Forming to the image of the beast is a dead spirit. Carnal man's perception.

pittsburghjoe · May 20, 2021

Is human spirit being resurrected when we join Christ in His Sacrifice? God's Spirit witnesses we are no longer using carnal knowledge to make choices that satan tempted us with.

God's Spirit witnesses a renewed spirit (alive) as forming to the image of Christ. "What Would Jesus Do?" perception.

Romans 8:16
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
(scripture via user 4ChristAlone)

If everyone has a spirit, it means there is still a connection to God ..but what matters is if God witnesses you as alive. I think there might be levels of connection. If spirits return to God then those in the lake might have complete separation.

pittsburghjoe · May 20, 2021

Adam and Eve spiritually died in the Garden because they formed their perception to satan's line of thinking ..they formed to the image of the beast. They received the mark of the beast. Carnal knowledge blinds you to God, so they may have had difficulty remembering the Garden.

Your perception of reality is directly tied to your spirit. To renew your spirit is to have God's perception which includes the spiritual side of reality. To have an alive spirit is to be righteous is the image of Christ. Nothing in this reality matters except for joining Christ and waking others.

Image of the beast TO the Image of Christ (Life, Truth, The Way, Light)

Lifted_by_the_word · May 20, 2021

I once said on this forum that the body is satanic.It was God who revealed it to me,but my carnal mind couldn't accept the truth even though I knew that it was because of the fall of Adam and Eve.And some thought I was talking about God's original creation.
This video explains the image of the beast and those who worship it.Really gave me a deeper understanding of what God was truly revealing to me.
A lot of people on this forum would rather believe the lie to the point of dragging others with them to convince themselves otherwise.
I'm surprised the admins didn't send this to the conspiracy forum like my thread.

pittsburghjoe · May 20, 2021

Lifted_by_the_word said:

I'm impressed by how relevant this video is to this thread. Only an hour in, but I like it, thanks for posting it. I'll be watching the whole thing.

pumpkinbread1567 · May 21, 2021

pittsburghjoe said:

I don't recognize "Image of Christ" per-se. "God said, 'Let us make man in OUR image."

Man was made in the image of GOD which/who consists of functionalities like a body. As written, the head of the Church is Christ, and the head of Christ is God. Together, they form one body. So in the image/body of God, Man was formed.

So what does it mean to "make an image to the beast"? The Greek word for make in both "let us make" and "that they should make" (Rev 13) is "ποιέω" which means "do", and seems to mean from "create" to simple "make". The Hebrew word for "make" in "Let us make" is, however, different from "Create". Because of that, I imagine that it's more towards "Form" / "Shape". If that's true, they (that dwell on Earth) may not be creating from scratch, but rather shaping something into a certain image. If the image of God is similar to this body we have (though not exactly the same), then I'd imagine an image of the beast will also have to do with the appearance of one's body.

But this is a conjecture.

pumpkinbread1567 · May 21, 2021

It also possibly means an idol of some sorts. I don't know how many people know, but there has been an Egyptian Pharao who had a strong parallel with this second beast. His name is Amenhotep I.

Below is an excerpt from his wikipedia info.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amenhotep_I

Compared to Revelation

I found it very curious.

pumpkinbread1567 · May 21, 2021

Furthermore, a verse in Rev 13 suggests that the image of the beast is rather going to be physical than figurative.

It kinda suggests that it's more than a person, but rather something that consists of different entities (ex. countries). If this beast is figurative, then the image, which can speak, to be worshipped will perhaps have to be something tangible.

pittsburghjoe said:

But I agree with the idea with the spirit in a body. To give life, you'd have to give it a spirit of some kind. If so, I'd wager it'll be a satanic one.

pittsburghjoe · May 21, 2021

Is this place a temporary test where there will be Judgement for everyone that ever lived?

Then why wouldn't the mark of the beast be available from the start?

Why would only the people at the very end be offered it?

Could something more obvious be offered at the end?

Moses_Young · May 21, 2021

Perhaps the Mark of the Beast will take away our free will, and give it to the Beast, which may explain in part why one so marked would be damned - the Beast would never allow someone to repent and return to Christ, if the Beast controlled the will.

The so-called vaccine being pushed is said to be able to make people controllable - part of why they are becoming magnetic.

pittsburghjoe · May 21, 2021

Didn’t Cain get a mark? “Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence;” People with the mark are hidden from God’s presence.

pittsburghjoe · May 21, 2021

Was God demonstrating the character test we are in with Cain and Abel?

whoever finds me will kill me" (Genesis 4:13-14). God responded, "Not so; if anyone kills Cain, he will suffer vengeance seven times over." Then the Lord put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him" (Genesis 4:15-16).

The mark of the beast protects you from other beasts?

pittsburghjoe · May 21, 2021

Did Adam and Eve fall from the image of the beast? Did Cain take it a step further and receive the mark of the beast?

The mark of the beast can still happen at the end of this reality, but it was always available in a different form.

pittsburghjoe · May 21, 2021

Is "hidden from" God's presence the same as the illusion, carnal knowledge causes to be blind/separated to God?

Was God clueing us in on how this reality is setup via Cain?

Are we blind to God if we have the mark or image of the beast? Is this one of the reasons why it is key that we do not have it during Judgement? Will the wicked be blind to their own Judgement?

pittsburghjoe · May 21, 2021

"And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground."

Jesus is associated with sheep. satan is associated with fallen ground.

God after not respecting Cain's offering:
Genesis 4:7
If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

Sin at the door? Instead of Christ at the door?

Desire from the beast image? We can rule over sin/beast image if we try?

"And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him."

carnal man killed spirit

pittsburghjoe · May 21, 2021

It's all about who we have at the door, Christ or satan. It's our perception.

Cain and Abel is carnal man killing spirit out of their physical lives. This reality is about getting God back into our lives via Christ.

pittsburghjoe · May 21, 2021

Isaiah 53 is similar to Cain and Abel (evil man slaughtered Christ)

All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.

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Mark of Christ in his hand

pittsburghjoe · May 21, 2021

Hebrews 12:24
And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

Genesis 4:10
And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.

pumpkinbread1567 · May 22, 2021

Moses_Young said:

The Greek word for "mark" there means "engraving" in Modern Greek. (https://en.glosbe.com/el/en/χάραγμα)

Whatever it is, I imagine it's something that would be used to identify you as an ungodly person (as opposed to the Holy Spirit the seal of God). The strong's conc. literally describes it as a stamp which is like a seal.

pumpkinbread1567 · May 22, 2021

@Moses_Young But granted, for now, I believe the mark of the beast in its physical appearance will be an ID chip of some sort.

pumpkinbread1567 · May 22, 2021

pittsburghjoe said:

Wait. "Killing spirit out of their physical lives"?

Can a man kill spirit? (I thought not.) - Did you mean "beating"?

Forming to the image of the beast is a dead spirit. Carnal man's perception.

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