Paul's Teaching were aimed towards the Gentiles

[AandW]

I've seen several times on this Forum reading through the hundreds of Topics the argument based upon that Paul's Teachings were specifically designed for the Gentiles. We know Peter was focusing upon the Jews and Paul was setting up Churches in the nearby Nations surrounding Israel.

This thread is just to see how many truly hold to Paul's Teachings.

1) We know the Grace Message is specifically from Paul
2) We know the Gifts of the Holy Spirit are taught to us from Paul
3) Paul taught us the specifics to Christ's own Teachings
4) Paul covers every area us GENTILES need to be better Followers of Christ.

But how many, who are claiming to follow the Message of Paul, were Baptized like he Taught?

Here is a Verse from Paul's writings to the Corinthians:
13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Paul?

Paul only Baptized 2 people because he feared people would claim they were Baptized [in the Name of Paul]. And because of this fear, Paul emphasizes what Name should be used during Baptism, the One Who was Crucified for all of us. Who was Crucified for all of us? Yeshua was.

So my question is simple.
If us Gentiles are following the Teachings of Paul, did we follow his Teachings by being Baptized in the Name of the One Who was Crucified for us?

I think I need to be re-Baptized if I am to follow Paul's Teachings since I am technically a Gentile!

What do you think?

 

[throughfaith]

I've seen several times on this Forum reading through the hundreds of Topics the argument based upon that Paul's Teachings were specifically designed for the Gentiles. We know Peter was focusing upon the Jews and Paul was setting up Churches in the nearby Nations surrounding Israel.

This thread is just to see how many truly hold to Paul's Teachings.

1) We know the Grace Message is specifically from Paul
2) We know the Gifts of the Holy Spirit are taught to us from Paul
3) Paul taught us the specifics to Christ's own Teachings
4) Paul covers every area us GENTILES need to be better Followers of Christ.

But how many, who are claiming to follow the Message of Paul, were Baptized like he Taught?

Here is a Verse from Paul's writings to the Corinthians:
13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Paul?

Paul only Baptized 2 people because he feared people would claim they were Baptized [in the Name of Paul]. And because of this fear, Paul emphasizes what Name should be used during Baptism, the One Who was Crucified for all of us. Who was Crucified for all of us? Yeshua was.

So my question is simple.
If us Gentiles are following the Teachings of Paul, did we follow his Teachings by being Baptized in the Name of the One Who was Crucified for us?

I think I need to be re-Baptized if I am to follow Paul's Teachings since I am technically a Gentile!

What do you think?

The most important baptism is by the Holy Spirit. A person cannot be saved without this ,but he can be saved without water baptism .
Paul is taught the ' Mysteries ' and the Gospel of grace ,to which , among other things scarcely are taught by most churches ,which instead teach some form of replacement theology. They barely teach past the four gospels . And in some sense elevate the four Gospels above all other scripture .

 

[AandW]

The most important baptism is by the Holy Spirit. A person cannot be saved without this ,but he can be saved without water baptism .
Paul is taught the ' Mysteries ' and the Gospel of grace ,to which , among other things scarcely are taught by most churches ,which instead teach some form of replacement theology. They barely teach past the four gospels . And in some sense elevate the four Gospels above all other scripture .

Amen!

But isn't it fascinating that it explains in the Word of God, New Testament, that Peter was in charge of Teaching the Jews and Paul the Gentiles, and here less than 5% are actually following any of Paul's Teachings? When we calculate who is who, 98% of the Worlds Population would be considered Gentiles. And of those 98% who are Saved and Followers of Christ, less than 5% actually adhere to Paul's Teachings. And we know from the Word of God, Paul's Teachings are specifically for the Gentiles.

So, what does that mean if the Gentiles are ignoring Paul's Teachings?

 

[AandW]

What does it mean if we're going to be water Baptized but refuse to do it as the Teacher of the Gentiles taught to do it?

 

[posthuman]

There's only one gospel, not a different one for Jews and Gentiles - and Paul went first to the Jews in every city.

Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.

 

[throughfaith]

Amen!

But isn't it fascinating that it explains in the Word of God, New Testament, that Peter was in charge of Teaching the Jews and Paul the Gentiles, and here less than 5% are actually following any of Paul's Teachings? When we calculate who is who, 98% of the Worlds Population would be considered Gentiles. And of those 98% who are Saved and Followers of Christ, less than 5% actually adhere to Paul's Teachings. And we know from the Word of God, Paul's Teachings are specifically for the Gentiles.

So, what does that mean if the Gentiles are ignoring Paul's Teachings?

The main issue is not rightly dividing.

 

[throughfaith]

There's only one gospel, not a different one for Jews and Gentiles - and Paul went first to the Jews in every city.

Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.

When Paul writes this He's referring to the Good news of what is now established . Of course it cannot be said that it was good news of the death ,burial and resurrection and all what that means to a person , prior to it happening.

