The Gospel??

[Platosgal]

What IS " The Gospel"?
I am musing on Christ " Pre Cross" sending 70 disciples out to " Preach the Gospel"
I have the idea ( and I can be wrong - please correct me if so)
I am thinking " The Gospel" may be the very Presence of Christ
And that the repentance of sins PLUS Christs presence is the good news that we can escape the curse of sin?
Help me out smartie biblical scholars..I find this a very important bit of information to get right.

 

[Hevosmies]

1 Corinthians 15:1-4
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Romans 3:23-28
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

 

[Nehemiah6]

I am thinking " The Gospel" may be the very Presence of Christ

True. Christ Himself is the Gospel. He is called God's Salvation, since "Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners". After His death, burial, and resurrection, repentance and remission of sins can be preached in His name.

And [Christ] said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. (Luke 24:46,47)

 

[Blik]

True. Christ Himself is the Gospel. He is called God's Salvation, since "Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners". After His death, burial, and resurrection, repentance and remission of sins can be preached in His name.

And [Christ] said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. (Luke 24:46,47)

This is so true.

Christ was the very first thing God did for us the minute sin entered our world. Sin killed, and God wanted all people to live, giving blood on the altar was God's first response, the first thing God did for us.. The entire bible that men have divided in two is about this plan of our eternal God. It is the gospel.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

What IS " The Gospel"?
I am musing on Christ " Pre Cross" sending 70 disciples out to " Preach the Gospel"
I have the idea ( and I can be wrong - please correct me if so)
I am thinking " The Gospel" may be the very Presence of Christ
And that the repentance of sins PLUS Christs presence is the good news that we can escape the curse of sin?
Help me out smartie biblical scholars..I find this a very important bit of information to get right.

Gospel means good news. The good news is Christ. The means of salvation.

 

[Guojing]

What IS " The Gospel"?
I am musing on Christ " Pre Cross" sending 70 disciples out to " Preach the Gospel"
I have the idea ( and I can be wrong - please correct me if so)
I am thinking " The Gospel" may be the very Presence of Christ
And that the repentance of sins PLUS Christs presence is the good news that we can escape the curse of sin?
Help me out smartie biblical scholars..I find this a very important bit of information to get right.

The gospel pre-cross and until Acts 7 can be found in John 20:31. Believe that Jesus is the Messiah and Son of God, and you will be saved in the future.

Now, the gospel is found in 1 Cor 15:1-4, Believe that Christ died on the cross for your sins and rose again on the 3rd day for your justification and you can be saved right now.

 

[Nehemiah6]

The gospel pre-cross and until Acts 7 can be found in John 20:31. Believe that Jesus is the Messiah and Son of God, and you will be saved in the future.

At the time of His baptism Christ was identified as the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world (by John the Baptist). So that would have been part of believing on the Messiah. And in Acts 2, Peter presented the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ as the Gospel.

 

[Nehemiah6]

The good news is Christ. The means of salvation.

The means of salvation, and salvation itself.
JESUS = YESHUA = YAHSHUA = YAH + SHUA = GOD IS [OUR] SALVATION.
But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us Wisdom, and Righteousness, and Sanctification, and Redemption: (1 Cor 1:30)

 

[Guojing]

At the time of His baptism Christ was identified as the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world (by John the Baptist). So that would have been part of believing on the Messiah. And in Acts 2, Peter presented the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ as the Gospel.

Read acts 2 properly, especially Peter’s conclusion in acts 2:36

Peter did not say Christ died for the sins of Israel. He died because he was crucified by the Jews.

Peter did not say Christ was resurrected because Israel sins are put away. He was resurrected because he is the son of God.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

The means of salvation, and salvation itself.
JESUS = YESHUA = YAHSHUA = YAH + SHUA = GOD IS [OUR] SALVATION.
But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us Wisdom, and Righteousness, and Sanctification, and Redemption: (1 Cor 1:30)

As said

 

[Platosgal]

I think the question that I was asking was not clear
In Luke 10:1-17

and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.
2Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.
3Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.
4Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way.
5And into whatsoever house ye enter, first say, Peace be to this house.
6And if the son of peace be there, your peace shall rest upon it: if not, it shall turn to you again.
7And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.
8And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you:
9And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.
10But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say,
11Even the very dust of your city, which cleaveth on us, we do wipe off against you: notwithstanding be ye sure of this, that the kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.
12But I say unto you, that it shall be more tolerable in that day for Sodom, than for that city.
13Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works had been done in Tyre and Sidon, which have been done in you, they had a great while ago repented, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.
14But it shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment, than for you.
15And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell.
16He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.
17And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
THIS event happened Pre-cross

So the Gospel is perhaps
Repent and be saved.

I think the missing key in today's Christianity is the REPENT element

 

[phil36]

The gospel is the good news concerning Jesus Himself. That includes His life, death and burial.

Repentance is our response to this goodnews by and through Faith.

 

[Platosgal]

The gospel is the good news concerning Jesus Himself. That includes His life, death and burial.

Repentance is our response to this goodnews by and through Faith.

Brother what I am getting at is JESUS sent out disciples PRE Cross - Pre Revealing himself as the Christ
What did the 70 preach? What good news did they express?

