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VCO

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...that is a small part of what the new age religion sect is teaching.
I have been tracking NEW AGE, ever since the Pakistani Guru said he was "Christ is a position not a person, and now you have to forget about Jesus Christ, and Follow Me." That was in the mid 80's. You have no idea what is New Age, and what is not.

Now Answer my question of go on the Permanent IGNORE LIST.

Do you Believe you are Sinless or have stopped Sinning ?
Do you believe in the HOLY TRINITY ?
And what Denomination do you call HOME ?

An what is New Age Teaching in YOUR MIND ?

In my experience, pseudo christian cult members are the ones that will not answer: what Denomination do you call HOME ?
 
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Actually this is not resisting.

When you Love God and your neighbor. Your not tempted. Thats why the law of love is far better than the law of moses.
Really? We don't have to resist temptation, but Jesus fought so hard against the temptation to run from the Cross that He painted the ground RED with His blood, right? ;)
 
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You can't keep the law, Its impossible. As jesus said, there is only one Good and that is God.
Oh, so the text should have read:

"I can do all things through Christ Which strengtheneth me............................except obey God's laws...............yeah, we just can't stop hating or watching porn or that stuff, but we can do everything else, no problemo.":rolleyes:
 

gb9

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Oh, so the text should have read:

"I can do all things through Christ Which strengtheneth me............................except obey God's laws...............yeah, we just can't stop hating or watching porn or that stuff, but we can do everything else, no problemo.":rolleyes:

gentiles were and are not under the Law of Moses.

no Sabbath keeping required. the N.T. commands are what we are under.
 

CherieR

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Oh, so the text should have read:

"I can do all things through Christ Which strengtheneth me............................except obey God's laws...............yeah, we just can't stop hating or watching porn or that stuff, but we can do everything else, no problemo.":rolleyes:
Do you believe you always keep God’s law? Do you believe you have stopped sinning?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Oh, so the text should have read:

"I can do all things through Christ Which strengtheneth me............................except obey God's laws...............yeah, we just can't stop hating or watching porn or that stuff, but we can do everything else, no problemo.":rolleyes:
So your perfect? Tell us. When did you commit your last sin?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Do you believe you always keep God’s law? Do you believe you have stopped sinning?
Got to love the self righteous who think they have arrived. While judging everyone else.

Sadly Jesus warning about the proud pharisee is lost on some people. People still love to pump their chests, and attack those who got on their knees
 

notuptome

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Got to love the self righteous who think they have arrived. While judging everyone else.

Sadly Jesus warning about the proud pharisee is lost on some people. People still love to pump their chests, and attack those who got on their knees
Sadly they ignore plain scripture.

1 John 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
1 John 2:1 ¶ My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

VCO

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gentiles were and are not under the Law of Moses.

no Sabbath keeping required. the N.T. commands are what we are under.
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Here is the exact quotes from the BIBLE. This is Talking about the Sabbath Keeping Law. How do we KNOW ? Jesus reiterated 9 of the 10 commandments, and HE DID NOT MENTION THE SABBATH KEEP LAW. WHY? It was a sign of the covenant between God and the Children of ISRAEL.

Exodus 31:16-17 (NJB)
16 The Israelites will keep the Sabbath, observing the Sabbath for all their generations to come: this is an eternal covenant.
17 Between myself and the Israelites, this is a sign for ever, for in six days Yahweh made heaven and earth, but on the seventh day he rested and drew breath.” '

BUT JESUS KNEW their was another LAW, that stated: Any change in the priesthood must mean a change in the Law as well.
So JESUS CHOSE THE SABBATH LAW TO CHANGE IT TO SOMETHING ELSE, and it does not mention the day of the week, infact it says every day is coequal.


Hebrews 7:11-17 (NJB)
11 Now if perfection had been reached through the levitical priesthood—and this was the basis of the Law given to the people—why was it necessary for a different kind of priest to arise, spoken of as being of the order of Melchizedek rather than of the order of Aaron?
12 Any change in the priesthood must mean a change in the Law as well.
13 So our Lord, of whom these things were said, belonged to a different tribe, the members of which have never done service at the altar;
14 everyone knows he came from Judah, a tribe which Moses did not mention at all when dealing with priests.
15 This becomes even more clearly evident if another priest, of the type of Melchizedek,
16 arises who is a priest not in virtue of a law of physical descent, but in virtue of the power of an indestructible life.
17 For he is attested by the prophecy: You are a priest for ever of the order of Melchizedek.


