Have demons taken control?

[Blik]

We know from the book of Revelation (chapter 9 and others) that there will come a time when demons will take control of earthlings and perpetrate great evil on the earth. While that may be yet future in its proper fulfilment, the madness that has entered into American cities and into its federal government appears to be controlled demonically.

And when one looks beyond the USA at what has happened (and is happening) in the world over the last 12 months, it clearly shows that the powers of darkness are winning over the rule of law and over sanity on a daily basis. Even the pope has blatantly gone on over to the side of the globalists and liars (not that we expect much from him in the first place).

Christians may not be generally familiar with staunchly Catholic Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano. But he (as opposed to the pope) is one of the few people who has grasped what has happened in the world and connected it to Satan. Though we may differ with his theology he is speaking truth below:

...It must be recognized that the apparent illogicality of what we see happening – the boycotting of preventative treatments, erroneous therapies, ineffective vaccines, lockdowns with no usefulness, the use of masks that are absolutely useless – makes perfect sense as soon as we understand that the declared purpose – defeating the alleged pandemic – is a lie, and that the real purpose is the planning of an economic, social, and religious crisis using an artfully provoked pseudo-pandemic as a tool. Only in this way can we understand that the simultaneity and univocity of the provisions adopted by various nations, the aligned narration of the media, and the behavior of political leaders. There is a single script under a single direction, which makes use of the collaboration and complicity of politicians and rulers, doctors and scientists, bishops and priests, journalists and intellectuals, actors and influencers, multinationals and bankers, public employees and speculators. Profits and gains are instrumental to this, because they purchase and assure the loyalty of subordinates, but this war – may we never forget this! – is an ideological and religious war.

Two opposite worlds
This crisis serves to create the conditions necessary to make the Great Reset inevitable, that is, the transition from the world based on Greco-Roman civilization and Christianity to a world without a soul, without roots, without ideals. In practice, it is the passage from the Kingdom of Christ to the Kingdom of the Antichrist, from a virtuous society that punishes evildoers to the impious and wicked society that punishes the good. That detestable idea of “equality” that was earlier instilled in us by freethinkers has now been used to equate good and evil, right and wrong, beautiful and ugly, under the pretext of recognizing freedom of expression; today it serves to promote evil, injustice, and what is wrong, and even make them obligatory, in order to delegitimize and prohibit goodness, justice, and beauty.

Consistent with this vision, ecumenism too – which was initially introduced into the sacred enclosure by the Council under the pretext of bringing back heretics and schismatics – today shows its antichristic charge, incorporating all the false religions into a pantheon but proscribing the Apostolic Roman Catholic Religion, because it is the only true one and as such is irreconcilable with doctrinal error and moral deviation. We therefore ought to understand that, if we do not passively witness the changes underway and we do not allow the globalist ideology to be imposed on us in all of its most abject forms, we will soon be considered criminals, hostes publici because we are faithful to a jealous God who does not tolerate mixing with idols and prostitution. The deception of liberty, equality, and fraternity propagated by Masonry consists precisely in usurping the primacy of God to give it to Satan, with the apparent pretext – which is in any case erroneous and immoral – of placing God and Satan on the same level in such a way as to allow an alleged freedom of choice that morally does not exist. But the final purpose, the true and un-confessable one, is fundamentally theological, because the author of the rebellion is always the same, the eternally Defeated One...
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinio...fear-covid-19-the-vaccine-and-the-great-reset

One simply has to check out all the appalling news that is presented daily to see that demonic anarchy and lawlessness has now become the norm, while absolutely everyone simply stands by, and the courts support the evildoers. Since this is not "normal", the only Christian explanation for the present rise of evil in America and the world is colossal demonic activity.

Christians have no fear of Satan and his demons, but his minions are now going after churches and individual Christians to shut them down. It is therefore time for all believers to make up their minds as to how they will confront the powers of darkness with the power of God and the Word of God.

