ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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Kojikun said:
I wouldn't be surprised if that happened soon or inevitably. I do believe in the end times I'm just not quick to jump on the bandwagon until I'll looked into myself. I've bought into too many hoaxes in the last decade and it has very much diminished my trust in any evangelical news source (CBN especially although I do appreciate there work in the spreading the word.)
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I think that is a fair and wise assessment.

You would be what is called an honest skeptic. At the end of the day, it is certainly possible that those that believe as I do could be wrong.

The ONLY thing I'd go to the mat for, and NEVER compromise is the Gospel unto Salvation.

Having said that, I'd bet my physical life (not eternal life) that we are more right than wrong on this whole Virus/vaccine issue.
 
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Kojikun said:
Do you have proof?
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Yes there is overwhelming proof. But you should research this for yourself. Examine all the mainstream media comments since early 2020, and then check out all the actual studies done and published.

The attacks on HCQ were also designed to discredit Trump. Now that he has been fraudulently ousted, the American Journal of Medicine has decided to publish the truth. In the meantime, hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily.

The American Journal Of Medicine Now Recommends HCQ For COVID19
Read the full study at www.sciencedirect.com
 
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ChoirLoft said:
I never implied wrote or accused anyone of devil worship on Sunday.
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ChoirLoft said:
The 4th commandment says that Saturday, not Sunday is the day God wants worship to be performed. Those who are in lock step with Roman Catholic demonic powers absolutely refuse to acknowledge God's Word. Instead they twist the Word to their own desire, proving themselves to be disciples of wickedness rather than God.
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What exactly is a "disciple of wickedness" if not some sort of devil worshiper?

You need help, man. I'd recommend you get with some family member or someone you totally trust. And take whatever advise they give you. You might need to check into some sort of facility or something.

We had a guy in our neighborhood who was totally crazy. He would sit beside the road and laugh and wave at all the cars, and then flip some of them off...for no reason. I think he was basically harmless, but I kind of feared for him. Anyway, he did go get some help and he's moved away and is actually normal now. You're a bit off, but you're not totally whacked like that guy was. So if he could get help, then I'm sure you can also.
 
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Kojikun said:
Couldn't tell you. Its getting harder and harder to know what to believe now. I'm to point of ignore news in general 🤷‍♂️ are the numbers fudged? Possibly. But I've had several friends who have had covid and my sister is a nurse. There is no doubt that there is indeed a virus even if it's not as bad as the news says.
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Out of interest, did your friends who had Covid also have the flu vaccination? There is a link between serious "Covid" and flu vaccination.
 
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Moses_Young said:
Out of interest, did your friends who had Covid also have the flu vaccination? There is a link between serious "Covid" and flu vaccination.
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Not sure. Its possible, I have a few friends who had gotten it. I got my flu shot, but that's only because I've been in and out of the clinics lately.
 
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You can print all the conspiracies that you wish.

Here almost 80% of those over 65 have been vaccinated. There have been no serious side effects, or complications. The most serious thing reported was a brief headache about 12 hours after the second shot. It lasted less than 24 hours. The results of the vaccinations are remarkable. While the incidence of covid19 has increased among those under 65, it has been virtually eliminated.
 
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Billyd said:
You can print all the conspiracies that you wish.

Here almost 80% of those over 65 have been vaccinated. There have been no serious side effects, or complications. The most serious thing reported was a brief headache about 12 hours after the second shot. It lasted less than 24 hours. The results of the vaccinations are remarkable. While the incidence of covid19 has increased among those under 65, it has been virtually eliminated.
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Yes it is fantastic. Not one person who has been vaccinated has died of COVID 19 so it is 100% effective against COVID19 mortality.
 
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Yes it is fantastic. Not one person who has been vaccinated has died of COVID 19 so it is 100% effective against COVID19 mortality.
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The problem is that people are deceived by the play of words in the media. The media are giving the impression that vaccine is the 'game changer' and the solution. If you listen, read carefully and critically evaluated what is being said. You will understand that the goal of vaccine is not a cure the plague covid19. It is too reduce severe disease and prevent hospitalisation. That is all, so everyone will be asymptomatic carrier of the virus. And sad thing is people are under fasle impression. Which leads me to make the conclusion, that this pandemic is staged and most were deceived by false information and reacted to it.
 
