Is the Holy Spirit showing us God can be anywhere and everywhere at the same time (Omnipresent|Omniscient)?

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The reason we can't see God the Father is because He is in a higher dimension than what we can perceive. Christ is His representation for these lower dimensions. The plan and design are handed to Christ and He makes them happen with the Word.

So how does the Holy Spirit fit in? I get the Holy Spirit is in us, but I think the Spirit may be more involved than that. Like connected to matter and waves. Or maybe something to do with Time. Did the Holy Spirit take the Word from Christ and turn it into what we have right now?

Is the Holy Spirit known for Power and Love? Is the Holy Spirit about mind and heart?

Is the Holy Spirit the Universal Wave and Universal Observer? Does the Holy Spirit cause wave collapse/physicality?

The Holy Spirit creator:​
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30 Thou sendest forth thy Spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth. (Psalm 104:30 KJV)​
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The Triune God, the one that spoke and commanded, the Word/Son of God made the universe and by the Holy Spirit (breath of God) too:​
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6 By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. 7 He gathereth the waters of the sea together as an heap: he layeth up the depth in storehouses. 8 Let all the earth fear the LORD: let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him. 9 For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast.​
(Psalm 33:6-9 KJV)​
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1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.​
(Genesis 1:1-3 KJV)​
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Does the Holy Spirit originate from more dimensions than we can perceive like the Father?

We know the Holy Spirit to be: Comforter, the source of all things, light, hope, peace, true Godly Love, forgiveness mercy and truth.​
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If Love is Entanglement, then The Holy Spirit is partially the Quantum Fields. An Universal Observer would be using the Quantum Fields.

2 Corinthians 4:18​
For the things which are seen are temporal, but the things which are not seen are eternal.​

Quantum Waves are not seen. There is an entire side to our reality that is virtual ..unseen.

Is there something to the Holy Spirit being a Ghost in the virtual side of reality?

Is there a preexisting network for the Holy Spirit to traverse? In Quantum Mechanics it is called all possible paths. It is basically the Electromagnetic vector field ..what Light uses to propagate. I don't think it is a coincidence that we describe God as Light. I think this networks is directly tied to omnipresence.

The Ghost has the option to be everywhere at the same time if the Spirit wants. That's what all possible paths of the Electromagnetic vector field are about.

I don't know why I wasn't considering the Holy Ghost to be an actual Ghost. This one is extremely special.

Doesn't omnipresence sound like something the Holy Spirit would handle? A part of Him to report to God the Father who in another dimension?
 
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What I love about the Bible is that it shows us clearly the Viewpoint of a Triune God and a Singular God all being the Same God.

Here's my perfect example.

Yeshua [Jesus] (Almighty God the WORD) said, "if 2 or more people who believe/accepted/follow/ Christ are together that HE is in the midst.

Now, how is that possible if we're full of the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is [separate] from Jesus?
Wouldn't us being filled with the Holy Spirit when we gather have the Holy Spirit in the midst?
But Jesus said, it is HIM in the midst.

How does Holy Spirit + Holy Spirit + Holy Spirit = Jesus, if the Holy Spirit and Jesus are different people?

Even though I am Triune in view, I feel the trinity concept lacks badly at times!
 
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It would mean you have the Holy Spirit and Jesus present. Even more attention from God?
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
It would mean you have the Holy Spirit and Jesus present. Even more attention from God?
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I disagree.
There are many examples of where Christ and the Holy Spirit connect.
Holy Spirit plants seed of God into Mary's womb = baby Jesus
Holy Spirit inside Believers gathered together = Jesus
Paul said when we accept God we accept the Spirit of Christ into our hearts where God lives. Paul here is calling the Holy Spirit the Spirit of Christ.
Oh, now that has some interesting conclusions!
 
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God is all possible paths of causality. All possible paths are required for unobserved waves to display an interference pattern. All paths are virtually used at the same time. We know this because we get the pattern even when sending individual unobserved waves. Interference is proof of God because it is omnipresent.

We can't detect God the Father because He is outside our 3 spatial dimensions. We can detect the Holy Spirit with interference patterns. An interference pattern can only appear if something virtual happened ..something that we don't consider real. If there are waves outside of our reality, consider what else could be.
 
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"Is the Holy Spirit showing us God can be anywhere and everywhere at the same time (Omnipresent|Omniscient)?"

If the Lord is in control of all things, this means that He is aware of all things. Nothing [is] outside of the Power and Control of our Lord God Almighty.
 
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2ndTimothyGroup said:
"Is the Holy Spirit showing us God can be anywhere and everywhere at the same time (Omnipresent|Omniscient)?"

If the Lord is in control of all things, this means that He is aware of all things. Nothing [is] outside of the Power and Control of our Lord God Almighty.
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I'm saying it's time we give the Holy Spirit proper credentials.
 
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When Jesus was bestowed the Holy Spirit at His baptism ..is that when He held every sin ever?
 
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interesting perspective.

Jesus provides I think the greatest insight on the Holy Spirit in the gospel of John chapter 14 Thu 16.

The divine nature of God is seen two ways by His Creation and His word.

The Holy Spirit is eternal and is God because He is the Spirit of the Living God. The Holy Spirit is not a"force" The Spirit of God is God.

As God is all present, the Holy Spirit can be near or come alongside one to help. Has God is all-knowing the Holy Spirit knows Truth and lead us into it. As God is the Speaking God, the Holy Spirit speaks the word of God and brings into our remembrance all that the Word has said.