We all need to keep up our spiritual strength. Demons are using the media, and even our ministers are deep into being led by TV and the propaganda put out with the news. We follow social mores more than following the ways of Christ.

As we use the Lord's Prayer, we pray for our daily bread. Scripture is to be read both literally and spiritually. Our daily bread for our spirits should not include food for our lusts like dirty books, horror stories, or tales of murder. Today it is difficult to find good literature that does not feed our fleshly mind.

 

[Blade]

I have followed his ministry for some time now, and he is saying that there is a demonic force some where ( he uses the term zeitgeist) controlling the narrative, "repeating the lie until people believe it".
And that we are indeed in an actual dystopia even though many don't see it or believe it. And that part of that lie is that someone (science or govco) will fix what ever is wrong. And that we can continue in our oblivious fashion.
I don't know how you so misinterpreted what he said?

That man has been making videos for over 10 years. Do you know what he believes? I do. "That signs and wonders are from false prophets" So that dancing and "miracles are done by demonic spirits." Did you know that is not written? Odd to me how some seem to believe Satan has such great power he can do miracles! No he does lying wonders. But this not what I am getting at,.

This man called those "Christians doing that pagan worship". All that is man centered and selfish.. not of God. Oh he went on and on. This was about HIS belief that "group" he belongs to. Oh will say his own group has is problems yet when it comes to those others odd he was not as kind at all. Hes off here and taken some verses way out of context. Oh but man loves the lORD! Praise GOD glory to Jesus.

So there are some people I would not go to ask about these kind of things. All ANYONE has to do is seek pray ask the Christ to show you in HIS word if things are gone passed away don't happen anymore. Ask "can satan do miracles?" Which is silly since that would be a kingdom divided against its self. Satan comes to kill steal and destroy. There is no good in him.

See when Christ comes sets foot on the earth gathers the nations that just came out of the great tribulation. Those are the ones He splits not you and me (is what I believe). Those are the ones that did signs and wonders. Did Christ say those were not from Him or that He never knew them? And when He was sick they didn't come see him or in person they didn't come see Him.

That name of JESUS has to work every time! Strange how in Jesus day when that one man was going out do thing the same things and they wanted to make hims stop Christ said "if he is for me he is not against me". Goats where never saved. Christ NEVER .. never knew them. And signs follow THEM that believe. There were 120 not just 12 in the upper room. On and on.

When things are going bad for us or someone we love really bad.. oh THEN Hes real then He heals and then the GIFTS might happen. All one has to do is ASK HIM.. ask from your heart.. ask because you truly want to know. If you already believe you know He will say nothing. You will receive what you believe. If you don't believe then you will never see..

Demons over taking no.. out there yes. He told us to cast out demons speak with new tongues. ANYONE that says Jesus came in the flesh died on the cross for the worlds sin was buried rose the 3rd day is the only way to the Father <---no demon no fallen angel can say this. Those that do are of HIM! Now I may disagree on some DOCTRINE but I will NOT hurt them make fun of them. No matter how we twist it.. if we do we are making fun of HIM.. if you have done it to the least of these MY brethren you have done it un to me.

Theres no doctrines in that. You and I don't get to pick and choose..sorry .. got lost in this. So no.. demons are out there but greater is HE that is in YOU then he thats in the world. You have ALL power ALL authority over them

 

[Nebuchadnezzer]

We know from the book of Revelation (chapter 9 and others) that there will come a time when demons will take control of earthlings and perpetrate great evil on the earth. While that may be yet future in its proper fulfilment, the madness that has entered into American cities and into its federal government appears to be controlled demonically.

And when one looks beyond the USA at what has happened (and is happening) in the world over the last 12 months, it clearly shows that the powers of darkness are winning over the rule of law and over sanity on a daily basis. Even the pope has blatantly gone on over to the side of the globalists and liars (not that we expect much from him in the first place).

