50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord
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I think refusing to study scripture on its own terms, and labelling and pigeon-holing
any viewpoint one is at variance with, risks becoming "scriptural terrorism",
if it becomes a way to denigrate valid scriptural study, or worse,
a way to misrepresent valid scriptural study.
I think Preterism is such a dirty word that it is better to leave it out.
I am personally unfamiliar with their teachings so I have no idea on the
factuality of your comments.
Given though that people like Spurgeon and Sproul held Preterist views,
it seems to have become somewhat too easily besmirched.
any viewpoint one is at variance with, risks becoming "scriptural terrorism",
if it becomes a way to denigrate valid scriptural study, or worse,
a way to misrepresent valid scriptural study.
I think Preterism is such a dirty word that it is better to leave it out.
I am personally unfamiliar with their teachings so I have no idea on the
factuality of your comments.
Given though that people like Spurgeon and Sproul held Preterist views,
it seems to have become somewhat too easily besmirched.
" hey Ben i am coming to get you. Where are you?"
I am in milton fl. Just inside the city limit sign..
"Ok, i will pick you up at 6. Meet me at that sign"
Picks him up and drives off the other way...never crosses the city limit sign.
Postrib adherent ..." He never entered the city, so he never went to milton. He only appeared....never came"
Hair splitting is poor exegesis.
I am in milton fl. Just inside the city limit sign..
"Ok, i will pick you up at 6. Meet me at that sign"
Picks him up and drives off the other way...never crosses the city limit sign.
Postrib adherent ..." He never entered the city, so he never went to milton. He only appeared....never came"
Hair splitting is poor exegesis.
To provide a short synapsis of the contending views between commentators, so that the guests aren't as confused as the commentators...
Pre-trib view per order of events: rapture; tribulation/ wrath; return
Post-trib view per order of events; tribulation; return; rapture/wrath
Are these explanations precise, or am I misrepresented either view?
Pre-trib view per order of events: rapture; tribulation/ wrath; return
Post-trib view per order of events; tribulation; return; rapture/wrath
Are these explanations precise, or am I misrepresented either view?
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Maybe engage me concept for concept and see where that leads??
But hey, ignore is bliss. I use it all the time.
But everytime i do it is because they can not go toe to toe with me.
Concept vs concept is my goal.
Or to be clear....to be biblical...and make my opponent go against the word.
That is why pretribs have such an advantage.
Our verses MUST BE ommitted or reframed.
But hey, ignore is bliss. I use it all the time.
But everytime i do it is because they can not go toe to toe with me.
Concept vs concept is my goal.
Or to be clear....to be biblical...and make my opponent go against the word.
That is why pretribs have such an advantage.
Our verses MUST BE ommitted or reframed.
Pre-trib has been debunked and I mean like really debunked. It's almost like beating the dead horse, but I participate in threads where I feel like I can help somehow.
There are major flaws with the ordering of the first resurrection and return of Christ that make pre-trib impossible.
You've seen enough scripture to decide on your own. I don't think there is much more that you can be shown that will convince you. Some people just can't see it.
What's most important is that you're trusting Christ's sacrifice to save you. In the end, that's all that really matters.
It just breaks my heart a little bit when I realize the possibility that many well-meaning Christians will enter the great tribulation, deceived by pre-trib, and possibly commit apostasy.
I think some people just won't believe they'll be here for the GT until they're already in it. I don't want you to lose your faith. Stay strong.
There are major flaws with the ordering of the first resurrection and return of Christ that make pre-trib impossible.
You've seen enough scripture to decide on your own. I don't think there is much more that you can be shown that will convince you. Some people just can't see it.
What's most important is that you're trusting Christ's sacrifice to save you. In the end, that's all that really matters.
It just breaks my heart a little bit when I realize the possibility that many well-meaning Christians will enter the great tribulation, deceived by pre-trib, and possibly commit apostasy.
I think some people just won't believe they'll be here for the GT until they're already in it. I don't want you to lose your faith. Stay strong.
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