The Holy Spirit is:
  1. Near and in the Believer
  2. Empowers the believer, "Christian"
  3. knows the mind of God
  4. Convicts the world of sin
  5. His presence can be felt
  6. His effects can be seen in John 3:8
  7. He is Truth
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
When Jesus was bestowed the Holy Spirit at His baptism ..is that when He held every sin ever?
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The Bible doesn't seem to indicate this. Jesus BECAME a Curse for us, meaning that as He hung on the Cross, he took the Curse of Adam and Eve upon His shoulders (for those who belong to Him, which is all that the Father would give to Him.) It was only when Jesus became Cursed that He was separated from God, the Father, for there can be no sin in the Father, God.
 
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2ndTimothyGroup said:
The Bible doesn't seem to indicate this. Jesus BECAME a Curse for us, meaning that as He hung on the Cross, he took the Curse of Adam and Eve upon His shoulders (for those who belong to Him, which is all that the Father would give to Him.) It was only when Jesus became Cursed that He was separated from God, the Father, for there can be no sin in the Father, God.
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hmm, good points, "He made Him to be sin" is a verse I like to bring up a lot. I know the baptism was fulfilling prophecy, but I want to know if more happened with two of the Holy Trinity combining on earth.
 
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interesting perspective.

Jesus provides I think the greatest insight on the Holy Spirit in the gospel of John chapter 14 Thu 16.

The divine nature of God is seen two ways by His Creation and His word.

The Holy Spirit is eternal and is God because He is the Spirit of the Living God. The Holy Spirit is not a"force" The Spirit of God is God.

As God is all present, the Holy Spirit can be near or come alongside one to help. Has God is all-knowing the Holy Spirit knows Truth and lead us into it. As God is the Speaking God, the Holy Spirit speaks the word of God and brings into our remembrance all that the Word has said.

The Holy Spirit is:
  1. Near and in the Believer
  2. Empowers the believer, "Christian"
  3. knows the mind of God
  4. Convicts the world of sin
  5. His presence can be felt
  6. His effects can be seen in John 3:8
  7. He is Truth
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You are saying the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of God are different?
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
You are saying the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of God are different?
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Not sure of whom you are writing, but one thing that confuses many Bible readers is that there are MANY Spirits that are from God. In fact, all Spirits were created by God, so . . . that convolutes the discussion. For example, when a Spirit from the Lord replaced the Holy Spirit that was upon king Saul . . . who is that evil Spirit? That Spirit is from the Lord . . . so can it be Satan? It could be, but more than likely, it is the name of an alternate Spirit that traditional Bibles do not convey.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
You are saying the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of God are different?
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No,

The Bible shows us different names for the same Person who has many Attributes.
 
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Wait, could "He made Him to be sin" mean He was able to interact with this fallen place? Did He need the Holy Spirit to take all sins onto the cross? Is there something that says the sins were only activated on the cross?
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
Wait, could "He made Him to be sin" mean He was able to interact with this fallen place? Did He need the Holy Spirit to take all sins onto the cross? Is there something that says the sins were only activated on the cross?
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You might want to study the doctrine of Kenosis. Jesus fully walked in the Spirit and relied on the Holy Spirit while on the earth.
Jesus said I do nothing of my own.
 
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CS1 said:
Yu mig


You might want to study the doctrine of Kenosis. Jesus fully walked in the Spirit and relied on the Holy Spirit while on the earth.
Jesus said I do nothing of my own.
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Jesus as a man was connected to the Holy Spirit before baptism?
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
Wait, could "He made Him to be sin" mean He was able to interact with this fallen place? Did He need the Holy Spirit to take all sins onto the cross? Is there something that says the sins were only activated on the cross?
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Sorry boss . . . I just don't see that these questions are relevant to the Gospel of Christ. I'm not sure of what you mean by sin being activated on the cross. What I would say about sin being activated is this: It was the Laws of Moses, and later the Moral Law that was written upon all peoples hearts . . . it is "these" Laws that activate sin. See below:

Romans 7:7 NIV - "What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, "You shall not covet."

This is why the words "curse of the Law" were written, for the Law itself is not a Curse, but it sure seems to be.

Galatians 3:13 NIV - "Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole."

The reality of things is that those who try to obtain Purity through the Law, they do so [BECAUSE] they are Cursed, meaning, these people were suffering from not only the Curse of Adam and Eve, but the Jews were placed under an additional layer of "sleep." All people who have not received the Circumcision of Christ remain cursed.

Galatians 3:10 NIV - "For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."

The additional layer of sleep reference:

Isaiah 29:10 KJV - "For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered."

Paul references Isa 29:10, but applies this "sleep" to more than just the prophets and seers, but to all Israel as well.

Romans 11:7-8 NLT - "So this is the situation: Most of the people of Israel have not found the favor of God they are looking for so earnestly. A few have--the ones God has chosen--but the hearts of the rest were hardened. As the Scriptures say, "God has put them into a deep sleep. To this day he has shut their eyes so they do not see, and closed their ears so they do not hear."
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
I'm saying it's time we give the Holy Spirit proper credentials.
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The word says the "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. "

To make it silly and simple like looking at a road sign pointing one way saying only one way. Now you can sit at that sign all you want. He points to Christ and the Father period. Jesus should be a great example. Everything Christ said was not of himself but the Father. The sweet holy Spirit will not speak on His own authority but whatever He hears He will speak. Aka your talking to God. It was Christ that went to the Cross filed with the holy Spirit. Luke 11 13 and the same spirit that fell on 120 and everyone else that asks the Father.

To make Him into something He is not is very unwise.
 
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