I believe thread post #1 makes this clear:
No gentiles has ever been under Mosaic law. Neither has any NT believer ever been under the Covenant made at Sinai.
OP doesn't claim there isn't a sovereign creator God, or no right & wrong actions. Adam wasn't under Mosaic coventant laws, yet, he knowingly transgressed/sinned against God's law.
Again, as stated in post #1:
In the book of Exodus it's Israel ONLY! That agrees with & enters into, the Mosaic law covenant on Mt Sinai, NO GENTILES.
OP post #1, Verses: Eph 2:12, Rom 2:14 & Acts 15:1,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,23 & most notably Vs 24. Confirm gentiles were never under the Mosaic law covenant.
Regarding content in your reply:
“For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
(MY REPLY: Here you agree many have sinned without being under Mosaic law)
For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness,
(MY REPLY: Here you agree Gentiles have not the Mosaic law)
and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
(MY REPLY: This suggest it's thoughts/conscience (void if Mosaic law) that's accusing or excusing)
In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.”
Romans 2:12, 14-16
(MY REPLY: This thread in no way disagrees or argues against these verses)
we aren’t judged by the law we are condemned by it , we’re judged by Jesus and the gospel.
(MY REPLY: Which is it? we're Judged by the law or we’re judged by Jesus the gospel of Jesus the Christ?)
Paul’s saying , when someone commits adultery , they lie and cover it up because they understand it is sin , hiding it shows the law on their conscience . Murderers hide and flee because they understand they have broken the law doesn’t matter if they had a covenant saying “ do not kill” their conscience proves they are under the same law
(MY REPLY: I disagree, there are laws & there is the Mosaic law covenant, NOT the same.
when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
(MY REPLY: Here again, you agree Gentiles have not Mosaic law)
Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness,
(MY REPLY: Void of being under Mosaic law, people have a conscience & for the most part, by adulthood have a good moral understanding between right & wrong)
Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness,
(MY REPLY:
Rom 2:
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
(MY NOTE: You post verses in support of the thread??? Vs 14 gentiles WHICH DON'T HAVE THE LAW!!! HAVING NOT THE LAW!!!. 2ndly Rom is written to believers (Rom 1:7) Believers have the new covenant laws written on their heart by Christs indwelling Holy Spirit)
“The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.
(MY REPLY: This verse is from God's rainbow covenant with Noah Gen 9:16 & not applicable to the Mosaic law covenant)
Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.”
Isaiah 24:5-6 KJV
(MY REPLY: Isa is a Jewish prophet under Mosaic law. The curse mentioned here is levied in Duet 28:15-60 under the Mosaic Covenant made at Sinai)
