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“So He was saying, “What is the kingdom of God like, and to what shall I compare it? It is like a mustard seed, which a man took and threw into his own garden; and it grew and became a tree, and the birds of the air nested in its branches.” (Luke 13:18–19).
Tree in the Garden! Like the Garden of Eden? I think the trees represent a choice chart of good and bad. The tree of knowledge doesn’t involve God in the choice.
Tree in the Garden! Like the Garden of Eden? I think the trees represent a choice chart of good and bad. The tree of knowledge doesn’t involve God in the choice.
The Circumcision of Christ is the replacement of the Sinful Nature with the Divine Nature. When Christ gives a person His Divine Nature, that is the moment that a human is no longer influenced by the mind of Satan. That influence is completely gone, for the Devil has been defeated. When the Devil is defeated, that is the moment that we have escaped corruption. Remaining sin is that of our mind; our habits . . . and these habits will be Purified, sometimes quickly and sometimes slowly. Below is the Biblical text to confirm these ideas:
Colossians 2:11, 13 NLT - "When you came to Christ, you were "circumcised," but not by a physical procedure. Christ performed a spiritual circumcision--the cutting away of your sinful nature. ... 13 You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ, for he forgave all our sins."
How are we made alive? Above, the Sin Nature is cut out and removed, and below, that Old Nature is replaced by the New Nature, the Divine Nature of Christ. And it is through this Circumcision of Spiritual Flesh that we escape corruption.
2 Peter 1:4 NLT - "And because of his glory and excellence, he has given us great and precious promises. These are the promises that enable you to share his divine nature and escape the world's corruption caused by human desires."
We are Enabled to escape corruption itself (now reborn of Incorruptible Seed) . . . this is not something we choose, but are Enabled to do. Ezekiel 7:13 confirms that no one can make themselves Holy. This means that no one can choose the correct Path, but must be enabled to do so. Here are a plethora of translations for verse 13 (this is pretty amazing):
Part b of verse 13 clearly proves that no man can cleanse his own heart.
[Eze 7:13 KJV] "For the seller shall not return to that which is sold, although they were yet alive: for the vision is touching the whole multitude thereof, which shall not return; neither shall any strengthen himself in the iniquity of his life."
[Eze 7:13 NKJV] "For the seller shall not return to what has been sold, Though he may still be alive; For the vision concerns the whole multitude, And it shall not turn back; No one will strengthen himself Who lives in iniquity."
[Eze 7:13 NLT] "Even if the merchants survive, they will never return to their business. For what God has said applies to everyone--it will not be changed! Not one person whose life is twisted by sin will ever recover."
[Eze 7:13 ESV] "For the seller shall not return to what he has sold, while they live. For the vision concerns all their multitude; it shall not turn back; and because of his iniquity, none can maintain his life."
[Eze 7:13 CSB] "The seller will certainly not return to what was sold as long as he and the buyer remain alive. For the vision concerning her whole crowd will not be revoked, and because of the iniquity of each one, none will preserve his life.
[Eze 7:13 NET] "The customer will no longer pay the seller while both parties are alive, for the vision against their whole crowd will not be revoked. Each person, for his iniquity, will fail to preserve his life."
[Eze 7:13 DBY] "For the seller shall not return to that which is sold, even though he were yet alive amongst the living: for the vision is touching the whole multitude thereof; it shall not be revoked; and none shall through his iniquity assure his life."
It is impossible that Salvation is our free will choice. Impossible.
Colossians 2:11, 13 NLT - "When you came to Christ, you were "circumcised," but not by a physical procedure. Christ performed a spiritual circumcision--the cutting away of your sinful nature. ... 13 You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ, for he forgave all our sins."
How are we made alive? Above, the Sin Nature is cut out and removed, and below, that Old Nature is replaced by the New Nature, the Divine Nature of Christ. And it is through this Circumcision of Spiritual Flesh that we escape corruption.
2 Peter 1:4 NLT - "And because of his glory and excellence, he has given us great and precious promises. These are the promises that enable you to share his divine nature and escape the world's corruption caused by human desires."
We are Enabled to escape corruption itself (now reborn of Incorruptible Seed) . . . this is not something we choose, but are Enabled to do. Ezekiel 7:13 confirms that no one can make themselves Holy. This means that no one can choose the correct Path, but must be enabled to do so. Here are a plethora of translations for verse 13 (this is pretty amazing):
Part b of verse 13 clearly proves that no man can cleanse his own heart.
