Jesus Fully God and Fully man - Chalcedon

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pittsburghjoe

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Heb 2:17,18 “For this reason he had to be made like his brothers in every way, in order that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to God, and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people. Because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.”

Heb 4:15 “For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are— yet was without sin.”

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eternally-gratefull

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Right, pretend this wasn't an attack.
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I just asked a question if you have been getting your answers? It was not an attack.

Why are you so angry? Its not me who is angry my friend. I have spoken to you by asking questions to try to determine what your looking for so I can understand better
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
Heb 2:17,18 “For this reason he had to be made like his brothers in every way, in order that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to God, and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people. Because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.”

Heb 4:15 “For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are— yet was without sin.”

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We are saved by the sacrifice of the blood of the lamb

Jesus was the lamb of God who took away the sins of the world

He also then became high priest to those who are saved.
 
pittsburghjoe

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eternally-gratefull said:
We are saved by the sacrifice of the blood of the lamb

Jesus was the lamb of God who took away the sins of the world

He also then became high priest to those who are saved.
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Is it a good guess that He became the High Priest at Baptism?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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pittsburghjoe said:
Is it a good guess that He became the High Priest at Baptism?
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he became our high priest when he rose from the dead, His temptation was lifelong,

Even Aaron was not high priest until after the sacrifice of the lamb. The washing of water was just part of it
 
pittsburghjoe

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eternally-gratefull said:
he became our high priest when he rose from the dead, His temptation was lifelong,

Even Aaron was not high priest until after the sacrifice of the lamb. The washing of water was just part of it
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Why does "High Priest" have to be after he rose? Jesus is monumentally more important than Aaron.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
Christ's Spirit is the Holy Trinity but for Christ to become Man ..there was a compromise.
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This is incorrect and has no basis in Scripture. The Holy Spirit is three distinct divine Persons, and for Christ to become Man the eternal Word (who is now Jesus) took human form through a supernatural conception in Mary's womb. Which means that Christ had a body, soul, and spirit. There are no compromises within the Godhead, which means that you are thoroughly confused about this subject.
 
pittsburghjoe

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Nehemiah6 said:
This is incorrect and has no basis in Scripture. The Holy Spirit is three distinct divine Persons, and for Christ to become Man the eternal Word (who is now Jesus) took human form through a supernatural conception in Mary's womb. Which means that Christ had a body, soul, and spirit. There are no compromises within the Godhead, which means that you are thoroughly confused about this subject.
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Somehow He wasn't born the High Priest, He became it.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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pittsburghjoe said:
Why does "High Priest" have to be after he rose? Jesus is monumentally more important than Aaron.
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I did not say he was less important or equal. I tried to use the type to show reality.

Could jesus help us before he died? We were still dead. Because redemption had not yet been purchased.
 
oyster67

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phil36 said:
Therefore, following the holy fathers, we all with one accord teach men to acknowledge
one and the same Son, our Lord Jesus Christ,
at once complete in Godhead and complete in manhood,
truly God and truly man,
consisting also of a reasonable soul and body;
of one substance with the Father as regards his Godhead,
and at the same time of one substance with us as regards his manhood;
like us in all respects, apart from sin;

as regards his Godhead, begotten of the Father before the ages,
but yet as regards his manhood begotten, for us men and for our salvation, of Mary the Virgin, the Godbearer;
one and the same Christ, Son, Lord, Only-begotten,
recognized in two natures, without confusion, without change, without division, without separation;
the distinction of natures being in no way annulled by the union,
but rather the characteristics of each nature being preserved and coming together to form one person and subsistence,
not as parted or separated into two persons,
but one and the same Son and Only-begotten God the Word, Lord Jesus Christ;
even as the prophets from earliest times spoke of him, and our Lord Jesus Christ himself taught us,
and the creed of the fathers has handed down to us.
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I kind of prefer the Bible version...

1 John
5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
 
phil36

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oyster67 said:
I kind of prefer the Bible version...

1 John
5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
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ah the Comma Johanneum.
 
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