When Has God Gathered After He Scattered Without Any Repentance?

[eternally-gratefull]

People can provide scripture to you, but you decide how you want to interpret them to fit whatever doctrine you want to have.

Which is exactly what you do

Do yourself a favor. Don't come at people with the same argument that can be used against you. It makes you look desperate. because you have nothingn nelse to say.

Just trying to help you

You have been provided much scripture also. Which proves no one was aved by the law. and proves even abraham was saved by grace through faith.

So practice what you preach to others, Because thats why most people stop responding to you.

 

[Guojing]

Which is exactly what you do

Do yourself a favor. Don't come at people with the same argument that can be used against you. It makes you look desperate. because you have nothingn nelse to say.

Just trying to help you

You have been provided much scripture also. Which proves no one was aved by the law. and proves even abraham was saved by grace through faith.

So practice what you preach to others, Because thats why most people stop responding to you.

I never said anyone was saved by the Law.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I never said anyone was saved by the Law.

then how were they saved? How could they lose salvation?

You keep saying they had their way. There was way the law. Its all they had man.

You contradict yourself

 

[Guojing]

then how were they saved? How could they lose salvation?

You keep saying they had their way. There was way the law. Its all they had man.

You contradict yourself

Do you mean Israel the nation, or individual Jews?

Do you mean before Israel felll, or now?

If you want to understand my doctrine, you have to be more specific in your questions

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Do you mean Israel the nation, or individual Jews?

Do you mean before Israel felll, or now?

If you want to understand my doctrine, you have to be more specific in your questions

see how you deflect.

You know what I mean

How was abraham saved

How was David saved

How was Isaiah saved

How was Jacob saved

How was mary, who called Jesus her savior, saved

How was Noah saved

How was Adam saved

What did they do to become saved, and keep from losing salvation?

 

[Journeyman]

We have just begun to see the birth pangs. It will get worse. You best be prepared for what is to come. Preach the gospel. So people can be saved, because one it really starts. it will be too late for many

Actually, the "birth pangs" began with Eve, none worse than what was done to our Lord Jesus. We begin seeing them when we come to know the Lord.

 

[Guojing]

see how you deflect.

You know what I mean

How was abraham saved

How was David saved

How was Isaiah saved

How was Jacob saved

How was mary, who called Jesus her savior, saved

How was Noah saved

How was Adam saved

What did they do to become saved, and keep from losing salvation?

As I already said to you, None of them have the present salvation that we have in the body of Christ.

They are all waiting to receive their salvation at the 2nd return of Christ.

In the meantime, they are placed in Abraham bosom/paradise by showing faith in obeying what God commanded them to do.

That is my answer to your question.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Actually, the "birth pangs" began with Eve, none worse than what was done to our Lord Jesus. We begin seeing them when we come to know the Lord.

lol. Jesus said they were future

I will take what Jesus said if thats ok

Birth pangs are labor pains. They signal that the end of the pregnance is about to come

Birth pangs also start out slowly, and are weak in the beginning They exponentially get closer and closer together and more painful or more powerful (anyone who has experienced or witnessed labor knows this, which is why Jesus used this example)

Jesus is saying those things he spoke of will like birth pangs get closer together and more severe as the end nears. And those alive should see it as a sign. But even when they negin, It is not the end yet

I do believe we are in this period. But it did not start 6000 years ago. It started less than 100 years ago. And has been getting worse especially n the last few decades.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

As I already said to you, None of them have the present salvation that we have in the body of Christ.

They are all waiting to receive their salvation at the 2nd return of Christ.

In the meantime, they are placed in Abraham bosom/paradise by showing faith in obeying what God commanded them to do.

That is my answer to your question.

So they, Like us, are awaiting the resurrection of their body?

Where do you think you will go when you fall asleep?

You did not answer my question of how they are saved. Answering when is not answering how.

 

[Guojing]

So they, Like us, are awaiting the resurrection of their body?

Where do you think you will go when you fall asleep?

You did not answer my question of how they are saved. Answering when is not answering how.