 

[posthuman]

The main issue is not rightly dividing.

The word translated into our pagan English as 'rightly dividing' means literally 'to cut straight' - it's the phrase one who is building a road would use, meaning not to meander but to go make a straight path.

It dos NOT mean scripture is divided against itself or that some is relevant and the rest not.

 

[AandW]

There's only one gospel, not a different one for Jews and Gentiles - and Paul went first to the Jews in every city.

Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.

Amen!
We do know that Paul did eventually take charge of Teaching the Gentiles, to which, we are the Gentiles of today.

But for those who specifically use Paul's Teachings, doesn't it seem odd they don't adhere to his Teachings on how to be water Baptized?

 

[posthuman]

When Paul writes this He's referring to the Good news of what is now established . Of course it cannot be said that it was good news of the death ,burial and resurrection and all what that means to a person , prior to it happening.

Jesus admonished His own disciples before and after the cross saying that if they understood what was written long ago they would have already known about His death, burial and resurrection before it happened.

No one's personal ignorance or lack of understanding changes the truth.

 

[John146]

The word translated into our pagan English as 'rightly dividing' means literally 'to cut straight' - it's the phrase one who is building a road would use, meaning not to meander but to go make a straight path.

It dos NOT mean scripture is divided against itself or that some is relevant and the rest not.

Are there no divisions that need to be made when studying the word of truth? Is all scripture doctrine for the body of Christ? All scripture is written for us, but not all scripture is written to us. Yes?

 

[throughfaith]

The word translated into our pagan English as 'rightly dividing' means literally 'to cut straight' - it's the phrase one who is building a road would use, meaning not to meander but to go make a straight path.

It dos NOT mean scripture is divided against itself or that some is relevant and the rest not.

I believe it means ' rightly apportion ' .

 

[posthuman]

What does it mean if we're going to be water Baptized but refuse to do it as the Teacher of the Gentiles taught to do it?

What do you mean?
What's 'the wrong way' and what's the 'right way'?

 

[posthuman]

Are there no divisions that need to be made when studying the word of truth? Is all scripture doctrine for the body of Christ? All scripture is written for us, but not all scripture is written to us. Yes?

All scripture is testimony of Christ

He is The Straight Way and His word is a double-edged sword: He does not speak falsely

 

[John146]

All scripture is testimony of Christ

He is The Straight Way and His word is a double-edged sword: He does not speak falsely

Are there divisions to be made in scripture? Are there different audiences throughout scripture?

 

[posthuman]

I believe it means ' rightly apportion ' .

Ortho = straight
Temno = cut

I'm not talking about interpretative metaphor, but what this word truly literally means.

The word literally means 'cut straight'
kjv and other translations to Babel-originated pagan languages like ours take necessary liberty in trying to interpret what is written.

Another way to represent the actual word is 'to accurately handle'
This does not imply the law and the prophets are divided from the gospel. It means they are to be correctly understood, and correctly understanding them means realizing and seeing that every bit of the Bible is witnessing of the LORD, His person and His work: His death burial and resurrection.

The revealing of a thing is not the beginning of its existence. It's the beginning of our being able to understand what has been there since the start.

 

[AandW]

What do you mean?
What's 'the wrong way' and what's the 'right way'?

Good question!

I just was under the impression if people use Paul's Teachings for how they believe and follow God, what causes them to not follow all of his Teachings?

Even to the Romans Paul wrote, Rom 6:3-5 “Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death.

I just wonder how they are able to say this is good from Paul, this is not, and wonder why people are looking at them like their [double minded]?

 

[posthuman]

Ortho-temno
Straight cut

This is how you weild a sword skillfully, by having the blade edge in line with the momentum of the strike.

It's not about taking the hilt off of the thing and separating the tool into parts so that it's no longer usable. It's about being trained and practiced and adept in its proper use

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

But for those who specifically use Paul's Teachings, doesn't it seem odd they don't adhere to his Teachings on how to be water Baptized?

Precious friend, Paul was "...NOT sent to {water} baptize..." (1Co_1:17 KJB!),
so that "makes a lot of sense" to have teachings about what CHRIST Did
NOT "send him to do!"

However, he DID "Teach" What CHRIST Revealed TO him in HIS MYSTERY!:
ONE Baptism Of God's PURE GRACE!! Amen?

Be Blessed!

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

The word translated into our pagan English as 'rightly dividing' means literally 'to cut straight' - it's the phrase one who is building a road would use, meaning not to meander but to go make a straight path.

It dos NOT mean scripture is divided against itself or
that some is relevant and the rest not.

Precious friend, so if I Rightly Divide God's Word Of Truth, noting the
Distinctions, And, following those that relevant for me {a Gentile}, and
let the ones relevant for ISRAEL ride, am I not on "a straight path,"
showing myself "Approved Unto God" (2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!)?

Distinctions In God's Two Different Programs: Prophecy vs Mystery!

Be Blessed!