Catholics are the "new Black" (and related concerns)

[DeanM]

There were many evil popes throughout the dark ages. Many protestants were burned at the stake during the reformation. The early RC motto was, keep it in Latin, keep them ignorant and declare decenters heretics and torture and murder them.

 

[JesusWhereRU]

There were many evil popes throughout the dark ages. Many protestants were burned at the stake during the reformation. The early RC motto was, keep it in Latin, keep them ignorant and declare decenters heretics and torture and murder them.

but who cares about priests who were killed when Queen Elizabeth ruled... and at other times in history..

And I have, in all my studies, never come across that thing about "keep it in Latin to keep people ignorant..."

When the church used Latin, it also always had the English (or whatever language the people spoke) right alongside it.

There are a lot of LIES circulating in society about the Catholic Church

The ironic thing is

I have found there is no need for lies if you want to attack the Church. The truth (about infiltration, bad clergy) is quite sufficient

 

[JesusWhereRU]

To be Bible believing would mean to give up Catholicism. So no. Catholics do not reject the Bible, but it is generally irrelevant to Catholic doctrine and practice. Take devotion to Mary as an example. That is clearly not taught in Scripture, but it is a primary aspect of Roman Catholicism.

yes, it is taught in Scripture

If you want to know the truth about the RCC you can take a RCIA class, free in most parishes. I have limited time to explain it all

 

[JesusWhereRU]

It is official catholic doctrine that ALL catholic popes from the start of the church have been INFALLIBLE representatives of God.. So any teaching or actions carried out by catholics under the command / authority of catholic popes down through that religions history MUST be accepted as true and good..

No catholic can accuse any former pope or current pope of being corrupt in regards to their teachings.. If a catholic declares the actions or teachings of a pope to be false / fake they are no longer catholic..

you do not understand the doctrine of infallibility. As I told one person here, if you want to understand the truth about Catholicism you can take a RCIA class, free in most parishes. I pray you don't get some liberal teacher .. sigh...

it's like anything else... sometimes you have to search for the truth... but it is there. However,

Anyone who knows the Bible can tell a true teacher of Christianity from a false one

 

[JesusWhereRU]

It is official catholic doctrine that ALL catholic popes from the start of the church have been INFALLIBLE representatives of God.. So any teaching or actions carried out by catholics under the command / authority of catholic popes down through that religions history MUST be accepted as true and good..

No catholic can accuse any former pope or current pope of being corrupt in regards to their teachings.. If a catholic declares the actions or teachings of a pope to be false / fake they are no longer catholic..

this is not true...

it is propaganda.. just like what was launched against Trump by haters and those who do not put truth first

 

[JesusWhereRU]

The catholic church doctrine of purgatory is not in alignment with the Holy Bible.. es..

yes, there are scriptures in the Bible in reference to a place of purgation that happens after death if a person is not bad enough for Hell but not pure enough for Heaven where (as Revelation says) "no unclean thing will enter"

I think of 1 Cor 3:13 (I think that is the right psg) where it says that if a man's work is.. I'll use the word Insufficient, his work may fail but he himself will be saved, yet as through fire..

and there is Mt 18:23..

 

[JesusWhereRU]

To be Bible believing would mean to give up Catholicism. So no. Catholics do not reject the Bible, but it is generally irrelevant to Catholic doctrine and practice. Take devotion to Mary as an example. That is clearly not taught in Scripture, but it is a primary aspect of Roman Catholicism.

not so

almost every non Catholic has been lied to about the Church

and like i say elsewhere: You need not listen to or promote lies in attacking the problems in the Church

the TRUTH about what is really going in the Church is beyond sufficient...

People need to focus on what is REALLY wrong, not what some pastor or whomevder SAys is wrong

 

[DeanM]

but who cares about priests who were killed when Queen Elizabeth ruled... and at other times in history..

And I have, in all my studies, never come across that thing about "keep it in Latin to keep people ignorant..."

When the church used Latin, it also always had the English (or whatever language the people spoke) right alongside it.

