Do catholics worship God or the pope?

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Jackson123

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There were without doubt heresies that the Church would be forced to put down but Jesus told us in Matthew that the gates of hell would not prevail against his Church. So his church would exist and prevail against heresies. There wasn’t even a recognized Canon to be Sola about for hundreds of years after Christ’s death.
If the teaching not in the gospel, how we know if it the teaching of Jesus?
 

Jackson123

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If the reason catholic pray to dead and for dead is ad 80/time line basis, before ad 80 Paul indicate there is cheating going on, so ad 80 record can be cheating aswell
 

GodMyFortress

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that church is not the RCC.
I’d love to know what Church you think it will is.

It most certainly is the Catholic Church. The historical written evidence by early Christians for it is there, the apostolic succession is there, there is no other Church that fits the bill. The Eastern Orthodox even conceded that Francis is the successor of Peter. Luther even stated the papacy held the office of the apostles.
 

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If the teaching not in the gospel, how we know if it the teaching of Jesus?
Why do you believe that the Church Jesus Christ established would lie to you about what the Christian Faith is? The Bible says the Church is the pillar and bulwark of truth and that hell would never prevail against it.
 

Jackson123

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Why do you believe that the Church Jesus Christ established would lie to you about what the Christian Faith is? The Bible says the Church is the pillar and bulwark of truth and that hell would never prevail against it.
My brother, as far as I know, gospel not lie.
 

Jackson123

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Of course I do, but I don’t believe God left it all on my shoulders to be it’s interpreter. I’m a fallible man.
No body infallible, but simple teaching, don't add or reduce His teaching.
 

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I’d love to know what Church you think it will is.

It most certainly is the Catholic Church. The historical written evidence by early Christians for it is there, the apostolic succession is there, there is no other Church that fits the bill. The Eastern Orthodox even conceded that Francis is the successor of Peter. Luther even stated the papacy held the office of the apostles.
I will tell you which one.
the one washed in the blood of Jesus
 

CS1

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Just curious, what denomination do you identify with?
That is your issue, you identify with a denomination instead in Christ. the RCC did not save you no more than a baptist church
 

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Denominations shouldn't exist. We should all be one.
 

GodMyFortress

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That is your issue, you identify with a denomination instead in Christ. the RCC did not save you no more than a baptist church
Are you ashamed to say what Church you belong to? I’m proud of mine, and have no problem with people knowing I’m Catholic.
 

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Are you ashamed to say what Church you belong to? I’m proud of mine, and have no problem with people knowing I’m Catholic.
No I not, however, my denomination is irrelevant in CC Because I do not promote it I am to lift up Jesus. I am full Gospel meaning pentacostel yet anyone who has repented and called on the name of the Lord shall be saved. You do not have to be part of the " first church" to be saved. it is Jesus and him alone. So, trying to play the "shame game" won't work with me. take that kindergarten tactic back to the RCC.
 

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Are you ashamed to say what Church you belong to? I’m proud of mine, and have no problem with people knowing I’m Catholic.
it is better to know Jesus over the RCC.
 

GodMyFortress

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No I not, however, my denomination is irrelevant in CC Because I do not promote it I am to lift up Jesus. I am full Gospel meaning pentacostel yet anyone who has repented and called on the name of the Lord shall be saved. You do not have to be part of the " first church" to be saved. it is Jesus and him alone. So, trying to play the "shame game" won't work with me. take that kindergarten tactic back to the RCC.
Are there any other Churches besides the Catholic Church that you believe aren’t Christian but identify as Christians? Excluding the Mormons and JW.
 
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Three requests:
1. "Jesus, please help me."
2. "Godmyfortress, please ask Jesus to help me."
3. "Mary, please ask Jesus to help me."

Which ones are valid?
Which ones are sinful?
Why?
 

CS1

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Are there any other Churches besides the Catholic Church that you believe aren’t Christian but identify as Christians? Excluding the Mormons and JW.
First off I did not say "catholic " cannot be Christian.

What I am saying is being CARD CARRYING MEMBER OF THE RCC doesn't save you

the RCC did not provide the payment for sin, Jesus did. you being an RCC member no more saves you than me being protestant.

If you don't know Jesus as your Lord and savior, and if you have not repented of your sins and surrender to Him in faith, YOU are not saved.

The JW's and Mormons are known as Theological cults. Your boasting of being the " First Church" in the context of the organization did not impress God one bit. The RCC has hurt the cause for Christ more than any other denomination OUT THERE.