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The problem is that people are deceived by the play of words in the media. The media are giving the impression that vaccine is the 'game changer' and the solution. If you listen, read carefully and critically evaluated what is being said. You will understand that the goal of vaccine is not a cure the plague covid19. It is too reduce severe disease and prevent hospitalisation. That is all, so everyone will be asymptomatic carrier of the virus. And sad thing is people are under fasle impression. Which leads me to make the conclusion, that this pandemic is staged and most were deceived by false information and reacted to it.
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The vaccine dosage causes your own immune system to create antibodies that are effective in defeating the virus from invading your cells and multiplying by the millions and billions. This results in keeping people from getting seriously ill and dying.

I don't think anyone really cares if the virus can get in the nose but not win against the bodies immune system to penetrate the blood system and so we might pass it from one to another by sneezing but those that are vaccinated will not let it get beyond the nasal mucus lining beachfront of attack.

That is a win. It should not be turned into a negative spin by those unwilling to conceded that a vaccine can be safe and effective. Lets not be the ones spinning falsehood while accusing the media of doing the same. The science is what matters. The media is not where we get scientific facts. Let us not talk about critical thinking skills and then not use them while inventing negative spins that support our own antivaccine bias.
 
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The vaccine dosage causes your own immune system to create antibodies that are effective in defeating the virus from invading your cells and multiplying by the millions and billions. This results in keeping people from getting seriously ill and dying.

I don't think anyone really cares if the virus can get in the nose but not win against the bodies immune system to penetrate the blood system and so we might pass it from one to another by sneezing but those that are vaccinated will not let it get beyond the nasal mucus lining beachfront of attack.

That is a win. It should not be turned into a negative spin by those unwilling to conceded that a vaccine can be safe and effective. Lets not be the ones spinning falsehood while accusing the media of doing the same. The science is what matters. The media is not where we get scientific facts. Let us not talk about critical thinking skills and then not use them while inventing negative spins that support our own antivaccine bias.
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the vaccine is so effective that we still have to wear masks and social distance after getting it.

yep. very effective.
 
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gb9 said:
the vaccine is so effective that we still have to wear masks and social distance after getting it.

yep. very effective.
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You will be hearing more announcements that after the prescribed time for the vaccines to work it is safe to go back to life as normal.
The 345 Million vaccinated has given us a lot of scientific data to trust in. The what ifs and unknowns have become known now.

It may be true that the virus can get in the mucus lining of the nose from one vaccinated person sneezing and another vaccinated person breathing it in but we are now able to say for sure that it will be defeated by the antibodies that the vaccinated person has before it can invade the blood and reproduce and make them seriously ill.

So therefore it really won't matter that a vaccinated person can get it up his/her nose and pass it by sneezing, the answer is "get vaccinated" or take your chances getting it from a sneeze, we are done with masks and your on your own if you don't want to get vaccinated.

There is a point in which society is not going to wear a mask to protect the unvaccinated. That is what it comes down to.

If I am vaccinated should I care if I can sneeze and spread those droplets that got in my nose from an infected person? No, not really. Get vaccinated, I am done with masks.
 
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You will be hearing more announcements that after the prescribed time for the vaccines to work it is safe to go back to life as normal.
The 345 Million vaccinated has given us a lot of scientific data to trust in. The what ifs and unknowns have become known now.

It may be true that the virus can get in the mucus lining of the nose from one vaccinated person sneezing and another vaccinated person breathing it in but we are now able to say for sure that it will be defeated by the antibodies that the vaccinated person has before it can invade the blood and reproduce and make them seriously ill.

So therefore it really won't matter that a vaccinated person can get it up his/her nose and pass it by sneezing, the answer is "get vaccinated" or take your chances getting it from a sneeze, we are done with masks and your on your own if you don't want to get vaccinated.

There is a point in which society is not going to wear a mask to protect the unvaccinated. That is what it comes down to.

If I am vaccinated should I care if I can sneeze and spread those droplets that got in my nose from an infected person? No, not really. Get vaccinated, I am done with masks.
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well. since i have a strong immune system, i need neither mask or vax.

the vaccine and the virus are all about gov. control and the great reset. you have fallen for the hoax. i have not and will not.
 