Christians may not be generally familiar with staunchly Catholic Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano. But he (as opposed to the pope) is one of the few people who has grasped what has happened in the world and connected it to Satan. Though we may differ with his theology he is speaking truth below:

...It must be recognized that the apparent illogicality of what we see happening – the boycotting of preventative treatments, erroneous therapies, ineffective vaccines, lockdowns with no usefulness, the use of masks that are absolutely useless – makes perfect sense as soon as we understand that the declared purpose – defeating the alleged pandemic – is a lie, and that the real purpose is the planning of an economic, social, and religious crisis using an artfully provoked pseudo-pandemic as a tool. Only in this way can we understand that the simultaneity and univocity of the provisions adopted by various nations, the aligned narration of the media, and the behavior of political leaders. There is a single script under a single direction, which makes use of the collaboration and complicity of politicians and rulers, doctors and scientists, bishops and priests, journalists and intellectuals, actors and influencers, multinationals and bankers, public employees and speculators. Profits and gains are instrumental to this, because they purchase and assure the loyalty of subordinates, but this war – may we never forget this! – is an ideological and religious war.

Two opposite worlds
This crisis serves to create the conditions necessary to make the Great Reset inevitable, that is, the transition from the world based on Greco-Roman civilization and Christianity to a world without a soul, without roots, without ideals. In practice, it is the passage from the Kingdom of Christ to the Kingdom of the Antichrist, from a virtuous society that punishes evildoers to the impious and wicked society that punishes the good. That detestable idea of “equality” that was earlier instilled in us by freethinkers has now been used to equate good and evil, right and wrong, beautiful and ugly, under the pretext of recognizing freedom of expression; today it serves to promote evil, injustice, and what is wrong, and even make them obligatory, in order to delegitimize and prohibit goodness, justice, and beauty.

Consistent with this vision, ecumenism too – which was initially introduced into the sacred enclosure by the Council under the pretext of bringing back heretics and schismatics – today shows its antichristic charge, incorporating all the false religions into a pantheon but proscribing the Apostolic Roman Catholic Religion, because it is the only true one and as such is irreconcilable with doctrinal error and moral deviation. We therefore ought to understand that, if we do not passively witness the changes underway and we do not allow the globalist ideology to be imposed on us in all of its most abject forms, we will soon be considered criminals, hostes publici because we are faithful to a jealous God who does not tolerate mixing with idols and prostitution. The deception of liberty, equality, and fraternity propagated by Masonry consists precisely in usurping the primacy of God to give it to Satan, with the apparent pretext – which is in any case erroneous and immoral – of placing God and Satan on the same level in such a way as to allow an alleged freedom of choice that morally does not exist. But the final purpose, the true and un-confessable one, is fundamentally theological, because the author of the rebellion is always the same, the eternally Defeated One...
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinio...fear-covid-19-the-vaccine-and-the-great-reset

One simply has to check out all the appalling news that is presented daily to see that demonic anarchy and lawlessness has now become the norm, while absolutely everyone simply stands by, and the courts support the evildoers. Since this is not "normal", the only Christian explanation for the present rise of evil in America and the world is colossal demonic activity.

Christians have no fear of Satan and his demons, but his minions are now going after churches and individual Christians to shut them down. It is therefore time for all believers to make up their minds as to how they will confront the powers of darkness with the power of God and the Word of God.

Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano wants you to believe that the enemy (Roman Church) of your enemy (political progressives) is your friend. Don't buy the lie!!!

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

I couldn't get past "earthlings"

 

[S3RV4NT]

I have followed his ministry for some time now, and he is saying that there is a demonic force some where ( he uses the term zeitgeist) controlling the narrative, "repeating the lie until people believe it".
And that we are indeed in an actual dystopia even though many don't see it or believe it. And that part of that lie is that someone (science or govco) will fix what ever is wrong. And that we can continue in our oblivious fashion.
I don't know how you so misinterpreted what he said?

I posted that video as a confirmation that there is indeed demonic powers afoot, and they are controlling the narrative via the media.

That I totally agree with. I watched it a third time and still didn't glean your exact impression of what he was saying.

But I have never seen or heard anything from him before. Maybe I interpreted him wrong.

