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And if Gentiles were in the picture in Acts 2 ,why are the disciples shocked by a gentile receiving the Holy Spirit, prompting:
Acts11 .
14Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved.
15And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
16Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
17Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
18¶When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
19¶Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the JEWS ONLY .
JEWS ONLY
Could you explain these verses ?
Acts11 .
14Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved.
15And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
16Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
17Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
18¶When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
19¶Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the JEWS ONLY .
JEWS ONLY
Could you explain these verses ?
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I see it. There were undoubtedly Jews and Jewish proselytes there. Why make a distinction between all of the other nationalities and then single out the Jews and proselytes as also being present? Seems like it's possibly suggesting gentiles were present.
Acts 2:7-11
8And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
So why would an Ethiopian eunuch, a gentile, not eligible to be a Jew, come to Jerusalem to worship? Worship who? Was he traveling alone?
Acts 8:27
27And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,
Acts 2:7-11
8And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
So why would an Ethiopian eunuch, a gentile, not eligible to be a Jew, come to Jerusalem to worship? Worship who? Was he traveling alone?
Acts 8:27
27And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,
So no one informed Peter and the others about this when Cornelius recieves the Holy Spirit ? Peter didn't say " hey God why are you showing me this vision ,trying to tell me about the gentiles, I've understood all a long ,weve been preaching to them all this time , in fact 10 years ago Lord I told loads of Gentiles on the day of pentacost. Cornelius ? Yeah he's nothing new , I'm just going to make this arbitrary statement about the gentiles receiving the Holy Spirit with fake surprise and bewilderment ,just for the sake of it .
As a eunuch he wouldn't meet the qualifications to practice Judaism with the Jewish congregation or be a priest, even if he was an ethic Hebrew Cushite. He was Ethiopian.
Regarding restrictions against those with blemishes:
Leviticus 21:20
20Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken;
Regarding exclusion from the congregation:
Deuteronomy 23:1
1He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
Regarding restrictions against those with blemishes:
Leviticus 21:20
20Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken;
Regarding exclusion from the congregation:
Deuteronomy 23:1
1He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
The Apostle Peter says in Acts 3:21 KJV that he is preaching that “which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.”
The Apostle Paul writes in Romans 16:25,26a KJV that he is preaching “according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, but now is made manifest….”
Obviously, if words mean anything, Peter and Paul are speaking of two different things. Something “spoken since the world began” cannot be the same as something “kept secret since the world began.”
https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...ry-since-the-world-began.186597/#post-3994990
The Apostle Paul writes in Romans 16:25,26a KJV that he is preaching “according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, but now is made manifest….”
Obviously, if words mean anything, Peter and Paul are speaking of two different things. Something “spoken since the world began” cannot be the same as something “kept secret since the world began.”
https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...ry-since-the-world-began.186597/#post-3994990
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Well we have then a man who was a gentile ( ok fine ) who you say is not a proselyte to Judaism , but yet worshipping ( ok no problem, perhaps like Cornelius) all of this is after the stoning of Stephen where we see the transition to Samaritans and Jews so this supports my point anyway. In the passage before us, the Ethiopian eunuch is a Gentile ( ok no problem) saved by grace , through faith in the word which lead him to put his trust in the Blood Atonement of Jesus Christ . No “tongues” followed his conversion , no “laying-on-of-hands” was necessary , and his belief was from the heart. What's your point here ? Where is your gentile prior to Acts 7? Which is the transition after Israel finally reject their messiah, after stoning Stephen. Now the focus shifts towards the gentiles..
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This means that the mysteries of Jesus Christ are revealed now, not still a mystery, by the scriptures. In other words, they were preaching it since the beginning but didn't understand the mystery until the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Read the whole context:
Romans 16:25-26
25Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, 26But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
Read the whole context:
Romans 16:25-26
25Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, 26But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: