The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit resurrected Jesus

[Runningman]

The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Spirit is God.

Galatians 1:1
1Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead

John 2:19
19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

Romans 8:11
11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

 

[throughfaith]

The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Spirit is God.

Galatians 1:1
1Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead

John 2:19
19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

Romans 8:11
11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

A great one to share with Jehovah's_Witnesses who say Jesus is not God .

 

[101G]

The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Spirit is God.

thanks for the topic, but are these titles, Father, son, and Holy Ghost, in reference to one person or three? just asking, to be sure we're on the same understanding.

PICJAG,
101G.

 

[throughfaith]

thanks for the topic, but are these titles, Father, son, and Holy Ghost, in reference to one person or three? just asking, to be sure we're on the same understanding.

PICJAG,
101G.

Three distinct ' persons ' yes .One God ( being , essence and 'nature ' shared)

 

[Runningman]

A great one to share with Jehovah's_Witnesses who say Jesus is not God .

Good point.

They may not accept a different version than the New World Translation (NWT) as scripture though.

Even though the NWT is largely corrupted, I just looked up those verses in their Bible and it retains enough of the original meaning of those verses that they can connect the dots and come to the conclusion that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are God and that God Himself raised Jesus from the dead.

 

[101G]

Three distinct ' persons ' yes .One God ( being , essence and 'nature ' shared)

thanks for the reply, second, three distinct persons? but did you not say in your OP, that Galatians 1:1 the Father raised up Jesus the christ, but in John 2:19 in your OP, which you quoted correctly, that it was Jesus who raised up his body. so are these these the same person, or distinct? if distinct, so who actually raised up the Christ, the Body of God?

The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Spirit is God.

Galatians 1:1
1Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead

John 2:19
19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

Romans 8:11
11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

so which person actually raised up the body of christ?

PICJAG,
101G

 

[Runningman]

So which person actually raised up the body of christ?

PICJAG,
101G

That's a valid question and it is one that is asked frequently.

What we are talking about here is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three disinct persons (plural) known as God (singular).

1 John 5:7
7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

This picture helps me understand it better:

 

[101G]

1 John 5:7
7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

First thanks for the reply, but I'm very aware of 1 John 5:7 and the Picture, but 1 John 5:7 states, "THESE" three are one, not "THEY" are one, three TITLES, .... "these", if the Verse would have said, "THEY", three are one, then we all could pack our bags and go home, Game over. but no the Verses reference TITLES. these three titles are of ONE "PERSON". so I must disagree with your assessment.

be blessed.

PICJAG,
101G.

 

[101G]

Now to follow up on your 1 John 5:7, 1 John 5:8 "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." is this three persons? no, of course not. these, these, ..... "THESE" as in 1 John 5:7, these are ONE person. spirit, small case, a man spirit, blood, of a man, and water, flesh, which our bodies make up over 80% in WATER. what do this mean... spirit, blood, and flesh? a man, one person. so "THESE" three is ONE "PERSON, as in 1 John 5:7, these in Heaven, because there is no blood in heaven, but these, 1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." these are ONE "Spirit," in heaven, and on earth these are one Man. simply put, God (Spirit),in Heaven, God Flesh, (on Earth)

PICJAG,
101G

 

[Runningman]

First thanks for the reply, but I'm very aware of 1 John 5:7 and the Picture, but 1 John 5:7 states, "THESE" three are one, not "THEY" are one, three TITLES, .... "these", if the Verse would have said, "THEY", three are one, then we all could pack our bags and go home, Game over. but no the Verses reference TITLES. these three titles are of ONE "PERSON". so I must disagree with your assessment.

be blessed.

PICJAG,
101G.

"These" is a demonstrative pronoun it is a reference to a plural number of persons. Therefore its being used accurately.

Am I totally misunderstanding what you're saying here or does what I just showed you make sense? Do you agree now?

 

[Runningman]

Now to follow up on your 1 John 5:7, 1 John 5:8 "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." is this three persons? no, of course not. these, these, ..... "THESE" as in 1 John 5:7, these are ONE person. spirit, small case, a man spirit, blood, of a man, and water, flesh, which our bodies make up over 80% in WATER. what do this mean... spirit, blood, and flesh? a man, one person. so "THESE" three is ONE "PERSON, as in 1 John 5:7, these in Heaven, because there is no blood in heaven, but these, 1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." these are ONE "Spirit," in heaven, and on earth these are one Man. simply put, God (Spirit),in Heaven, God Flesh, (on Earth)

PICJAG,
101G

The premise of your argument is flawed so that's inaccurate.

Please lookup what demonstrative pronouns are: this, that, these, those.

 

[101G]

The premise of your argument is flawed so that's inaccurate.

Please lookup what demonstrative pronouns are: this, that, these, those.

first thanks for the reply, second, " the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost", here are NOUNS, in reference to a person. again, understand if the scriptures would have said, they three are one yes, you would be right, but is said, "THESE", and NOT they, which are titles of one PERSON only.
if I'm in error, then prove it by the scriptures, because "THESE" are not "THEY", I'll be looking forward to your correction by the scriptures.

thanks in advance,

PICJAG,
101G

 

[Runningman]

first thanks for the reply, second, " the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost", here are NOUNS, in reference to a person. again, understand if the scriptures would have said, they three are one yes, you would be right, but is said, "THESE", and NOT they, which are titles of one PERSON only.
if I'm in error, then prove it by the scriptures, because "THESE" are not "THEY", I'll be looking forward to your correction by the scriptures.

thanks in advance,

PICJAG,
101G

A demonstrative pronoun is a pronoun that points to a specific noun or noun phrase in a sentence. It can substitute for the noun or noun phrase as long as what it represents is clear within the context.