To put it simply, all those Jews born after the covenant of law was made with The Nation Israel in exodus 24, have to keep that covenant, this includes David, Moses etc

As long as they remain in the nation Israel throughout their lifespan, they will be placed in paradise at their deaths, to await Christ return to receive their salvation. (Luke 1:6)

For me in the body of Christ, I will go straight to heaven when I fall asleep.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

To put it simply, all those Jews born after the covenant of law was made with The Nation Israel, have to keep that covenant, this includes David, Moses etc

As long as they remain in the nation Israel throughout their lifespan, they will be placed in paradise at their deaths, to await Christ return to receive their salvation. (Luke 1:6)

For me in the body of Christ, I will go straight to heaven when I fall asleep.

Thank you

You just said they were saved by the law

Now try to call me a liar again.

 

[Guojing]

Thank you

You just said they were saved by the law

Now try to call me a liar again.

You like to jump the gun. Keeping the covenant of law is not equivalent to being saved by the law.

God commands Israel to keep the law, you show faith by obeying what he commanded.

The covenant of law has animal sacrifices whenever they sin. I even quoted for you Luke 1:6.

And relax, no one is calling you anything.

 

[Journeyman]

lol. Jesus said they were future

I will take what Jesus said if thats ok

Birth pangs are labor pains. They signal that the end of the pregnance is about to come

Birth pangs also start out slowly, and are weak in the beginning They exponentially get closer and closer together and more painful or more powerful (anyone who has experienced or witnessed labor knows this, which is why Jesus used this example)

Jesus is saying those things he spoke of will like birth pangs get closer together and more severe as the end nears. And those alive should see it as a sign. But even when they negin, It is not the end yet

I do believe we are in this period. But it did not start 6000 years ago. It started less than 100 years ago. And has been getting worse especially n the last few decades.

You'll think its less funny and understand Jesus's words better when you understand that believers are one in him.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You like to jump the gun. Keeping the covenant of law is not equivalent to being saved by the law.

God commands Israel to keep the law, you show faith by obeying what he commanded.

The covenant of law has animal sacrifices whenever they sin. I even quoted for you Luke 1:6.

And relax, no one is calling you anything. I don’t bother calling strangers over the internet anything that is negative.

I did nothing but quote what you said.

Your answer was that they were required to keep the covenant of the law.

Your words

have to keep that covenant, this includes David, Moses etc

Own up to what you say man.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You'll think its less funny and understand Jesus's words better when you understand that believers are one in him.

I never said believers are not one in him, What funny is you think I did. lol

You would be better to understand when you stop assuming you know what others believe because you were taught wrong.

There is no jew or gentile, free or slave, Male or female. All are one in christ. Starting with adam and finishing with the last person who will ever come to salvation through Ghrist.

 

[Guojing]

I did nothing but quote what you said.

Your answer was that they were required to keep the covenant of the law.

Your words

have to keep that covenant, this includes David, Moses etc

Own up to what you say man.

To remain in the nation Israel after exodus 24, yes they have to obey that covenant.

But that does not mean they are saved by the law. You keep insisting they are equivalent when I already said they are not.

Look I can explain my doctrine to you, but I cannot understand it for you.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

To remain in the nation Israel after exodus 24, yes they have to obey that covenant.

But that does not mean they are saved by the law. You keep insisting they are equivalent when I already said they are not.

Look I can explain my doctrine to you, but I cannot understand it for you.

I asked you how they were saved

You said they were required to keep the covenant of law

to be honest, I really believe you do not even know what you believe.

 

[Rosemaryx]

God can work in people's lives before they repent.

Yes , through His Holy Spirit...
When God called me , I never knew He was...
His Spirit brought me to the foot of the cross , I started reading my bible , I see how I had sinned against our heavenly Father , I was broken for months , I repented , I am not who I once was , Jesus saved me , I am now forgiven , and all the glory to God Amen...
...xox...

 

[kaylagrl]

No-body worships the Jews, we love the Jews ... why don't you? God says they are beloved.

We believe the prophecies concerning their restoration to favour. If all the prophecies concerning their fall came to pass then be sure the prophecies concerning their restoration will also come to pass.

And that's the tell tale sign isn't it? They have grace for every other sinner, even themselves when they were lost, but not the Jews.

 

[Guojing]

I asked you how they were saved

You said they were required to keep the covenant of law

to be honest, I really believe you do not even know what you believe.

They have to remain in Israel to be placed in paradise at their deaths, as I already stated.

For them not to be cut off from Israel, before Christ came, they had to obey the covenant of law.

I know what I believe, but you are just refusing to understand what I am saying.

Remember you can understand something even if you choose to disagree with it.