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Ok. I watched it. Interesting. Not sure what I think about it. But it did kind of bring a question up in my mind.

If somehow it was proven beyond any doubt that the host is actually the body and blood of Jesus, would I take it? I think I'd have to say yes. Yes, I would. So right now I'm just kind of mulling that over in my mind.

Thanks for the video.
 
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Ok. I watched it. Interesting. Not sure what I think about it. But it did kind of bring a question up in my mind.

If somehow it was proven beyond any doubt that the host is actually the body and blood of Jesus, would I take it? I think I'd have to say yes. Yes, I would. So right now I'm just kind of mulling that over in my mind.

Thanks for the video.

Not to make light of communion but your comment reminds me of my nephew when he was little. My sister and her husband attended a small country church and they involved family in the services as much as possible. So little ones took communion too as the families gathered at the altar together. The pastor was explained the body of Jesus and they took the bread. Then the pastor mentioned the blood and my nephew turned and started walking back to his seat. My BIL asked him where he was going and out loud he said " I ain't drinkin' no blood daddy!" lol He's 16 now and we still tell that story on him.
 

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A priest pointed out an OT passage where Hebrews had to eat the burnt offering for it to atone. Somehow he thought that would prove their doctrine of communion.
 

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Ok. I watched it. Interesting. Not sure what I think about it. But it did kind of bring a question up in my mind.

If somehow it was proven beyond any doubt that the host is actually the body and blood of Jesus, would I take it? I think I'd have to say yes. Yes, I would. So right now I'm just kind of mulling that over in my mind.

Thanks for the video.
Should you take communion if you personally started to believe? Absolutely! Jesus offered his body up for the Salvation of all man. He says 'Take this and eat it' Just remember if you partake of this belief you need to be pure - no unrepented sin.

We call this the Paschal mystery - the presence of Christ in humble bread and wine. You may have also heard of the adoration of the eucharist as well - where Catholics gather and pray in front of a Eucharist in held in a fancy holder thing (I think it is called a monstrom) If you can believe Jesus becomes present in the Eucharist when it is consecrated, it shouldn't be too much of a leap of faith to understand that we're sitting in front of the real presence of Jesus.

Here's another type of Eucharistic miracle, this time from Kerala, India. I showed this one to my Pentecostal friend and she was both excited and shocked when she saw it. She proclaimed that she could see the image in 3d and the holy spirit moved in her when shown it. Think what you will, but Catholicism is littered with things like this.

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Not to make light of communion but your comment reminds me of my nephew when he was little. My sister and her husband attended a small country church and they involved family in the services as much as possible. So little ones took communion too as the families gathered at the altar together. The pastor was explained the body of Jesus and they took the bread. Then the pastor mentioned the blood and my nephew turned and started walking back to his seat. My BIL asked him where he was going and out loud he said " I ain't drinkin' no blood daddy!" lol He's 16 now and we still tell that story on him.
Children bring great joy to the faith. Their innocence and incorrupt way of viewing things is something we should all take note of. I often think of Matthew 18:3

3“Truly I tell you,” He said, “unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

That kid truly believed it was the blood of Christ and had the funniest reaction lol. Imagine if we all somehow managed to overcome our adult cynicism and prejudices and became trusting like children again. Just imagine how close to Christ we would become and the incredible works he could use us for! :D
 

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Politicians have no business telling any church what to do. But ever since the start of the Scamdemic, they have targeted churches. Those congressman have absolutely no business trying to defend pro-abortionists (or any other evildoer).

As to the Catholic issues, dealing with abortionist (or extortionist) Catholics was long overdue. The problem is that the RCC has not consistently addressed the sins within that church. Biden should have been excommunicated decades ago, And all the priests and bishops involved in sexual shenanigans should also have been dealt with.
well, those "Catholics" who promote abortion are self-excommunicated (latae sententiae) but i do agree that they should be publicly excommunicated as well.

And those dims.. they have the nerve to try to force others to live up to standards they themselves refuse to adhere to, or even attempt to adhere to... twisted.

Their religion is... well, they used to say (in so many words) that they worship nature... but when it comes to nature in the womb...
not

so it's dueling religions in Congress...
 

