The Chaste Spouse?

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So... if you're anything like me, (which I wholly acknowledge not everyone is lol) you might have been brought up in a heavily sheltered home where censorship was key (anything the slightest bit liberal or even mentioning witchcraft was a no-no), and a specific line of Christian teachings was the absolute, non-negotiable go-to.

In this one specific area, I'd like to focus on the topic of Chasity.

A little while back, I saw a couple of entries in a Catholic community on Tumblr. One was where a woman, who is now a wife and mom, was talking about how she was raped when she was younger. She basically said that she found some aspects of purity culture to be highly offensive and hurtful, because it can turn into a form of idolatry in of itself. Like... if people place a great emphasis on "getting a spouse who is pure, who has been saving himself/herself for me alone", in a way.... while that IS important, depending on what your beliefs are... it also reduces a person to their bodily organs.

In the end, I guess what I'm trying to get at here is....

When you really think about it on a deep level... what are any of our expectations or requirements, subconscious or otherwise, when we look to what we'd want in a potential life-partner?

In many ways, I basically dreamed when I was young that God had hand-picked someone for me and would keep that person perfectly pure... maybe sorta like a well-preserved porcelain doll or something until I was old enough to be presented with the person, and I'd barely even have to lift a finger, because... surely I was great enough just the way I was, and I was prepared to receive, not work at anything or give much of anything of myself.

But, especially in this day and age... well, I'm actually finding that it was easier to find someone who hasn't been with anyone yet when I was in my younger twenties... dating sites were just full of profiles. But as you get older... and you continue trying to keep your search parameters to those within your age group, you find that some of the people who are looking are either divorced, separated or widowed... or have had at least enough life experience to have slept around a bit.

Thus shatters the naïve, idealistic notion that you can just have your well-preserved porcelain doll.

So I guess my question for discussion in this thread is: What were your original expectations when you set your sights on a prospective, significant other when you were younger? And if you had specific qualifications in mind for how right or pure someone needed to be... has any of that changed? Would you potentially go out with someone if they've slept around or if they've been divorced, or would you prefer to stick to your guns and wait for someone who has been saving themself for a special someone?

I'd like to hear what you guys have to say. :)
 

Subhumanoidal

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I wasn't so sheltered. Nor was I in a liberal household. It was a Christian household, though a bit loosely.

I made some choices fairly young that disqualified me from being accepted by any hardcore purity types.

Thus I always found strict notions of only marrying virgins a bit ridiculous. Perhaps seeing it as an ideal to prefer is fine, but dismissing anyone who isn't a virgin was something I feel is wrong.
It always felt like holding someone's past against them to make yourself feel you're doing something more spiritual.

And rape should never be held against people as, spiritually speaking, that person would still be a virgin.
But lots of people use their beliefs to justify their choices, even to the point of disregarding other people. Ironic.
 

Lanolin

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I am nothing like you lol
I grew up in the 80s-90s when it was just expected you became sexually active when you were a teen. There was nothing to say you had to wait till you were married except maybe parents warning you. Girls would go on the pill and how to put on a condoms etc were taught in high schools.

Marriage was only expected if maybe you came from a traditonal family like an indian family who had one prearranged since you were a toddler.

the christian girl friends I had at high school wanted to marry someone as soon as they left school and were looking for husbands when they were studying lol. I recall one christian friend agonising about going out with an athiest.

I wasnt a christian then but I was kinda more focused on getting through school and going to uni. I didnt feel I had time to devote to a boy or wasnt stressed about finding a husband. Although when boys started taking notice it was a bit creepy cos sometimes it would be OLDER men and I just couldnt imagine being married or even wanting to be married. I had MY life to live not someone elses.
 

Lanolin

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then it was getting a decent job cos what would be the point of going to uni, being broke and not having a job right?
I guess in my circles, It was never expected that girls wouldnt have to lift a finger. we had to work.
 

Lanolin

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as for chastity, well. some girls want to do it for free. while maybe the smart ones charged I dont know. I would be really disappointed in a guy who presumed I was an easy lay. But a man who was after that kind of thing might have to pay some sort of price you know. sad thing is, most girls didnt know ther value and give it away for free.