There are a lot of LIES circulating in society about the Catholic Church

The ironic thing is

I have found there is no need for lies if you want to attack the Church. The truth (about infiltration, bad clergy) is quite sufficient

but who cares about priests who were killed when Queen Elizabeth ruled... and at other times in history..

And I have, in all my studies, never come across that thing about "keep it in Latin to keep people ignorant..."

When the church used Latin, it also always had the English (or whatever language the people spoke) right alongside it.

There are a lot of LIES circulating in society about the Catholic Church

The ironic thing is

I have found there is no need for lies if you want to attack the Church. The truth (about infiltration, bad clergy) is quite sufficient

You havnt read much then.

 

[DeanM]

A Dark History: The Popes would be a good start for someone to educate themselves on Catholicism. And if German language bibles were available, "along side the Latin" why did Luther translate it?

 

[GaryA]

Gary,
Can you name me a protestant church that isn't dispensational and woke? What is the most conservative, non-dispensational protestant church that you know of?

Believe me - I understand.

Nonetheless, it does not change the facts/truth about the RCC.

Even a dispensational church that otherwise has good doctrine is far, far better than one that doesn't even preach and teach proper salvation doctrine.

 

[surfer14]

Believe me - I understand.

Nonetheless, it does not change the facts/truth about the RCC.

Even a dispensational church that otherwise has good doctrine is far, far better than one that doesn't even preach and teach proper salvation doctrine.

Gary,
After many years of having given up on church, I recently started going again because I found one that I actually enjoy going to...

1. No masks. They never stopped meeting during the virus, which one priest refers as the "plandemic."
2. Jam packed pews. If you want a seat you have to get there early. Otherwise you stand in the hall.
3. Everyone kneels when entering and exiting their pew. A little respect is so nice.
4. Women dress modestly and cover their hair. Men are less effeminate.
5. Tons of kids. Tons of babies.
6. A tighter community. They know and practice in-group preference.
7. This place is THE most anti-communist organization I've ever been around, including my time in Army specops. There is a prayer card they have there - "prayer against our marxist enemies."
8. Very pro-gun. Pro marriage. Pro-life. And they don't coddle sin.
9. They stand against freemasonry, and they don't worship jews.
10. For the first time, EVER, I have been inspired to worship God better. Never has that thought even crossed my mind before.
11. They do processionals where everyone walks through the neighborhood praying. Every time I do it, I feel like I'm on my way to liberate Constantinople! It's awesome. It's like you're bound to your Christian brothers of old.

So ya. They've got some stuff that's a bit different than what I grew up with, and I struggle with some of it. But everything I was ever taught (except Jesus) has turned out to be a lie, so maybe protestantism is just one more lie to add to the list? I don't know. I'm just searching for truth. We'll see.

 

[GaryA]

What kind of churches did you grow up in?

 

[surfer14]

What kind of churches did you grow up in?

Assembly of God. Non-denominational.

I spent 15 years helping lead their "Royal Rangers." (Christian boy scouts). Had to teach the "4 cardinal teachings of the church:
salvation
holy spirit
healing
rapture"

When I realized I had issues with 3 out of 4 of those I knew I needed to make a change.

 

[Smoke]

well, a few things

Catholics ARE Bible believing. It is a myth to think otherwise. In fact, if you goto Mass every day (not justSunday) you will hear in 3 years time, the entire Bible (minus some so-and-so-begat-so-and-so stuff...etc)

I learned Scripture from doing this, although I also have read the Bible... the New T many times over.

Anyway, I like the way the Catholic Church was the only Christian Church that did not cave to the culture and condone artificial birth control, the use of which has moral implications and that is why it is forbidden. And actually, the abc "issue" is what makes a lot of fake Catholics... I mean, if you reject one doctrine of a Church, you will reject another and another until you just begin to think that YOUR thoughts and your beliefs are totally right and no one who disagrees w/ you is... "Christian" or whatever.

so there are a lot of cafeteria catholics

I think know what you're referencing but can you be clear on what is "artificial birth control"? Would the pull out method be considered "genuine birth control"?

Just curious, why are you and Catholics against it? (I don't really know much about their beliefs.)