[Eze 7:13 KJV] "For the seller shall not return to that which is sold, although they were yet alive: for the vision is touching the whole multitude thereof, which shall not return; neither shall any strengthen himself in the iniquity of his life."
[Eze 7:13 NKJV] "For the seller shall not return to what has been sold, Though he may still be alive; For the vision concerns the whole multitude, And it shall not turn back; No one will strengthen himself Who lives in iniquity."
[Eze 7:13 NLT] "Even if the merchants survive, they will never return to their business. For what God has said applies to everyone--it will not be changed! Not one person whose life is twisted by sin will ever recover."
[Eze 7:13 ESV] "For the seller shall not return to what he has sold, while they live. For the vision concerns all their multitude; it shall not turn back; and because of his iniquity, none can maintain his life."
[Eze 7:13 CSB] "The seller will certainly not return to what was sold as long as he and the buyer remain alive. For the vision concerning her whole crowd will not be revoked, and because of the iniquity of each one, none will preserve his life.
[Eze 7:13 NET] "The customer will no longer pay the seller while both parties are alive, for the vision against their whole crowd will not be revoked. Each person, for his iniquity, will fail to preserve his life."
[Eze 7:13 DBY] "For the seller shall not return to that which is sold, even though he were yet alive amongst the living: for the vision is touching the whole multitude thereof; it shall not be revoked; and none shall through his iniquity assure his life."
It is impossible that Salvation is our free will choice. Impossible.
Jesus can’t hear satans voice ?
“Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple, And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.”
Matthew 4:1, 3-11 KJV
that’s what we have to do overcome temptation by sticking with Gods word he’s going to always be in the world and while we have flesh he can tempt us , we do. Ot have to sin anymore is the thing we do now have a choice of what to believe Jesus or the other guy ?
temptation is a reality we all face in many diverse ways but we’re supposed to put on our battle armoir hold up the shield of faith , and strike down the enemy with Gods word like Paul taught and like Jesus showed us en facing temptations
“My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.
If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.”
James 1:2-5
Christians aren’t those beyond temptation they are those who learn tomobercome temptation and choose the good over the evil that tempts and poisons the soul
Satan wants us to think we have no choice bro like we’re his slaves , Jesus wants us to know we can walk outside the dungeon now and be free but not if we’re convinced we’re still slaves in a trap under the enemies thumb
when you say we have no choice it’s because of this situation
“In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”
2 Timothy 2:25-26 KJV
God has always given us free will and choice we keep letting Satan take it away with lies after God sets us free again
We’re free to do good or evil now and will reap the harvest of our works here forward
“For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.”
Galatians 5:13-17 KJV
You are talking about this thing here
“so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.”
but missing the solution and freedom here
“This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.”
We can choose to use our freedom for good or evil Paul’s teaching us to choose the good that’s accomplished by following the spirit in the gospel
“It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”
John 6:63 KJV
it’s why believing the gospel is salvation it gives the spirit when we believe the gospel and sets us free from the lie of the enemy that were slaves to sin and can’t change anything
“Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple, And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.”
Matthew 4:1, 3-11 KJV
that’s what we have to do overcome temptation by sticking with Gods word he’s going to always be in the world and while we have flesh he can tempt us , we do. Ot have to sin anymore is the thing we do now have a choice of what to believe Jesus or the other guy ?
temptation is a reality we all face in many diverse ways but we’re supposed to put on our battle armoir hold up the shield of faith , and strike down the enemy with Gods word like Paul taught and like Jesus showed us en facing temptations
“My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.
If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.”
James 1:2-5
Christians aren’t those beyond temptation they are those who learn tomobercome temptation and choose the good over the evil that tempts and poisons the soul
Satan wants us to think we have no choice bro like we’re his slaves , Jesus wants us to know we can walk outside the dungeon now and be free but not if we’re convinced we’re still slaves in a trap under the enemies thumb
when you say we have no choice it’s because of this situation
“In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”
2 Timothy 2:25-26 KJV
God has always given us free will and choice we keep letting Satan take it away with lies after God sets us free again
We’re free to do good or evil now and will reap the harvest of our works here forward
“For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.”
Galatians 5:13-17 KJV
You are talking about this thing here
“so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.”
but missing the solution and freedom here
“This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.”
