Is death hiding everlasting Life from carnal minds?
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Free will is the doctrine I was taught, that we "accept" the gift of Jesus' sacrifice. That it's offered to all, and those that "accept" it are saved and those that do not "accept" it are lost.
Invite Jesus into your heart and you will be saved. No fear of hell. No fear of destruction. All you have to do is accept the gift of salvation.
FreeGrace2 said:
The Tree of Life isn't available to any of us. It was in the Garden, and will become available to us in the New Jerusalem.
Rev 22
[QUOTEYes, Abel was the first known True Prophet of God. He couldn't have become a Prophet unless "fed" by Christ. [/QUOTE]
Again, source please.
what do you mean by "lifting the Curse"?
The Tree of Life isn't available to any of us. It was in the Garden, and will become available to us in the New Jerusalem.
Rev 22
Could you quote your source on this, please? And define what you mean by feed.
[QUOTEYes, Abel was the first known True Prophet of God. He couldn't have become a Prophet unless "fed" by Christ. [/QUOTE]
Again, source please.
You don't believe that Adam and Eve believed in the promised Messiah??!!
Your descriptions are more poetic than real. Jesus PAID THE SIN DEBT around circa 33 AD when He went to the cross.
what do you mean by "lifting the Curse"?
Well, he certainly laid down the rules of the "test."
Jesus tells us that the fruit of the tree of life is our reward. But, the tree of life actually is the Lord Jesus. So is the hidden mana. So is the glittering sword. So is the word. So is the morning star. So is the special white stone with a new name inscribed. So is the crown of life. All metaphors.
Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
Jesus is our reward.
lucifer is a big fan of hiding the Tree of Life.
Was the tempter a cherub?
What does "son of the morning" mean?
Could God placing Cherubim guarding the Tree of Life ..mean all Cherubim?
Was the tempter a cherub?
What does "son of the morning" mean?
Could God placing Cherubim guarding the Tree of Life ..mean all Cherubim?
Your definition is not accurate. You have been taught wrong.
First, salvation IS a free gift. Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Second, we "receive" the gift of eternal life (salvation) by believing what Jesus did on the cross. John 1:12 - Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God.
Third, salvation IS "offered to all". Titus 2:11 - For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people.
Fourth, those who believe in Christ ARE saved. Acts 16:31 - They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.”
Fifth, those who don't accept the gospel offer (don't believe) ARE lost and condemned.
John 3:18 - Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
2 Thess 2:12 - and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.
Your second paragraph about "inviting Jesus into your heart" is NOT the gospel. It is believing in Him that results in salvation.
Regarding "no fear of hell or destruction", what are you suggesting here? That salvation can be lost?
John 10:28 - I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.
John 5:24 teaches WHEN a person possesses eternal life: "“Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life."
Could you explain how you think a person is saved and going to heaven?
Thanks.
Luke 11:50-51 NIV - 50 Therefore this generation will be held responsible for the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the beginning of the world, 51 from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, this generation will be held responsible for it all.
Abel's Heart was clearly Circumcised by Christ. Abel was totally Purified, just as any True Prophet.
As for the definition of "Fed" . . . not to be rude, but I explained it already. Sorry.
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Since most of humanity is going to hell based on traditional view, why didn't God bring Judgement Day sooner (rather than later) to prevent more people from going to hell? Does the Bible say anything about this?
Judgment day arrives when all the works of Jesus have been completed.
Paul discusses this subject in Romans Chapter 11.
The lake of fire is complete separation from God. It's what people asked for by only being about themselves.
The only thing that matters in this reality is getting your sins on The Cross somehow.
It was a sincere question, not an attack. You are showing classic signs of paranoia, not everyone is out to 'get' you.
Are you getting what you just triggered? "weaken the nations!" means either satan was in the Garden with nations outside the Garden OR he wasn't satan until much later.
I triggered nothing, it was your own delusional fantasies that were triggered.
Why does it matter when satan became the beast? Does that threaten your Faith for some reason?
But that's all finished. That work was completed on the cross. That's the spiritual reality.
For us to know God is for God to know us.
God doesn't want to experience the sin in sinners, so He limits His own knowledge and allows this fallen place to exist. No one wants to admit to satan being the ruler and having authority. satan will be dethroned, but not yet. Jesus removed satan’s claim on us as long as we acknowledge what Jesus did on The Cross.
Bad things happen because we asked to be here following satan and to be about ourselves separated from God.
God is only going to allow the people He knows into Heaven, so stop sinning.