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Ok. I watched it. Interesting. Not sure what I think about it. But it did kind of bring a question up in my mind.

If somehow it was proven beyond any doubt that the host is actually the body and blood of Jesus, would I take it? I think I'd have to say yes. Yes, I would. So right now I'm just kind of mulling that over in my mind.

Thanks for the video.
or u can do what some Catholics do.. spend time in the Real Presence which emanates from the Hosts stored 24/7 in the Church

That has changed my life
 

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Should you take communion if you personally started to believe? Absolutely! .
wait...

only Catholics not in mortal sin can partake of the Eucharist worthily

1 Cor 11:23 says if you are not... bad consequences...
 

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wait...

only Catholics not in mortal sin can partake of the Eucharist worthily

1 Cor 11:23 says if you are not... bad consequences...
I was referring to if they have the illumination of faith within their own churches.

My assumption is that most readers are non Catholics and are not intending to participate in Catholic mass.

But even having said that, change is coming the the Catholic church. A great awakening is rising, and the time is upon us to stop differentiating ourselves. Satan works through division and disagreement so in order to every Christian needs to start seeing people from other churches as their brother in Christ and recognise we are ALL part of the body of Christ.

Big things are coming and believe me, when they get here whether we are Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox etc etc will seem so very trivial. We'll all be on bended knee together in awe of the great and terrible power of God the Father and we'll need to work together for his glory and our own salvation on this immense day.
 
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Not to make light of communion but your comment reminds me of my nephew when he was little. My sister and her husband attended a small country church and they involved family in the services as much as possible. So little ones took communion too as the families gathered at the altar together. The pastor was explained the body of Jesus and they took the bread. Then the pastor mentioned the blood and my nephew turned and started walking back to his seat. My BIL asked him where he was going and out loud he said " I ain't drinkin' no blood daddy!" lol He's 16 now and we still tell that story on him.
Hey Kayla,
If you thought that the Eucharist was real, as in the actual body and blood of Jesus, would you take it?
 
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Hey Kayla,
If you thought that the Eucharist was real, as in the actual body and blood of Jesus, would you take it?

Mmm that's a long mental leap for me to make. Kinda feel like my nephew did. lol
 

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I was referring to if they have the illumination of faith within their own churches.

My assumption is that most readers are non Catholics and are not intending to participate in Catholic mass.

But even having said that, change is coming the the Catholic church. A great awakening is rising, and the time is upon us to stop differentiating ourselves. Satan works through division and disagreement so in order to every Christian needs to start seeing people from other churches as their brother in Christ and recognise we are ALL part of the body of Christ.

Big things are coming and believe me, when they get here whether we are Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox etc etc will seem so very trivial. We'll all be on bended knee together in awe of the great and terrible power of God the Father and we'll need to work together for his glory and our own salvation on this immense day.
and the first thing Jesus will do when He returns is

get mr senile baby killer out of the white house.

I can dream, can't I?

anyhow, as to your comment RE seeing people outside the Church as our brethren...

i can't speak for other Catholics but my position is that it is the non-Catholics who reject Catholics and often accuse them of not being Christian... NOT the other way around... It seems most Catholics I know kind of bend over backwards to get along with Protestants and/or see their point about this and that issue or doctrine... I mean, seriously, it's amazing what they have been taught about the Church... a pack of lies.. and we all know who the father of lies is... And then when u point out that what they believe aabout the RCC is not true... well, it does not seem to make a dent a lot of the time.. to say the least
 

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Mmm that's a long mental leap for me to make. Kinda feel like my nephew did. lol
well, nonCatholics do not have to t ake Communion and definitely should NOT until/unless they become Catholic. Priests are not supposed to give Communion to those they know are outside the Church. But in any case, u don't need to partake of Eucharist to appreciate and benefit from being in the Real Presence, which emanates from the consecrated Hosts. In fact, things really began to change in my life when I began doing that. I was raised Catholic but no one had ever told me about the Real Presence. I feel like crying when I think of the good priest who told me about that many years ago... I may have only him (in the human realm) to thank for getting me to ... well, probably Purgatory first, then Heaven... It is Jesus who gets us to Heaven, but this human being really helped Jesus when he told me about the RP
 

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and the first thing Jesus will do when He returns is

get mr senile baby killer out of the white house.