 

[JesusWhereRU]

A Dark History: The Popes would be a good start for someone to educate themselves on Catholicism. And if German language bibles were available, "along side the Latin" why did Luther translate it?

i have been to baptist, methodist and all kinds of "churches" and there was evil in every one

 

[JesusWhereRU]

Believe me - I understand.

Nonetheless, it does not change the facts/truth about the RCC.

Even a dispensational church that otherwise has good doctrine is far, far better than one that doesn't even preach and teach proper salvation doctrine.

how do u know? most Protestants don't have a clue what the Catholic Church REALLY teaches. All they get is distortions from their antiCatholic pastors (friends, relatives..)

I KNOW the Catholic faith, studied it rather in-depth. And as said b4 i dont disagree w/ anything the Church officially teaches. The problem is that priests and bishops and popes nowadays are not sticking to what the Church officially teaches. Some ARE. Maybe the majority of them are but you know how it goes: the squeaky wheel gets the grease

The Catholic Church teaches that you must be baptised in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit to be "eligible" for Heaven. if you die after the age of about 7 (the age of reason) and you are not good enough for Heaven but not bad enough for Hell, you go to Purgatory. I haven't had ONE Protestant argue with me about 1 Cor 3:15 which addresses how those who do not do "perfect" Christian work will be saved yet "as through fire." They don't argue with me about the word Until found in Mt 18:23 either...

so it is Protestants who do not adhere to t he Word of God a lot of the time... Both C and P are guilty of that, and you cannot deny that is true..

 

[JesusWhereRU]

I think know what you're referencing but can you be clear on what is "artificial birth control"? Would the pull out method be considered "genuine birth control"?

Just curious, why are you and Catholics against it? (I don't really know much about their beliefs.)

It puts an artificial barrier btwn you and your spouse

It says No to having children (being open to life). Natural methods of bc do not offend against that first thing, obviously

It separates the procreative from the unitive aspect of sexual relations that God gave us. ABC has in society effectively objectified women by removing the fertility aspect of sex. When it became possible to have sex for pleasure only... well, we see what has transpired...

One of the popes prophesied that abc would lead to legalized abortion.

 

[GaryA]

how do u know? most Protestants don't have a clue what the Catholic Church REALLY teaches. All they get is distortions from their antiCatholic pastors (friends, relatives..)

I am not most Protestants. In fact, I'm not even a Protestant. But, I have had more "exposure" to Catholic teachings than most non-Catholics.

The Catholic Church teaches that you must be baptised in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit to be "eligible" for Heaven. if you die after the age of about 7 (the age of reason) and you are not good enough for Heaven but not bad enough for Hell, you go to Purgatory.

None of this is biblical.

Baptism is not a requirement for salvation.

Ephesians 2:

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Catholicism teaches salvation by works.

There is no "good enough" - no one is good enough.

All of the 'good works' that everyone since Adam has done - collectively - cannot help save even a single soul.

One sin committed is "bad enough" to send someone straight to hell. It is only by the Grace of God that anyone can escape it.

There is no Purgatory.

I haven't had ONE Protestant argue with me about 1 Cor 3:15 which addresses how those who do not do "perfect" Christian work will be saved yet "as through fire."

The context is Rewards. It has nothing to do with Purgatory.

They don't argue with me about the word Until found in Mt 18:23 either...

The word 'Until' is not in Matthew 18:23; however, it is in verse 22 twice. Is this the verse you actually meant to make reference of?

 

[EnglishChick]

BTW, in case you don't know how the Lutheran Satire videos are produced, it's normally worth hanging on for an extra 20 seconds or so for their final, humorous thought (which always follows the credits)

I love the idea of Lutheran satire

 

[Adstar]

Anyone who knows the Bible can tell a true teacher of Christianity from a false one

Thats just not true.. For example You see the catholic religion as Christian.. As an ex catholic who read the Bible i thought all my fellow catholics would have to do is be shown the scriptures and they would all leave the evil catholic religion.. But no.. To my astonishment people reject the WORD of God and do their best to twist it to conform it to the doctrines of their church.. Some people are simply too loyal to their religous leader or their parents / community..