The gospel of the kingdom, the everlasting gospel, gospel of Christ, etc.

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Gideon300

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" God s good news is from Genesis to revelation, its all good news every word, even the bad stuff . Ah yes good news, good news, good news . His plan from alllllll ages ,from start to finish, he always knew his plan in his mind the good news ,the plan from beginning to end to , he knew . This good news, one in number ,oh yes just one . The one singular one, oneness one from the very beginning . .."

" Israel ? " ..oh thats spiritual Israel is really God's people ,the ones that follow God from the heart thats all Israel means. Israel is really the church. The church has always been since Adam . oh yes Israel or' Churchael' as I like to say. Church , Israel, one Gospel, one truth, one love one life .

"Regeneration ? everyone was regenerated in the old testament. There is no verse ,but we just assume it because it has to be ...erm ...because....erm yeah well because they couldn't have done anything, even said his name without being born again first . Yeah that's right , a man needs to be caused to believe so he pleases God by believing this pleases God when he does this so they believe, believe me I didn't believe it when I first heard it but the professor said I'd be a universalist/ semi pelagian if I believed otherwise "
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Not true. Relatively few were born again in the OT. God's covenant with Israel was Law, not grace. In order to live, as in eternal life, Israel had to obey the Law perfectly. We know how that worked out. Those who were anointed, the men and women of faith, were born again. But they were very much the minority. Just two people who left Egypt entered the promised land. The rest perished because of their unbelief. Israel's history is rebellion and sin. That applies today. Israel as a nation testifies to God's power to keep His word no matter what the world says or does. But no way does that mean all Jews are born again.
 
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pottersclay

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The preaching of the gospel is this Christ crucified.
The good news is not that we can except Christ into our lives but he has already excepted us into his.
For while we were yet sinners christ died for us.....praise his name thank you Jesus.
 
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Gideon300

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pottersclay said:
The preaching of the gospel is this Christ crucified.
The good news is not that we can except Christ into our lives but he has already excepted us into his.
For while we were yet sinners christ died for us.....praise his name thank you Jesus.
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"except" meaning: "specify as excluded from a category or group."

It's the opposite of the word "accept", which is what I hope you mean to say.
 
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pottersclay

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Gideon300 said:
"except" meaning: "specify as excluded from a category or group."

It's the opposite of the word "accept", which is what I hope you mean to say.
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Yes and thank you for the correction. Getting old 😞😞😞
 
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Same as what ? I never here what this ' same ' Gospel is ? Why is no one giving the answer as to what this one Gospel is . After all we need to know so that we don't preach the wrong one .What's the ' One ' ?
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The one gospel that is true from Genesis to Revelation is that it is God's plan for our salvation. That plan was Christ. That is the gospel.
 
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So do you have a verse that SAYS the good news is a person ? . This sounds like one of those answers that's righteous sounding , it hits all the right notes but is the same non specific response every child answers in Sunday school " Jesus " being the answer to every question . Your begging the question by saying " the good news is Jesus " . Whist that is correct in a general sense ,its non specific. Jesus is the answer to most bible questions ,in a way . So its a bit of a fluffy , over arching statement . I can believe that Jesus is the power of God to salvation rom 1 .16 , but how ? and how do I appropriate?
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what doctrine did paul hear at a meeting or from a person while on the road to damascus???

i had a similar encounter. God came to me with nobody preaching or witnessing.
no doctrine was brought to me or paul for salvation.
 
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throughfaith

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what doctrine did paul hear at a meeting or from a person while on the road to damascus???

i had a similar encounter. God came to me with nobody preaching or witnessing.
no doctrine was brought to me or paul for salvation.
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Most likely he heard when Stephen was preaching.
 
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lamad

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Gideon300 said:
Not true. Relatively few were born again in the OT. God's covenant with Israel was Law, not grace. In order to live, as in eternal life, Israel had to obey the Law perfectly. We know how that worked out. Those who were anointed, the men and women of faith, were born again. But they were very much the minority. Just two people who left Egypt entered the promised land. The rest perished because of their unbelief. Israel's history is rebellion and sin. That applies today. Israel as a nation testifies to God's power to keep His word no matter what the world says or does. But no way does that mean all Jews are born again.
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Sorry, Gideon, but NO ONE was "born again" in the OT. It was impossible because being born again required the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ. All the righteous became born again after Jesus preached to them in Abraham's bosom and then rose from the dead. He emptied that place in hell and took them all to heaven. It seems a few of them (Perhaps the elders: Matthew 27) got their resurrection bodies and showed them off before they went to heaven.
 
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