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gb9 said:
well. since i have a strong immune system, i need neither mask or vax.

the vaccine and the virus are all about gov. control and the great reset. you have fallen for the hoax. i have not and will not.
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People really have no idea what their immune systems look like. That is just hopeful and wishful thinking. We don't know whether there is a virus that we have no antibodies for. Every once in a while one shows up that NO one has an antibody for. One can show up that kills 90% of hosts in a few days. Usually the survivors had a mutated variant that was not quite as deadly. When one of those ever gets ariborn and spreads across the world even the antivaxxers will be praying for a vaccine.

Many people do not get sick from diseases that were common a hundred years ago because of vaccines. They can give their immune system credit if they have been vaccinated but if not they should be thanking all those who have and that is why the virus has been stamped out, for lack of hosts. Unvaccinated people have the vaccinated to thank for them not getting diseases that use to be common, not their own immune system. How ungrateful and self deluded.
 
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People really have no idea what their immune systems look like. That is just hopeful and wishful thinking. We don't know whether there is a virus that we have no antibodies for. Every once in a while one shows up that NO one has an antibody for. One can show up that kills 90% of hosts in a few days. Usually the survivors had a mutated variant that was not quite as deadly. When one of those ever gets ariborn and spreads across the world even the antivaxxers will be praying for a vaccine.

Many people do not get sick from diseases that were common a hundred years ago because of vaccines. They can give their immune system credit if they have been vaccinated but if not they should be thanking all those who have and that is why the virus has been stamped out, for lack of hosts. Unvaccinated people have the vaccinated to thank for them not getting diseases that use to be common, not their own immune system. How ungrateful and self deluded.
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and now we are back to - this sudden non-sense that the human immune system has nothing to do with not contracting a virus.

i know the canadian gov. made this ridiculous statement, but then again, trudeau is on record praising the great reset and the the chinese government, so there is that.

need i remind you that medical studies show that vitamin d deficiency was found in over half of people who contracted covid.

trust the science right?

the science says the immune system matters
 
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gb9 said:
and now we are back to - this sudden non-sense that the human immune system has nothing to do with not contracting a virus.

i know the canadian gov. made this ridiculous statement, but then again, trudeau is on record praising the great reset and the the chinese government, so there is that.

need i remind you that medical studies show that vitamin d deficiency was found in over half of people who contracted covid.

trust the science right?

the science says the immune system matters
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Of course it matters. Which is why vaccines are so effective. They cause your own immune system to create antibodies to defeat the virus. Not everyone's immune system was able to defeat it. 530 million in the US did not have a good enough immune reaction. The vaccines have been 100% effective in that not a single person has died from COVID19 once vaccinated. I really did not expect that level of success. I think it is wonderful don't you? Vitamin D is a good supplement to take according to Harvard Medical School research, but it will not produce 100% reduction of COVID19 hospitalizations and deaths. The vaccine does.
 
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Of course it matters. Which is why vaccines are so effective. They cause your own immune system to create antibodies to defeat the virus. Not everyone's immune system was able to defeat it. 530 million in the US did not have a good enough immune reaction. The vaccines have been 100% effective in that not a single person has died from COVID19 once vaccinated. I really did not expect that level of success. I think it is wonderful don't you? Vitamin D is a good supplement to take according to Harvard Medical School research, but it will not produce 100% reduction of COVID19 hospitalizations and deaths. The vaccine does.
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oops... CORRECTION "530 THOUSAND in the US did not have a good enough immune reaction" And thank God for vaccines it will never reach 530 Million in years to come.
 
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Runningman said:
You mean the Johnson and Johnson vaccine derived from aborted human embryo stem cell lines?
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Don't take that one. Ethical dilemma resolved.

There are others to choose from. There are more coming to market as well. mRNA vaccines don't use any cells for development. There are others coming out, (now in third phase testing) that used ethically derived cells in development. Even one that used Moth cells.

I do appreciate your accuracy in describing them as "derived from aborted human embryo stem cell lines" That makes me respect your opinion and listen to what else you have to say. Those that say dumb things like 'the vaccines injects fetal cells into you' I stop listening to as they are not capable of intelligent conversation on the subject.
 
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