Example:

1 John 5:7
7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

In keeping with the rules of English that the translators of the KJV used and the same rules we use today:

These is the demonstrative pronoun and the nouns that it points to are proper nouns known as the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The context is clear we are talking about three people.

Does that make sense now? This is actually really important foundational material for our Christian faith.

 

[101G]

It can substitute for the noun or noun phrase as long as what it represents is clear within the context.

Great, because these titles, substitute for the noun in the verses

supportive scripture, John 8:18 "I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me." where was the FATHER? ..... in "HEAVEN"...... and where was Christ/Son? ... ON EARTH.

see John 1:1c is correct when stating, "the "WORD" was God. and God is a Spirit. so the witness in Heaven is God the Spirit, and on earth, God in flesh as a man, spirit, water, and blood, 1 John 5:8

so the Father, who is the Word, (John 1:1c), the Holy Ghost is in Heaven, 1 John 5:7
and the Son, God, in flesh, (as a man), spirit, water, and blood witness in Earth, 1 John 5:8.

so thanks for confirming what I have said.

PICJAG,
101G.

 

[101G]

Now @Runningman, the titles you speak of is only one person who is diversified in flesh and blood.
the scriptures are clear, there is only one Person in the Godhead. what do I mean, God is a "Diversity" of himself in flesh. scripture, Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:" this verse clearly tells us God is a ECHAD, of A. LORD, and B. Lord. better known as First, and Last, or Beginning, and End.

PICJAG,
101G.

 

[p_rehbein]

Now to follow up on your 1 John 5:7, 1 John 5:8 "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." is this three persons? no, of course not. these, these, ..... "THESE" as in 1 John 5:7, these are ONE person. spirit, small case, a man spirit, blood, of a man, and water, flesh, which our bodies make up over 80% in WATER. what do this mean... spirit, blood, and flesh? a man, one person. so "THESE" three is ONE "PERSON, as in 1 John 5:7, these in Heaven, because there is no blood in heaven, but these, 1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." these are ONE "Spirit," in heaven, and on earth these are one Man. simply put, God (Spirit),in Heaven, God Flesh, (on Earth)

PICJAG,
101G

IF you are searching to explain the Holy Trinity, it really is not all that complicated:

God the Father: God OF man

God the Son: God AS man

God the Holy Ghost: God WITHIN man


God (God the Father) loved His children so much that He desired to have a personal relationship with them, but under the First Covenant, that was not possible. For to look upon the presence of the Living God would cause certain death. Only the High Priest could be in His Presnece.

Longing for that relationship, He took upon Himself the form of man and came to earth to establish His Salvation Plan so that ALL who believed could have theirs sins cleansed and be made worthy to be called the Sons of God. The price for this was the death of Jesus (God the Son) on Calvary's Cross where He shed His precious blood. On the 3rd day He rose to claim His Throne, and, as promised, He sent the Comforter to be with us (God the Holy Ghost). God OF man, God AS man, God WITHIN man.

Once we realize our dire need for His presence in our lives, repent and ask Him to come into our hearts and cleanse us of our sins, the great desire God had for a personal relationship with us is completed.

The Holy Trinity is Three Persons in One, in Perfect Harmony, and, while He is able to manifest Himself in different ways for different purposes, He is never really apart One from the Others.

The thing is: The Christian Faith is just that..........a FAITH! It requires that WE BELIEVE He is who He says He is.

 

[Runningman]

so the Father, who is the Word, (John 1:1c), the Holy Ghost is in Heaven, 1 John 5:7
and the Son, God, in flesh, (as a man), spirit, water, and blood witness in Earth, 1 John 5:8.

so thanks for confirming what I have said.

PICJAG,
101G.

No.

John 1:1 does not say "The Father is the Word"

John 1:1
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Look at verse 14

14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Now look back at this verse:

1 John 5:7
7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

See how 1 John 5:7 is about how the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are one?

 

[Runningman]

Now @Runningman, the titles you speak of is only one person who is diversified in flesh and blood.
the scriptures are clear, there is only one Person in the Godhead. what do I mean, God is a "Diversity" of himself in flesh. scripture, Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:" this verse clearly tells us God is a ECHAD, of A. LORD, and B. Lord. better known as First, and Last, or Beginning, and End.

PICJAG,
101G.

No the scripture is not clear on that.

The scripture says the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are one.

 

[101G]

No.

John 1:1 does not say "The Father is the Word"

John 1:1
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Look at verse 14

14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Now look back at this verse:

1 John 5:7
7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

See how 1 John 5:7 is about how the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are one?

thanks for the reply, this is what I'm talking about, ok, if the word was made flesh how much of the Spirit was made flesh? since it's three persons, and all suppose to be of the ONE substance "Spirit", so how much of the Spirit did the person, son, was made flesh? ... 1/3 of the Spirit that was made flesh? or was it all of the Spirit that was made flesh? which one? now thinl long before you answer, which will answer your 1 John 5:7 question.

looking foward to your answer.

PICJAG,
101G

 

[101G]

No the scripture is not clear on that.

The scripture says the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are one.

thanks for the reply, ok if what you say is true, then answer me this, Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."
now the context of who is speaking here is in a couple of verse before this, verse 8, the LORD, all caps, as Deuteronomy 6:4. so my question is this, "When was the LORD, God, the Father pierced?"

as said, 1 Thessalonians 5:21 "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good."

PICJAG,
101G.