 

[S3RV4NT]

the world system yes but that too is limited control only able to do what God allows and IF HIS People turn from their wicked ways humble the selves and pray and seek His face He would hear from heaven Forgive their sins and heal their land.

This perspective of the world is very modern mainstream Christian ... in my opinion.

*The idea that there is evil in the world in certain crooks and crannies, down some dark alleys and in select small factions of govt, etc, but the world at large belongs to God.*

I believe, after many years of studying The Book AND the world, that it is actually very much the opposite. The enemy owns and controls this world from the bottom to the very top since the moment of the Fall in the Garden. This has been very cunningly hidden from the masses for the duration of the existence of this world.

"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist." -Charles Baudelaire

The school system from kindergarten (a german word for child garden) all the way up through universities and especially seminaries.
All govt institutions and every aspect of the legal system. The food and drug administration and everything involved therein. The National Park organizations and all Nature Preservation organizations as well as the Smithsonian Institution and so on ... all the most trusted and most 'assumed-to-be-upright-and-honest' parts of our world are completely corrupt to the gills.

Until one understands this, it is truly not possible to perceive the scope of the true nature of this world.

If you believe you are saved and protected, you live your entire life with your guard down. It is only when you understand that the enemy is with you always, watching and waiting constantly for the next opportunity to trip you up.

ESPECIALLY if you are a Christian.

Paul had a messenger of satan (demon) that God refused to remove for him; this was to keep Paul humble.
(2 Cor. 12:7)
He commented that this demon battled him regularly when he intended to do good deeds and often causing him to do things that he had no desire to do.
(Romans 7:15-21)

No, this was not a demonic possession, but a demonic influence that we are all susceptible to; especially those of us who seek God very sincerely in spirit and in Truth. You can absolutely be troubled by the demonic if you have the Holy Spirit - and God allows it!


Evil is absolutely everywhere in this world and it actually helps the sincere Christian to know this in order to have the victory. That is why it is so mocked and ridiculed if anybody ever mentions demons or their presence in the world because the world does not want that to be widely known or understood.

It is very beneficial to the enemy for the world, and Christians specifically, to take him and his army's dynamics very lightly.

And so it is.

 

[CS1]

This perspective of the world is very modern mainstream Christian ... in my opinion.

*The idea that there is evil in the world in certain crooks and crannies, down some dark alleys and in select small factions of govt, etc, but the world at large belongs to God.*

I believe, after many years of studying The Book AND the world, that it is actually very much the opposite. The enemy owns and controls this world from the bottom to the very top since the moment of the Fall in the Garden. This has been very cunningly hidden from the masses for the duration of the existence of this world.

"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist." -Charles Baudelaire

The school system from kindergarten (a german word for child garden) all the way up through universities and especially seminaries.
All govt institutions and every aspect of the legal system. The food and drug administration and everything involved therein. The National Park organizations and all Nature Preservation organizations as well as the Smithsonian Institution and so on ... all the most trusted and most 'assumed-to-be-upright-and-honest' parts of our world are completely corrupt to the gills.

Until one understands this, it is truly not possible to perceive the scope of the true nature of this world.

If you believe you are saved and protected, you live your entire life with your guard down. It is only when you understand that the enemy is with you always, watching and waiting constantly for the next opportunity to trip you up.

ESPECIALLY if you are a Christian.

Paul had a messenger of satan (demon) that God refused to remove for him; this was to keep Paul humble.
(2 Cor. 12:7)
He commented that this demon battled him regularly when he intended to do good deeds and often causing him to do things that he had no desire to do.
(Romans 7:15-21)

No, this was not demonic possession, but a demonic influence that we are all susceptible to; especially those of us who seek God very sincerely in spirit and in Truth. You can absolutely be troubled by the demonic if you have the Holy Spirit - and God allows it!


Evil is absolutely everywhere in this world and it actually helps the sincere Christian to know this in order to have the victory. That is why it is so mocked and ridiculed if anybody ever mentions demons or their presence in the world because the world does not want that to be widely known or understood.

