Awesome video, y'all. Hope you'll watch it.

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shittim

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always enjoy and grow from him
thank you and bless you
 

Gideon300

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It's been a problem for decades, but it is not always the preacher's fault. I "made a decision" at a Billy Graham meeting in 1967. Someone I knew went out at the same time. He got born again. I knew it. I could see the change and it freaked me out. Obviously I did not. It was 5 years before I was born again in reality. The effectiveness of preaching depends on the hearer as well as the word itself. (Parable of the sower).

Yes, there is a cheap, phony and watered down imitation gospel. It's given us the insipid make-believers that fill so-called churches. Statistically, around 4% of church goers in Australia are born again. Billy Graham was quoted as saying that he would be delighted if 4% of so-called conversions were for real.

The why the church in China, Iraq, North Korea and similar countries is much stronger than the Western world. It costs to be a believer in those places. It's all too easy in the Western world.
 

shittim

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the coming persecution in America may produce the same results since we failed to appreciate the man God raised up and now have the adversaries spawn.
 
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It's been a problem for decades, but it is not always the preacher's fault. I "made a decision" at a Billy Graham meeting in 1967. Someone I knew went out at the same time. He got born again. I knew it. I could see the change and it freaked me out. Obviously I did not. It was 5 years before I was born again in reality. The effectiveness of preaching depends on the hearer as well as the word itself. (Parable of the sower).

Yes, there is a cheap, phony and watered down imitation gospel. It's given us the insipid make-believers that fill so-called churches. Statistically, around 4% of church goers in Australia are born again. Billy Graham was quoted as saying that he would be delighted if 4% of so-called conversions were for real.

The why the church in China, Iraq, North Korea and similar countries is much stronger than the Western world. It costs to be a believer in those places. It's all too easy in the Western world.
I so agree with you, Gideon. I'm very concerned for the church, and I wouldn't be surprised if only 4% of professing Christians are saved and maybe even less. Gotta pray a lot for those who believe they're saved but aren't.