With the christian girls, they knew pretty much who they were after and to withhold it till the honeymoon that they presumed would happen, but thats why they wanted to marry really young. they may have had more advantages like more family connections and education that they had no problems getting work or finances though. also their parents would help them find suitable partners.
 
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Chastity is good, but it is not good to idolize it either. A hooker can be a better person at heart than a virgin. If someone places a lot of importance on virginity, I don't think it is good. The same type of person would think a girl is "spoiled goods" if she wasn't a virgin even at no fault of her own. This said, I do think it is important for a person to be chaste and live a holy lifestyle. But, chastity is not a better quality than other qualities. I would not go out with someone who has slept around a lot, I think that would change his view of women.
 

Lanolin

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double standard for the boys. boys seem to expect girls be pure angels and then AT THE SAME TIME still mess around with all other girls and ruin the reps of those they just dont wanna marry.

Im like what. Heres what I think about boys who insist a girl has to be pure. So you expect a girl never to have been with anyone waiting round for you when you have been trying it on with other the girls as well? Give me a break. and what do you mean never been with anyone. Not kissing not touching not even THINKING? some kids are going round with others and having boy girls friendships in primary school!

maybe some people really do live under a rock. Good for them, but in reality its not the garden of eden anymore.
ok even if you homeschooled, you might live on a farm, and the animals are always mating in spring right. Its not like the animals dont know where babies come from.

when I obeserve primary school children, the girls say they want to the boys to be kind to them. That is all they ask. Not being rude and disrespectful. The boys dont want a girl who annoys them either.

looks and money and how many friends they have or not dont even come into it. and besides girls can do everything a boy does and usually better at that age because they develop their brains faster. If a boy wants a girl not to be able to do anything and not lift a finger theyd pick on a junior girl so they can feel equal or superior to them lol
 

Lynx

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Would you potentially go out with someone if they've slept around or if they've been divorced, or would you prefer to stick to your guns and wait for someone who has been saving themself for a special someone?
I have decided I will not make that decision until I am dating the lady about whom I am deciding. And I may never go out with her, so I may never have to decide.

I'm not very proactive about finding a date-or-mate. I mean... if I find The One For Me, great! But I'm not spending a lot of time and effort to find her. So this may be a decision I will never face.

Also, if I decide now my decision may change when I finally get to know her. Love changes a lot of things, or so I've heard. I could decide right now, "No way I'm gonna even THINK about being with a woman who has had sex with another man!" but next month I might meet a wonderful lady with a rocky past and change my mind. Who knows?

Having said that...

This IS a good question, something that people should think about before they come up against the decision. It's important to know what you believe before you get to the point where it is tested.
 

Lynx

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double standard for the boys. boys seem to expect girls be pure angels and then AT THE SAME TIME still mess around with all other girls and ruin the reps of those they just dont wanna marry.

Im like what. Heres what I think about boys who insist a girl has to be pure. So you expect a girl never to have been with anyone waiting round for you when you have been trying it on with other the girls as well? Give me a break. and what do you mean never been with anyone. Not kissing not touching not even THINKING? some kids are going round with others and having boy girls friendships in primary school!

maybe some people really do live under a rock. Good for them, but in reality its not the garden of eden anymore.
ok even if you homeschooled, you might live on a farm, and the animals are always mating in spring right. Its not like the animals dont know where babies come from.

when I obeserve primary school children, the girls say they want to the boys to be kind to them. That is all they ask. Not being rude and disrespectful. The boys dont want a girl who annoys them either.

looks and money and how many friends they have or not dont even come into it. and besides girls can do everything a boy does and usually better at that age because they develop their brains faster. If a boy wants a girl not to be able to do anything and not lift a finger theyd pick on a junior girl so they can feel equal or superior to them lol
I know SOME guys like that. I know other guys who are not like that at all.

For example, I'm a guy and I'm not like that. But your broad-brush statements paint me also with your accusations against boys.

Also I know a lot of girls with that same double standard.