Presumably, he has a mouth. Whether He had a stomach after the resurrection would be a matter of speculation. But I am not going to post long posts about Jesus not having a stomach based on... a buch of hot air... or ridiculous allegorical interpretations. You have not presented yourself as being very credible. I get a similar feel off of your posts as what I got off of posts from someone on another forum trying to promote Enckanckar, and of your they do not make sense.



New stomach does not equal no stomach.



I have not seen Christ with my physical eyes. Some people have had visions. That's great. Romans 8 also speaks of hoping for what we do not see.

What do you base your posts on? Do you claim to have seen Christ? I do not mean to goad you into saying 'yes' if you have not. If you have not, it is okay to say that you have not.



Yes. As far as I know, there was no animal or person raised from the dead in the ark of Noah, and all those raised from the dead before Christ were revived back to a normal mortal state. Do you believe Christ rose from the dead.



Jesus told Thomas to put his fingers into his hands. There is no mention of Thomas being electricuted.

One could also drop dead from touching a strong acid or poison or from nuclear radiation. But that does not prove that ark was covered in acid or poison or emitted nuclear radiation. Nor does your theory prove the ark emitted electricity. The Bible says God struck Uzzah.

Also, the ark was overlaid with gold as were the poles used to carry it. Gold is a better conductor of electricity than copper (preferred for its price). So how would the Levites avoid being shocked in this materialistic naturalistic theory of yours?



Almost random stream of consciousness, here.[/QUOTE]

There is also no reference to their being holes in HIS hands.

The reason why Uzzah died, was because he tried to help the ARK but was not supposed to. But his death was pointing to those that are a touch not.

You have not seen HIM? But you are there with HIM? Some have had visions? LOL Do you not understand what it means to be there with HIM? Its not just a belief, are you there with HIM or not? Or is the verse not speaking the truth?

 

[Yahcubs777]

This is blasphemy and heretical. Time for you to stop.

It is not, it is the truth. The hereticals are those that ate the leaven of the pharisee. You haven't realised yet, your apostle saul paul is a pharisee/

 

[Yahcubs777]

Soooo many people have come here just like you with some odd revelation they swear is the right one. Everyone else is wrong. The joy is salvation, the joy is eternal life. Again, you're way out in left field. But whatever you want to believe, have at it. But nothing in the Bible backs anything you are saying. If it did that means everyone who died in OT times were lost. No sense, not a lick of it. But hey, do you.

The joy is ever lasting life, which is immortalisation in life. Those who died in the OT are in Abrahams Bosom (those that were not resurrected), and will be resurrected. None were lost. And those that did not immortalise in life, will join them there.

 

[KingdomBrat]

It is not, it is the truth. The hereticals are those that ate the leaven of the pharisee. You haven't realised yet, your apostle saul paul is a pharisee/

You are a Deceiver!

 

[Yahcubs777]

You are a Deceiver!

Jesus His Pre-Eminence said: For many shall come in my name saying "I am christ" and shall deceive many.
The people preaching from the bible, that do not have any revelations, that do not hear from GOD directly, that were not sent to preach, are the deceivers. That is what Jesus His Pre-Eminence is saying here.

For many shall come in my name saying: I am Christ - meaning that Jesus His Pre-Eminence is Christ.

Question:
1. Have i claimed to come in HIS name?
2. have i claimed to be a Prophet?
3. have i claimed to hear from HIM directly?
4. Have i claimed that i was sent to preach?

None of these have i claimed, yet I am the deceiver?

 

[Nehemiah6]

Soooo many people have come here just like you with some odd revelation they swear is the right one. Everyone else is wrong. The joy is salvation, the joy is eternal life. Again, you're way out in left field. But whatever you want to believe, have at it. But nothing in the Bible backs anything you are saying. If it did that means everyone who died in OT times were lost. No sense, not a lick of it. But hey, do you.

Agreed. It is amazing how many show up with some strange winds of doctrine, and are under the delusion that they have discovered something new. But they are either trolls or minions of Satan, sent to undermine the faith of those who may not be properly or fully grounded in the word of God.

Take the title of this thread: "Would God Have us Solve Confusion of baptisms?" There is only confusion among those who hold to false doctrines concerning baptism. The majority of genuine Christians know that the baptism with the Holy Spirit (which results in the New Birth) must be followed by Christian baptism, as clearly revealed in Scripture.

 

[Yahcubs777]

I have no opinion on this matter. We think of going to the toilet as gross, so it does not sound heavenly to us. We do know that Jesus ate fish. Presumably, he has a mouth. Whether He had a stomach after the resurrection would be a matter of speculation. But I am not going to post long posts about Jesus not having a stomach based on... a buch of hot air... or ridiculous allegorical interpretations. You have not presented yourself as being very credible. I get a similar feel off of your posts as what I got off of posts from someone on another forum trying to promote Enckanckar, and of your they do not make sense.



New stomach does not equal no stomach.



I have not seen Christ with my physical eyes. Some people have had visions. That's great. Romans 8 also speaks of hoping for what we do not see.

What do you base your posts on? Do you claim to have seen Christ? I do not mean to goad you into saying 'yes' if you have not. If you have not, it is okay to say that you have not.



Yes. As far as I know, there was no animal or person raised from the dead in the ark of Noah, and all those raised from the dead before Christ were revived back to a normal mortal state. Do you believe Christ rose from the dead.



Jesus told Thomas to put his fingers into his hands. There is no mention of Thomas being electricuted.

One could also drop dead from touching a strong acid or poison or from nuclear radiation. But that does not prove that ark was covered in acid or poison or emitted nuclear radiation. Nor does your theory prove the ark emitted electricity. The Bible says God struck Uzzah.

Also, the ark was overlaid with gold as were the poles used to carry it. Gold is a better conductor of electricity than copper (preferred for its price). So how would the Levites avoid being shocked in this materialistic naturalistic theory of yours?



Almost random stream of consciousness, here.

Yes, Jesus His Pre-Eminence, who is the GOD in HIS incarnate Manifestation, was crucified, and resurrected HIMSELF, and ascended back to GOD the Father whom HE proceeded from. The one that is now sitted on the right hand of the father, is the Son of GOD, Adam, who Jesus His Pre-Eminence bailed out of hell and resurrected, and restored to his former glory.

 

[KingdomBrat]

Jesus His Pre-Eminence said: For many shall come in my name saying "I am christ" and shall deceive many.
The people preaching from the bible, that do not have any revelations, that do not hear from GOD directly, that were not sent to preach, are the deceivers. That is what Jesus His Pre-Eminence is saying here.

For many shall come in my name saying: I am Christ - meaning that Jesus His Pre-Eminence is Christ.

Question:
1. Have i claimed to come in HIS name?
2. have i claimed to be a Prophet?
3. have i claimed to hear from HIM directly?
4. Have i claimed that i was sent to preach?

None of these have i claimed, yet I am the deceiver?

You claim to bring a [Revelation]. Only true revelations come from God. By proxy, to claim you're here to give us a [message], you've illuminated you are coming to others on behalf of God.