Hebrews 7:18-25 (NJB)
18 The earlier commandment is thus abolished, because of its weakness and ineffectiveness
19 since the Law could not make anything perfect; but now this commandment is replaced by something better
the hope that brings us close to God.
20 Now the former priests became priests without any oath being sworn,
21 but this one with the swearing of an oath by him who said to him, The Lord has sworn an oath he will never retract: you are a priest for ever;
22 the very fact that it occurred with the swearing of an oath makes the covenant of which Jesus is the guarantee all the greater.
23 Further, the former priests were many in number, because death put an end to each one of them;
24 but this one, because he remains for ever, has a perpetual priesthood.
25 It follows, then, that his power to save those who come to God through him is absolute, since he lives for ever to intercede for them.

Romans 14:4-6 (HCSB)
4 Who are you to criticize another’s household slave? Before his own Lord he stands or falls. And he will stand. For the Lord is able to make him stand.
5 One person considers one day to be above another day. Someone else considers every day to be the same. Each one must be fully convinced in his own mind.
6 Whoever observes the day, observes it for the honor of the Lord. Whoever eats, eats for the Lord, since he gives thanks to God; and whoever does not eat, it is for the Lord that he does not eat ⌊it⌋, yet he thanks God.

Here is what He Changed it to:

Hebrews 10:23-25 (HCSB)
23 Let us hold on to the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful.
24 And let us be concerned about one another in order to promote love and good works,
25 not staying away from our ⌊worship⌋ meetings, as some habitually do, but encouraging each other, and all the more as you see the day drawing near.
 
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I have been tracking NEW AGE, ever since the Pakistani Guru said he was "Christ is a position not a person, and now you have to forget about Jesus Christ, and Follow Me." That was in the mid 80's. You have no idea what is New Age, and what is not.

Now Answer my question of go on the Permanent IGNORE LIST.

Do you Believe you are Sinless or have stopped Sinning ?
Do you believe in the HOLY TRINITY ?
And what Denomination do you call HOME ?
An what is New Age Teaching in YOUR MIND ?


In my experience, pseudo christian cult members are the ones that will not answer: what Denomination do you call HOME ?
I have...bye.
 

Magenta

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Sadly they ignore plain scripture.

1 John 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
1 John 2:1 ¶ My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

For the cause of Christ
Roger


1 John 2:1-2 :)
 
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Do you believe you always keep God’s law? Do you believe you have stopped sinning?
A just man falls seven times and rises up again...an unjust man climbs down into it, takes a comfortable seat, and swats away the hand of God reaching down to help him climb out.

The question for us all is which of the two represents our Christian experience. The answer, sadly, is most professing Christians...based on the number of those who'll be shocked to hear, "Depart from Me" on Judgment day.
 
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So your perfect? Tell us. When did you commit your last sin?
Pinnhead Theology causes you OSAS guys to be preoccupied with what others might be doing instead of heeding the counsel of Paul to "examine yourselves to see if ye be in the faith".

James says the exam is simple: gaze into the "Law of Liberty" to see if your reflection in it is true or marred...but how can you Pinnheads do that when you dismiss James as a fool for directing us to look into a mirror that you claim no longer exists?
 

gb9

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Pinnhead Theology causes you OSAS guys to be preoccupied with what others might be doing instead of heeding the counsel of Paul to "examine yourselves to see if ye be in the faith".

James says the exam is simple: gaze into the "Law of Liberty" to see if your reflection in it is true or marred...but how can you Pinnheads do that when you dismiss James as a fool for directing us to look into a mirror that you claim no longer exists?

you sure do lot of judging for examining yourself.
 
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you sure do lot of judging for examining yourself.
Pointing out false doctrine is not "judging", friend.

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them." Ephesians 5:11 KJV
 

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you sure do lot of judging for examining yourself.
He does a whole lot of judging about the hearts of believers. Seems as though he fully believes he alone has the answers to salvation, discipleship, how to keep the law, etc. According to him, the rest of us are alone in the dark.