Was it - Repent and be baptized?
Combined with the actual presence of Jesus on earth that gave them power to heal and cast out devils?

And if so in Acts as we see there was Power in the believers actions because of the Holy Spirits empowerment
But didn't they All have one catalytic step in common?
Repentance?

Therefore is the Bible telling us -Repent and be saved??

 

[Guojing]

I think the question that I was asking was not clear
In Luke 10:1-17

and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.
2Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.
3Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.
4Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way.
5And into whatsoever house ye enter, first say, Peace be to this house.
6And if the son of peace be there, your peace shall rest upon it: if not, it shall turn to you again.
7And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.
8And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you:
9And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.
10But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say,
11Even the very dust of your city, which cleaveth on us, we do wipe off against you: notwithstanding be ye sure of this, that the kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.
12But I say unto you, that it shall be more tolerable in that day for Sodom, than for that city.
13Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works had been done in Tyre and Sidon, which have been done in you, they had a great while ago repented, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.
14But it shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment, than for you.
15And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell.
16He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.
17And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
THIS event happened Pre-cross

So the Gospel is perhaps
Repent and be saved.

I think the missing key in today's Christianity is the REPENT element

Repentance was needed from Israel under the gospel of the kingdom (Acts 2:38, etc).

For us under Paul's gospel of grace, its not needed, as stated in 1 Cor 15:1-4, Romans 10:9, Romans 4:5 etc.

 

[Platosgal]

Repentance was needed from Israel under the gospel of the kingdom.

For us under Paul's gospel of grace, its not needed, as stated in 1 Cor 15:1-4, Romans 10:9, Romans 4:5 etc.

Sorry friend
This arrogant statement cannot be correct

Absolutely not- no wonder there are women and transvestites running the Church

No Repentance = No sovereignty of God

No wonder the world is in Such a state

No - with out Repentance there is no Gospel
Read the whole Bible as it is
Without anyone telling you and you will see

We must repent

Turn away from OUR sin

 

[phil36]

Brother what I am getting at is JESUS sent out disciples PRE Cross - Pre Revealing himself as the Christ
What did the 70 preach? What good news did they express?

Was it - Repent and be baptized?
Combined with the actual presence of Jesus on earth that gave them power to heal and cast out devils?

And if so in Acts as we see there was Power in the believers actions because of the Holy Spirits empowerment
But didn't they All have one catalytic step in common?
Repentance?

Therefore is the Bible telling us -Repent and be saved??

Hi Platosgirl,

Sorry about that I don't think my answer above was clear. The seventy would have proclaimed Jesus the Messiah/Christ. The correct response would have been to believe and repent of their sins.

(pre cross Christ was teaching about Himself and what his life means and what he was about to do (in context of what had already been prohesised about and foreshadowed). He was indeed the Messiah (Christ). the only correct response to this is repent and believe.

They were to proclaim as Jesus did - The kingdom of God has come near to you.’ Kingdom life is now present (Jesus the Messiah/Christ) with signs of the Kingdom reality (Luke 10).

Indeed God commands all men everywhere to repent and believe in response to the Good news (Gospel).

In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. (Acts 17:30).

 

[Guojing]

Sorry friend
This arrogant statement cannot be correct

Absolutely not- no wonder there are women and transvestites running the Church

No Repentance = No sovereignty of God

No wonder the world is in Such a state

No - with out Repentance there is no Gospel
Read the whole Bible as it is
Without anyone telling you and you will see

We must repent

Turn away from OUR sin

Well think of it this way, the moment one believes the gospel found in 1 Cor 15:1-4, from God's perspective, that is repentance.

 

[Platosgal]

Well think of it this way, the moment one believes the gospel found in 1 Cor 15:1-4, from God's perspective, that is repentance.

No

Read Acts 26

Paul clearly states we must repent and turn from satans power to God

Read specifically Acts 26:16 -18

Its Paul's calling to teach Repentance

We must repent - turn from our sins and compromised ideas

Or he will shut the door in our face and say I never knew you!!

 

[Platosgal]

Hi Platosgirl,

Sorry about that I don't think my answer above was clear. The seventy would have proclaimed Jesus the Messiah/Christ. The correct response would have been to believe and repent of their sins.

(pre cross Christ was teaching about Himself and what his life means and what he was about to do (in context of what had already been prohesised about and foreshadowed). He was indeed the Messiah (Christ). the only correct response to this is repent and believe.

They were to proclaim as Jesus did - The kingdom of God has come near to you.’ Kingdom life is now present (Jesus the Messiah/Christ) with signs of the Kingdom reality (Luke 10).

Indeed God commands all men everywhere to repent and believe in response to the Good news (Gospel).

In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. (Acts 17:30).

Yes-!!

Awesome answer

 

[Guojing]

No

Read Acts 26

Paul clearly states we must repent and turn from satans power to God

Read specifically Acts 26:16 -18

Its Paul's calling to teach Repentance

We must repent - turn from our sins and compromised ideas

Or he will shut the door in our face and say I never knew you!!

Ever wonder why the only time repentance was ever linked to Paul was in Acts, and not anywhere in Romans to Philemon?