It is very beneficial to the enemy for the world, and Christians specifically, to take him and his army's dynamics very lightly.

And so it is.

I f you are referring to my comment as Modren, then you do not know anything about Modren Christianity.

Modern Christianity doesn't preach hell from the Pulpit because it scares people. Saying GOD AND BELIEVING He can bring revival in an evil time is what God desires to do. "The Church"

That Jesus talked about He said the gate of Hell will not prevail. No one here is assuming one is good that is why we pray and speak the truth and reality of Hell and Jesus is the only way out.

Yes, the devil is running the world system BUT God created the World which HE calls HIS FOOTSTOOL, not the devil's footstool.
Nor and I saying the devil doesn't exist Jesus said he was a murderer from the beginning, But I ALSO read and believe that

GREATER IS HE(Jesus ) IN ME then he that is IN the WORLD!!!. I am not afraid of a devil, and I fear no man. That is not complacency nor being ignorant of the enemy or his ability. BUT Jesus went about DEstroying all the works of the devil !!! And we are to do that very same Work.

 

[Magenta]

I couldn't get past "earthlings"

 

[Blik]

This perspective of the world is very modern mainstream Christian ... in my opinion.

*The idea that there is evil in the world in certain crooks and crannies, down some dark alleys and in select small factions of govt, etc, but the world at large belongs to God.*

I believe, after many years of studying The Book AND the world, that it is actually very much the opposite. The enemy owns and controls this world from the bottom to the very top since the moment of the Fall in the Garden. This has been very cunningly hidden from the masses for the duration of the existence of this world.

"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist." -Charles Baudelaire

The school system from kindergarten (a german word for child garden) all the way up through universities and especially seminaries.
All govt institutions and every aspect of the legal system. The food and drug administration and everything involved therein. The National Park organizations and all Nature Preservation organizations as well as the Smithsonian Institution and so on ... all the most trusted and most 'assumed-to-be-upright-and-honest' parts of our world are completely corrupt to the gills.

Until one understands this, it is truly not possible to perceive the scope of the true nature of this world.

If you believe you are saved and protected, you live your entire life with your guard down. It is only when you understand that the enemy is with you always, watching and waiting constantly for the next opportunity to trip you up.

ESPECIALLY if you are a Christian.

Paul had a messenger of satan (demon) that God refused to remove for him; this was to keep Paul humble.
(2 Cor. 12:7)
He commented that this demon battled him regularly when he intended to do good deeds and often causing him to do things that he had no desire to do.
(Romans 7:15-21)

No, this was not a demonic possession, but a demonic influence that we are all susceptible to; especially those of us who seek God very sincerely in spirit and in Truth. You can absolutely be troubled by the demonic if you have the Holy Spirit - and God allows it!


Evil is absolutely everywhere in this world and it actually helps the sincere Christian to know this in order to have the victory. That is why it is so mocked and ridiculed if anybody ever mentions demons or their presence in the world because the world does not want that to be widely known or understood.

It is very beneficial to the enemy for the world, and Christians specifically, to take him and his army's dynamics very lightly.

And so it is.

The bottom line is a decision we each need to make--we must decide if we are to be led by the media, literature, universities, or science or if we are to be led by the word. Our bodies are fed by food, our minds are fed by what we put in them. Our bodies use the food and then eliminates it, but from our infancy the mind retains food we give it.

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

That I totally agree with. I watched it a third time and still didn't glean your exact impression of what he was saying.

But I have never seen or heard anything from him before. Maybe I interpreted him wrong.

