If God's Word is The Creation and The Truth, that means uncertainty is disturbing both.

[Blain]

Your stance is that you would prefer we didn't have scientific evidence of the Garden? Are you saying there is going to be uncertainty in Heaven?

We don't need scientific evidence of the gardedn, we can have it or not it really doesn't make any difference the bible speaks of it for me that is more than enough evidence. Bujt it isn't heaven I am talking about when it comes to uncertainty it is the value and lesson of uncertainty here on earth.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

We became uncertain on Who to believe.

We are not completely separated from God unless we go to hell.

This symbol will not be relevant after Judgment Day.

 

[Magenta]

This symbol will not be relevant after Judgment Day.

That looks like a stylized yin/yang symbol.

The problem with that "philosophy" is that each side contains an iota of it's opposite.

Whereas no darkness at all dwells within God.

God is light, in Him there is no darkness at all. 1 John 1:5

 

[pittsburghjoe]

That looks like a stylized yin/yang symbol.

The problem with that "philosophy" is that each side contains an iota of it's opposite.

Whereas no darkness at all dwells within God.

God is light, in Him there is no darkness at all. 1 John 1:5

It is yin/yang, it looks like trees and/or brains to me. I'm not saying to go follow some other religion. I just think it represents what this thread is about.

I'm not claiming it is God, it represents the uncertainty of this fallen place.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Uncertainty of The Word causes this mess we are in. Spiritually and Physically. Jesus paid the ultimate price because of us. Getting rid of the yin/yang will mean becoming fully one with God again. No more uncertainty.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

We can't become compatible with God unless we become certain on His Word. Jesus made it possible on us becoming certain to matter.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Maybe the yin/yang only represents an unbeliever. The followers would have way more white/grey. I don't think it is 100% white because, at least for me, I still have some evil thoughts that creep in. I ask God to make them not possible, but I don't think that's a thing that happens until this is over.

 

[Nehemiah6]

God created other things before the tree of knowledge...

Not just knowledge, but the knowledge of good and evil. Which includes the experience of both good and evil, as well as their consequences. Adam and Eve experienced the consequences of disobedience (evil).

As regards the Uncertainty Principle (from Quantum Physics) it is more than likely that it was already a part of the universe before the Fall (as were all Natural Laws).

"The uncertainty principle is certainly one of the most famous aspects of quantum mechanics. It has often been regarded as the most distinctive feature in which quantum mechanics differs from classical theories of the physical world. Roughly speaking, the uncertainty principle (for position and momentum) states that one cannot assign exact simultaneous values to the position and momentum of a physical system. Rather, these quantities can only be determined with some characteristic “uncertainties” that cannot become arbitrarily small simultaneously."
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qt-uncertainty/

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Not just knowledge, but the knowledge of good and evil. Which includes the experience of both good and evil, as well as their consequences. Adam and Eve experienced the consequences of disobedience (evil).

As regards the Uncertainty Principle (from Quantum Physics) it is more than likely that it was already a part of the universe before the Fall (as were all Natural Laws).

"The uncertainty principle is certainly one of the most famous aspects of quantum mechanics. It has often been regarded as the most distinctive feature in which quantum mechanics differs from classical theories of the physical world. Roughly speaking, the uncertainty principle (for position and momentum) states that one cannot assign exact simultaneous values to the position and momentum of a physical system. Rather, these quantities can only be determined with some characteristic “uncertainties” that cannot become arbitrarily small simultaneously."
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qt-uncertainty/

What purpose does the Uncertainty Principle play in a creation before the fall? How would you even know?

 

[anonymous777888]

What? Christ took the plan from God the Father and made it so with the Word.

what are you talking about?

are you an esoterist.
I noticed that symbol your using is of the monad and the four spirit's earth, wind, water and fire.

If your confused, I can clarify, but if your not then there are deeper issue's.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

what are you talking about?

are you an esoterist.
I noticed that symbol your using is of the monad and the four spirit's earth, wind, water and fire.

If your confused, I can clarify, but if your not then there are deeper issue's.

Yes, I'm the devil for using a symbol that might represent the Tree of Knowledge. Try reading what I wrote instead of vilifying me.

 

[anonymous777888]

Yes, I'm the devil for using a symbol that might represent the Tree of Knowledge. Try reading what I wrote instead of vilifying me.

You might be, I Like sniffing out anyone if they are because The Bible Talk's about destructive heresies you know.

in all seriousness, are you!?

 

[pittsburghjoe]

You might be, I Like sniffing out anyone if they are because The Bible Talk's about destructive heresies you know.

in all seriousness, are you!?

Science pointing to Jesus/God???!!! BURN THE WITCH!!!!

 

[anonymous777888]

Science pointing to Jesus/God???!!! BURN THE WITCH!!!!

You're overreacting from being asked a question that could have been answered with, no.

The Bible say'S let your yes be yes and your no be no.

science is incompatible with The Bible. I already told you it originated from The Babylonian concept of the monad, English singularity, which is derived from monadic theosophy, or polytheism, the concept of a zodiac represented by a pentacle, which is intended to depict the oroborosl's.

a singularity is a false Concept for the simple reason, if, the universe had alway's existed it could not be traced back to a single point in time. If it always existed, it would exist for an infinite and perpetual length of Time without change.

you're jumping to conclusion'ls from being asked a simple question.

 

[anonymous777888]

It means we are in the same test as Adam and Eve. We don't get to complain about not taking the fruit ..because the same fruit is right in front of us.

You are an esoterist and of the devil.

Next time you try that, prepare yourself. Because now I'm going to send you some visitor's.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

You are an esoterist and of the devil.

Next time you try that, prepare yourself. Because now I'm going to send you some visitor's.

I'm starting to understand why you are anonymous.

 

[Nehemiah6]

What purpose does the Uncertainty Principle play in a creation before the fall? How would you even know?

The reason I know is that God chose to make matter and energy as both waves and particles. And the Uncertainty Principle says that this is "roughly speaking" (the definiteness of position and the indefiniteness of momentum). All Natural Laws went into effect before the Fall.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

The reason I know is that God chose to make matter and energy as both waves and particles. And the Uncertainty Principle says that this is "roughly speaking" (the definiteness of position and the indefiniteness of momentum). All Natural Laws went into effect before the Fall.

I'm not asking how you personally know. I'm saying it wouldn't have changed classical physics much to not have it running.

 

[tribesman]

"Hobo Chang Ba" (Capt. Beefheart).

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Satan started out working for God. A good God found use for the evil in him. I think God used satan's uncertainty in part of the physics here. Satan then mistakenly thought he could become greater than God.