I can dream, can't I?

anyhow, as to your comment RE seeing people outside the Church as our brethren...

i can't speak for other Catholics but my position is that it is the non-Catholics who reject Catholics and often accuse them of not being Christian... NOT the other way around... It seems most Catholics I know kind of bend over backwards to get along with Protestants and/or see their point about this and that issue or doctrine... I mean, seriously, it's amazing what they have been taught about the Church... a pack of lies.. and we all know who the father of lies is... And then when u point out that what they believe aabout the RCC is not true... well, it does not seem to make a dent a lot of the time.. to say the least
14 Do everything without grumbling or arguing, 15 so that you may become blameless and pure, “children of God without fault in a warped and crooked generation.” Then you will shine among them like stars in the sky

Philippians 2:14 - 15

This is the scripture God gave me this morning and maybe you might take heed of it too. It brought great joy and laughter to me this morning when I was complaining to Jesus that after my first ever proper Catholic style fast yesterday that I didn't feel very holy and that I felt I was doing it wrong. It was exactly the sassy Jesus comeback I needed to lift my spirits when I was talking into a pit of misery and self doubt.


You and I both know that Catholicing is a cradle to grave faith. I'm bound to the church by a deep belief in Jesus, salvation, sacraments and the belief that it's way more than just the holy Trinity who interacts with us to lead us toward Jesus and salvation.

But at the same time, I have the Pentecostal gifts that the other churches move freely in. I received them in the most Catholic of ways at Medjugorje and I use them in the most Catholic of ways such as wandering off in the gift of tongues when praying the rosary.

I honestly feel like I straddle both worlds. There aren't that many Catholics who are charismatic and Pentecostals look at me weird when I use the words rosary and praying in tongues in the same sentence. So for me personally, I feel I belong to both, but don't quite fit in either at the same time.

I guess personally I identify as a rosary rattling, Jesus and Mary loving, charismatic who is completely lost and confounded but the fact that God wants anything to do with him in the first place.
 

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I guess personally I identify as a rosary rattling, Jesus and Mary loving, charismatic who is completely lost and confounded but the fact that God wants anything to do with him in the first place.
well, I get something out of both "communities" myself, except I haven't been to a non-Catholic one in a long time

one of the reasons is that non-Catholics do not understand Catholics (I speak in generalities)

and worse, they more often than not seem to hate Catholics... just sharing my own reality here..

and that disturbs me... very un-Christian. I mean, even when/if someone disagrees w/ you, that doesn't mean you hate them.. and of course maybe they do not actually hate... but some of them definitely come across as hating... just my experiences 4 what they are worth
 
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I also think there is more animosity from Protestants towards Catholics than the reverse.
 
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Mmm that's a long mental leap for me to make. Kinda feel like my nephew did. lol
So I asked two protestant buddies this same question today. One of them is an assistant preacher. I won't tell you what he said, but I found his rationale to be quite interesting. I'm gonna make a poll. I'm finding this question to be extremely thought provoking.
 

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I also think there is more animosity from Protestants towards Catholics than the reverse.
Correction. "Towards the teachings of the Catholic church". But that is taken personally by Catholics, since they refuse to admit that those teachings are false and unbiblical.

Protestants cannot possibly have animosity towards the VICTIMS of the Vatican. In fact the Catholics they know personally are fine, upstanding people. But they have been gulled by their church and suffer from a form of the Stockholm Syndrome.
 

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well, I get something out of both "communities" myself, except I haven't been to a non-Catholic one in a long time

one of the reasons is that non-Catholics do not understand Catholics (I speak in generalities)

and worse, they more often than not seem to hate Catholics... just sharing my own reality here..

and that disturbs me... very un-Christian. I mean, even when/if someone disagrees w/ you, that doesn't mean you hate them.. and of course maybe they do not actually hate... but some of them definitely come across as hating... just my experiences 4 what they are worth
Oh I agree.

But love, patience and witness to our true belief will win over all but the hardest of hearts.

I saw an amazing prophesy about the Catholic church the other day from a non Catholic source.

Talking about causing a stir, this might as well