He is one of the guys that I watch that brought toy attention how no matter where you look you see the same narratives pushed, and that even the opposing argument seem to be coming from the same sources. It's like the demonic forces that controll the narratives is pushing both sides of the arguement. That they do it to keep is blinded to the truth. So we focus on the argument and don't see what is really happening.
He is pretty quick to call this stuff demonic. He says that our world is actually a dystopian fallen world that is white washes and glossed over with promises to fix what ever issue arrives. Like masks and vaccines for the dread covid. But it's really just placebo

I know main stream evangelical western Christianity says we are all nuts for thinking that Satan is trying to get is to worship ourselves into destruction and that the socio political narratives are controlled by Satan and his demons, but don't be so defensive. There are some who agree with us.

 

[jb]

It is neither whining nor complaining to present the reality of the spiritual warfare that is in the political and social realms. Most people are not aware that what is happening today is intense spiritual warfare. And your assumption that I am doing nothing is equally false.

I didn't say you in particular did not pray for your government/country, however, to such a response to my post I ask, " do YOU have a guilty conscience?" LOL

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

I didn't say you in particular did not pray for your government/country, however, to such a response to my post I ask, " do YOU have a guilty conscience?" LOL

I pray psalm 109, 137, and 139 for govco officials.

 

[CS1]

Well, ... they won't. But as it stands, this world belongs to the enemy.

"... we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness."
(1 John 5:19)
"... the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them who believe not ..."
(2 Corinthians 4:4)

Yes, he is defeated, but his time does not come to an end until the triumphal return of our Lord. And then of course he will be released again at the end of the thousand years, etc. ... all for another discussion.

We are strangers in this world; we are in it, but not of it.
(1 Peter 2:11) (John 15:19) (1 John 2:15-16)



Well, we are in a daily battle for our souls. The warfare rages endlessly until we take our last breath. Those who don't understand that the enemy is constantly seeking our destruction are the most vulnerable, or are already gravely compromised.

"... your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: "
(1 Peter 5:8)

Yes, we must resist him and he will flee (James 4:7), 'IF' we fully and completely resist him, but he always returns at a more opportune time when our guard is down to test us again and again.

"And when the devil had ended all the temptation (of Jesus), he departed from Him for a season."
(Luke 4:13)

This is by God's brilliant design. For it is only those who resist and endure to the very end who will be saved.

"... he that shall endure to the end, ... shall be saved."
(Matthew 24:13)

It is only those who travel the narrow road who will find their way to the kingdom. The vast majority of 'professed' Christians are marching hand-in-hand down the wide road that leads to destruction.

"Enter ye in at the strait (narrow) gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."
(Matthew 7:13-14)

The reason for this is that 99.9% of modern mainstream churches do not teach Biblical Truth. Just as God has spoken:

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge."
(Hosea 4:6)

Those who do not develop a deep and sincere love for the Truth (or Jesus), will be blinded by lies, false doctrine and worldly deception and ultimately lost.

"And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the Truth, that they might be saved."
(2 Thess. 2:10)

You need to reread 1pet 5:8 as a roaring lion NOT a roaring Lion We have a real lion, the Lion of Judah. The God I serve made a show of Him openly.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of Knowledge I don't see where it says we are to fear the devil? Jesus said fear NOT.

 

[S3RV4NT]

You need to reread 1pet 5:8 as a roaring lion NOT a roaring Lion We have a real lion, the Lion of Judah. The God I serve made a show of Him openly.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of Knowledge I don't see where it says we are to fear the devil? Jesus said fear NOT.

1st Peter was written long after Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection. Peter, one of His greatest apostles and one of the most accomplished Bible contributors, seemed to believe that warning us about the devil and his dynamics was a worthy contribution to his books and I can promise you that if God did not agree, it wouldn't be included in scripture.

I never said anything about fearing the devil, but one of the problems with today's watered down Christianity is the total lack of awareness that he exists and is a force to be reckoned with.

No soldier in battle could ever be the slightest bit effective if he knew nothing of his enemy, not to mention his complete incompetence if he didn't even believe he exists - which some Christians sadly do not.

"Thou therefore endure hardness (hardship, difficulty), as a good soldier of Jesus Christ." (2 Tim. 2:3)

A soldier is not simply a teacher. A soldier is not simply a messenger. A soldier is not simply a medic who heals and comforts the wounded.