We can choose to use our freedom for good or evil Paul’s teaching us to choose the good that’s accomplished by following the spirit in the gospel
“It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”
John 6:63 KJV
it’s why believing the gospel is salvation it gives the spirit when we believe the gospel and sets us free from the lie of the enemy that were slaves to sin and can’t change anything
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John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
The Word was made Flesh ..so Jesus had the Spirit of GOD.
Does that also mean The Gospel is Spirit?
Is God's Kingdom ..Spirit?
Are we part of God's Kingdom when we have a Righteous spirit?
Are we a pillar of Christ's Body?
No. It doesn't represent anything other than the object of disobedience, that when Adam and Eve sinned, it became the topic of discussion regarding their disobedience.
Genesis 3:3 NLT - "It's only the fruit from the tree in the middle of the garden that we are not allowed to eat. God said, 'You must not eat it or even touch it; if you do, you will die."
Again, the Human Nature served Satan when Satan told Adam and Eve what "was up" and what to do. Adam and Eve followed the advice of the Devil and then paid the price. Adam and Eve did not have the Indwelling Holy Spirit to guide and lead them, thus they fell victim to the Devil and the weakness (servanthood) of their Human Nature.
My friend . . . you are waaaaaay over-thinking these principles and missing the Gospel of Christ. I highly recommend that you learn the Purpose of the Bible, which is the Work of Christ and stick with that. Please, please be careful not to follow in the footsteps of Jeroboam. We must, must leave these esoteric ideologies behind . . . they have no relevance to Scripture and are taking you away from learning the True Gospel.
Respectfully, I am worried about you and those that are buying into what you are promoting. I am worried.
Genesis 3:3 NLT - "It's only the fruit from the tree in the middle of the garden that we are not allowed to eat. God said, 'You must not eat it or even touch it; if you do, you will die."
Again, the Human Nature served Satan when Satan told Adam and Eve what "was up" and what to do. Adam and Eve followed the advice of the Devil and then paid the price. Adam and Eve did not have the Indwelling Holy Spirit to guide and lead them, thus they fell victim to the Devil and the weakness (servanthood) of their Human Nature.
My friend . . . you are waaaaaay over-thinking these principles and missing the Gospel of Christ. I highly recommend that you learn the Purpose of the Bible, which is the Work of Christ and stick with that. Please, please be careful not to follow in the footsteps of Jeroboam. We must, must leave these esoteric ideologies behind . . . they have no relevance to Scripture and are taking you away from learning the True Gospel.
Respectfully, I am worried about you and those that are buying into what you are promoting. I am worried.
I don't think the trees were physical. Temptation happened in the mind of Jesus in the desert ..so why didn't it happen the same way for Adam?
We each have a timeline with decision trees along it. The question is ..is the root node Righteous or self-righteous? Spiritual Circumcision changes the root node.
Sure is weird Cain went to Nod ...node
We each have a timeline with decision trees along it. The question is ..is the root node Righteous or self-righteous? Spiritual Circumcision changes the root node.
Sure is weird Cain went to Nod ...node
because the heart rules the flesh like a kingdom
“For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.”
Mark 7:21-23
if this is the kingdom in our heart we need repentance and the kingdom of God to come in
“Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.”
Luke 17:21
to a believer
“For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink;
but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men. Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.”
Romans 14:17-19 KJV
if we let the gospel fill those places In Our heart it will reprove ( call
Out and correct) our sins me purify our heart and that is how we become free of sin
“And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.”
John 3:19-21 KJV
Christ correcting our hearts belief is what corrects our actions
“For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.”
Mark 7:21-23
if this is the kingdom in our heart we need repentance and the kingdom of God to come in
“Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.”
Luke 17:21
to a believer
“For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink;
but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men. Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.”
Romans 14:17-19 KJV
if we let the gospel fill those places In Our heart it will reprove ( call
Out and correct) our sins me purify our heart and that is how we become free of sin
“And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.”
John 3:19-21 KJV
Christ correcting our hearts belief is what corrects our actions
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Scripture, please.
Come on now. God doesn't see the future, He creates it. His Eternal Plan is written upon Heavenly Scrolls and these Scrolls cannot be altered by mere humans. This is abundantly clear if a person were to just read the entire Bible and do their best to understand each phrase and concept.
Come on now. God doesn't see the future, He creates it. His Eternal Plan is written upon Heavenly Scrolls and these Scrolls cannot be altered by mere humans. This is abundantly clear if a person were to just read the entire Bible and do their best to understand each phrase and concept.