Franklin Graham says we should consider taking the vax.

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surfer14 said:
I don't trust Franklin Graham. At all. I think he's a sellout.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...aling-to-bodies-like-jesus-did/#disqus_thread
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Simple. Do as your conscience and common sense dictate. I won't take it because I react badly to flu vaccine. I would not advise anyone to take it or not take it. It's none of my business. Franklin Graham has his critics. I wonder how many of them have preached the gospel around the world? Let those who criticise show Mr Graham how it should be done.
 
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he can have mine

better yet, he should stick to what it is he is supposed to be doing...not pretending to be an MD
 
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surfer14 said:
I don't trust Franklin Graham. At all. I think he's a sellout.
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Franklin Graham to Evangelicals: Vaccines Bring Healing to Bodies Like Jesus Did

I am sorry to see that Franklin Graham did not do his homework before making that statement. The problem is that there will be hundreds of thousands who will be convinced that he has done his homework and go ahead and put themselves at serious risk.

1. It was very misleading to compare the miraculous healings of Christ with vaccines. This is psychological manipulation.

2. Vaccines DO NOT HEAL. Genuine vaccines immunize against viral infections.

3. The bogus vaccines for coronavirus are NOT vaccines. They are dangerous cocktails of biological and chemical ingredients designed to depopulate the world,

4. At present there are over 15,000 deaths from these "vaccines" just in the USA and Europe (we do not have numbers for other countries). And over 450,000 people have suffered from adverse effects, some of which are very serious.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
Franklin Graham to Evangelicals: Vaccines Bring Healing to Bodies Like Jesus Did

I am sorry to see that Franklin Graham did not do his homework before making that statement. The problem is that there will be hundreds of thousands who will be convinced that he has done his homework and go ahead and put themselves at serious risk.

1. It was very misleading to compare the miraculous healings of Christ with vaccines. This is psychological manipulation.

2. Vaccines DO NOT HEAL. Genuine vaccines immunize against viral infections.

3. The bogus vaccines for coronavirus are NOT vaccines. They are dangerous cocktails of biological and chemical ingredients designed to depopulate the world,

4. At present there are over 15,000 deaths from these "vaccines" just in the USA and Europe (we do not have numbers for other countries). And over 450,000 people have suffered from adverse effects, some of which are very serious.
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my husband says 'he's lost it.' sounds like it...:cautious:

and right...they are not vaccines. death in a vial perhaps
 
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There is no evidence whatsoever that vaccine is going to depopulate the world. I do think we have to wait until middle of next year to compare birth rates and confirm whether babies are being born normally (from couples who took the vaccine).
 
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I loathe the idea that ANYBODY that sells ANYTHING, can employ ANY human being to influence my decision making, simply on the basis of who they are.

I don’t care if LeBron James, Tom Brady, Oprah, Donald Trump, etc... advocate for a certain type of product or food or beverage, much less a dangerous gene therapy.

I want BOTH sides of a discussion to get a full hearing on the facts as they see them, THEN I will make my choice.
 
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Well I got both my shots and all I had was a sore arm the night of my first shot. I respect people’s right to not want it but I don’t think it’s as big of a deal as some are making it out to be.
 
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Oh Good Grief. The vaccines are ok - had two - no problem.
 
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It's been interesting to hear so many people who believe that God will protect them from COVID-19 but that don't believe he will protect them from side effects or adverse effects of a vaccine. I'm a new Christian but it seems rather confusing to hear such things.

There is nothing outside a person that by going into him can defile him, but the things that come out of a person are what defile him.”

Again I'm very ignorant and just very new to Christ, but as a new Christian it certainly is an issue that's a stumbling block
 
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Big-name preachers giving medical advice are no different from Hollywood actors giving statements on climate change.
 
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TheIndianGirl said:
There is no evidence whatsoever that vaccine is going to depopulate the world.
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There is more than enough HARD DATA to prove that COVID injections are extremely dangerous and lethal. There are two official agencies which report on vaccine adverse effects and death. One is the CDC's VAERS database and the other is its European equivalent EudraVigilance. And they do not even report every incident. Here are the latest numbers and they may already be outdated:

VAERS DATA
According to the report, injury and death report totals for each vaccine were:
  • Pfizer-BioNTech: 4,293 deaths and 144,607 injuries
  • Moderna: 2,094 deaths and 15,979 injuries
  • AstraZeneca: 1,360 deaths and 169,386 injuries
  • Johnson & Johnson (Janssen): 19 deaths and 246 injuries
EUDRAVIGILANCE
10,570 DEAD 405,259 Injuries: European Database of Adverse Drug Reactions for COVID-19 “Vaccines”
https://medicalkidnap.com/2021/05/1...adverse-drug-reactions-for-covid-19-vaccines/
 
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It is weird during the course of this year in some cases there has been more talk of politics and vaccines than there has been about Jesus Christ and the Gospel. No matter where we stand on any other issue. Let's just make absolutely sure people know we stand with Jesus
 
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PennEd said:
I want BOTH sides of a discussion to get a full hearing on the facts as they see them, THEN I will make my choice.
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Exactly what big gov, big pharma, big tech and big media desire to rob from us
 
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SophieT

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Dpax1231 said:
It is weird during the course of this year in some cases there has been more talk of politics and vaccines than there has been about Jesus Christ and the Gospel. No matter where we stand on any other issue. Let's just make absolutely sure people know we stand with Jesus
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oh honestly :rolleyes:

if we are discussing and talking and learning about Jesus that is who we will post about

however, if we are discussing politics or the so called pandemic, that is what we will post about

you are in the NEWS FORUM so duh. let's not preach as though you are the only one who knows God is still on the throne
 
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Dpax1231 said:
It's been interesting to hear so many people who believe that God will protect them from COVID-19 but that don't believe he will protect them from side effects or adverse effects of a vaccine. I'm a new Christian but it seems rather confusing to hear such things.

There is nothing outside a person that by going into him can defile him, but the things that come out of a person are what defile him.”

Again I'm very ignorant and just very new to Christ, but as a new Christian it certainly is an issue that's a stumbling block
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Well, who do you worship? If you take the vaccine, aren't you relying on it to save you from the virus? So you're kind of worshipping the vaccine, or Bill Gates (who made it). Why should God save you from the god you wish to worship? If you trust in Bill Gates, then let Bill Gates save you from the effects of the vaccine. If you trust in God, let God save you from what Bill Gates can't.
 
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Moses_Young said:
Well, who do you worship? If you take the vaccine, aren't you relying on it to save you from the virus? So you're kind of worshipping the vaccine, or Bill Gates (who made it). Why should God save you from the god you wish to worship? If you trust in Bill Gates, then let Bill Gates save you from the effects of the vaccine. If you trust in God, let God save you from what Bill Gates can't.
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hoookay. I believe that God gave us wisdom and our doctors knowledge to help us. I'm certainly not worshipping them. I take ibuprofen when I get a headache, and sudafed when I get a cold. Nope, not worshipping the developers of them. Not worshipping Henry Ford when I get in my car to go somewhere. I had vaccines for measles, mumps, rubella when I was a kid - not worshipping them. On and on.....
 
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Moses_Young said:
Well, who do you worship? If you take the vaccine, aren't you relying on it to save you from the virus? So you're kind of worshipping the vaccine, or Bill Gates (who made it). Why should God save you from the god you wish to worship? If you trust in Bill Gates, then let Bill Gates save you from the effects of the vaccine. If you trust in God, let God save you from what Bill Gates can't.
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In Rio they're worshipping the vaccine:
 
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