A soldier is involved in warfare. Plain and simple.

Nobody is saying anybody should Fear the enemy. But you can rest assured you had better know as much as you can about him and how he operates, when and how he attacks and exactly what he is capable of ... or you will not stand a chance.

If God never intended for us to fight or have any dealings with the enemy at all, He wouldn't have allowed him to be in the world to test and try us regularly.

God fully intends for us to endure trials and tribulations at the devil's hands to develop perseverance and strength and to learn how to use prayer and God's Power to defeat evil.

It's not my opinion that we should be aware of the enemy and aware that we are in a spiritual battle for our very souls; it is the foundation of the story of the Bible - from beginning to end. Even Jesus battled satan in His physical life upon the earth and we are to live as Jesus lived in every way.

 

[Nehemiah6]

... do YOU have a guilty conscience?" LOL

Sure. I am guilty of exposing all the nonsense that is being foisted on an unsuspecting public. Even some Christians are believing the lies being spewed.

 

[S3RV4NT]

Sure. I am guilty of exposing all the nonsense that is being foisted on an unsuspecting public. Even some Christians are believing the lies being spewed.

Some?



Correct you are, sir.

 

[posthuman]

We know from the book of Revelation (chapter 9 and others) that there will come a time when demons will take control of earthlings and perpetrate great evil on the earth.

show me the verse that says what you are saying??

but look:

​

And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; ​

and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. ​

(Revelation 9:6)​

​

do people physically die today? yes.
therefore we are not in that day.


[/endthread]

 

[posthuman]

He is one of the guys that I watch that brought toy attention how no matter where you look you see the same narratives pushed, and that even the opposing argument seem to be coming from the same sources. It's like the demonic forces that controll the narratives is pushing both sides of the arguement. That they do it to keep is blinded to the truth. So we focus on the argument and don't see what is really happening.
He is pretty quick to call this stuff demonic. He says that our world is actually a dystopian fallen world that is white washes and glossed over with promises to fix what ever issue arrives. Like masks and vaccines for the dread covid. But it's really just placebo

I know main stream evangelical western Christianity says we are all nuts for thinking that Satan is trying to get is to worship ourselves into destruction and that the socio political narratives are controlled by Satan and his demons, but don't be so defensive. There are some who agree with us.

the world didn't only recently become, "the world"

 

[S3RV4NT]

​

And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; ​

and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. ​

(Revelation 9:6)​

​

do people physically die today? yes.
therefore we are not in that day.


[/endthread]

Well, ... we might be in that day. That verse doesn't read ALL men.

There could certainly be SOME men alive today who seek death but can't die due to technological enhancements. YOU of all people would be aware of this. Transhuman/Posthuman technology is ... preeetty much here. Wouldn't you say?

Neuralink is WELL into testing and this type of technology has been known of and experimented on monkeys for many years now. Neither of us can prove for certain whether or not it's being tested on humans in one or more multi-million dollar 'hush-hush' facilities around the world or ... (gulp) ... under ground?

You're clearly a Post-humanist so ... what's your take? That it's all fantasy and make believe?

Surely not.

 

[posthuman]

Well, ... we might be in that day. That verse doesn't read ALL men.

There could certainly be SOME men alive today who seek death but can't die due to technological enhancements. YOU of all people would be aware of this. Transhuman/Posthuman technology is ... preeetty much here. Wouldn't you say?

Neuralink is WELL into testing and this type of technology has been known of and experimented on monkeys for many years now. Neither of us can prove for certain whether or not it's being tested on humans in one or more multi-million dollar 'hush-hush' facilities around the world or ... (gulp) ... under ground?

You're clearly a Post-humanist so ... what's your take? That it's all fantasy and make believe?

Surely not.

there's no one defeating physical death today.
plenty of super-rich people are trying to.

the ground is cursed for our sake. Revelation 9:6 isn't describing a good thing, but a terrible judgement.
no one today is trying desperately to die and finding it impossible.