Leftist Thinking Is The Most Destructive Element In Existence

flygplan · Jul 5, 2021

Hitler wasn't a leftist, but all the contrary. We all know how that ended up. Both sides of politics: left or right when they become radical are bad. Both wings aren't either communist or fascist when moderate. We seem to forget that too easy these days. Even when I do incline towards the right wing, I do not even want to see what this looks like when it becomes radical.

JesusWhereRU · Jul 5, 2021

Phoneman-777 said:

I may not have time to read ALL of this today

but I've read about 1/2

the first thought that comes to me is this: You will never, EVER get me to believe that the Catholic Church is not the Church Christ founded.. I know this because I FOUND Jesus there in a way I could never, ever find Him anywhere else. I tried other communities... I never gained any power over sin until I ... well, first it was the rosary, then I made my way back to the Catholic Church...

The main thing I love about the Church is the Real (tangible, felt) Presence of Jesus Christ which emanates from the consecrated Hosts (John 6:27-72, 1 Cor 11:23...)

Protestants do not know about this, have not experienced it. Until they do, t hey will undoubtedly go on hating Catholicism and of course misunderstanding it completely...

that is their choice...

But again, I myself will never, EVER turn my back on the Jesus I have found in the Real Presence.. Yes, one can experience His Presence through reading His Words in the Bible... and yet, those words... Well, let's put it this way

you can read a letter from someone you love deeply

or you can be in that person's presence..

which do u prefer?

Phoneman-777 · Jul 6, 2021

flygplan said:

Of course Hitler was a leftist. The political spectrum is as follows, from Left to Right:

Total Gov't Totalitarianism -------------------------------------Center-------------------------------------------Zero Gov't. Anarchy

Now, where did Hitler line up? That's right....all the way over to the left, along with Marxism, Nazism, Fascism, Leninism, Stalinism, and every other "big government" ism there is.

Phoneman-777 · Jul 6, 2021

JesusWhereRU said:

While you may have found Christ there, the Catholic church CANNOT be the church Christ founded, because the Catholic Church teaches CONTRARY to the Bible and Jesus. The end times message from God to us is to "come out of her (Babylon), MY PEOPLE" which means God's people are found in every faith and system, but we are called to come out of such false ideologies once we hear the voice of God. We can't deny the facts of Scripture about what constitutes God's church, and the Catholic church ain't it.

flygplan · Jul 6, 2021

Phoneman-777 said:

I guess we need to read a little bit more before throwing just opinions because of what we think. Your "political spectrum" line couldn't be further from the reality of history and politics. Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about.

In his (and Hess's) book; Mein Kampf, Hitler portrays himself as anti-marxist/anti-communist and anti-semitic. Here is why I believe we are called to be careful when throwing information we don't even know we're talking about when it comes to politics and what is what. Totalitarian governments can swing both ways: right or left.

Sir Winston Churchill said this about Hitler's politics in his book "The Gathering Storm":

“All was there—the programme of German resurrection, the technique of party propaganda; the plan for combating Marxism; the concept of a National-Socialist State; the rightful position of Germany at the summit of the world. Here was the new Koran of faith and war: turgid, verbose, shapeless, but pregnant with its message.”

We can obviously see it was his own twisted way of combatting Marxist communism. Obviously his view was not towards a state run economy (Communism) but a market economy that was war-driven, and far-right nationalist, which was driven by mass privatization. So where in all this is communism? I ask.

Now these are facts. Documented; not my gut, not my view on politics. It'd be better to hear more of this and less misinformation. It's more constructive.

Nehemiah6 · Jul 8, 2021

flygplan said:

Today it is not the same as back then. We have an amalgam of Marxist/Communist/Fascist/Anarchist/Racist thinking among the American Leftists. Antifa is blatantly Fascist and BLM is blatantly racist. And the word "Socialist" is common to "Nazi" as well as "USSR". Two sides of the same coin. Satanic Bondage and Oppression.

We have the COVID and Vaccine Gestapo at the same time that the State wants to control free speech and install Statism through trillions of dollars going into the wrong hands. Add to that Black Racism (including CRT), where black farmers are given federal assistance and white farmers are denied the same. This was recently ruled unconstitutional, but Biden and the Democrats give a hoot about the Constitution, or the Bill of Rights, or the rule of law. Anarchy must prevail before the American Bolsheviks take total control.

Phoneman-777 · Jul 10, 2021

flygplan said:

I guess we need to read a little bit more before throwing just opinions because of what we think. Your "political spectrum" line couldn't be further from the reality of history and politics. Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about.

In his (and Hess's) book; Mein Kampf, Hitler portrays himself as anti-marxist/anti-communist and anti-semitic. Here is why I believe we are called to be careful when throwing information we don't even know we're talking about when it comes to politics and what is what. Totalitarian governments can swing both ways: right or left.

Sir Winston Churchill said this about Hitler's politics in his book "The Gathering Storm":

“All was there—the programme of German resurrection, the technique of party propaganda; the plan for combating Marxism; the concept of a National-Socialist State; the rightful position of Germany at the summit of the world. Here was the new Koran of faith and war: turgid, verbose, shapeless, but pregnant with its message.”

We can obviously see it was his own twisted way of combatting Marxist communism. Obviously his view was not towards a state run economy (Communism) but a market economy that was war-driven, and far-right nationalist, which was driven by mass privatization. So where in all this is communism? I ask.

Now these are facts. Documented; not my gut, not my view on politics. It'd be better to hear more of this and less misinformation. It's more constructive.

How much control did Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Caesar, etc., wish to exert over the masses?

Would you say it was closer to Total Govt. Control or Anarchy?

You should put down you lying Political Science textbooks and get an actual education on what's really going on:

gb9 · Jul 11, 2021

you and i disagree a lot over in the Bible discussion forum, maybe we can agree on this-

what is it going to take to get people to wake up and to see the times we are living in, and what is going on.??

i mean, if the government coming to your door and wanting to inject you with something in a needle does not wake folks up, what will??

49 · Jul 11, 2021

gb9 said:

Folk may disagree with me, and that's fine...the writing is on the wall. To answer your question: when blood is in the streets, and brother turns against brother, child against parent, neighbor against neighbor. It is coming....

gb9 · Jul 11, 2021

49 said:

i was not speaking to you about disagreeing . i generally agree with you.

sorry i was not clear about that....

49 · Jul 11, 2021

gb9 said:

i was not speaking to you about disagreeing . i generally agree with you.

sorry i was not clear about that....[/QUOTE

Not at all, I am rarely in BDF, and knew who you were speaking to

Do appreciate though

Phoneman-777 · Jul 12, 2021

gb9 said:

The Protestant Reformers proved from the Bible that the Papacy is the 1st Beast of Revelation 13 - the Antichrist which claims to take the place of Christ. John Wesley wrote a commentary about this very chapter which expressed the sentiments of Historicism's teaching that the 1,260 year reign of the 1st Beast was about to come to a close (the 1,260 years from 538 A.D. to 1798 A.D.) by virtue of a "deadly wound" and he said the Protestant church was looking for the soon arising of the 2nd Beast which would come up as the 1st Beast was going down.

There's no doubt if any of them were alive today, they'd point to EXACTLY which nation PRECISELY fits the description of that 2nd Beast: the United States. So, it shouldn't surprise anyone this nation is doing what it's doing. Things are NOT going to get better. They're going to get so bad that in desperation, the people will clamor for legislation enforcing worship, and this worship will be global - if anyone refuses to accept the Mark of this global apostate religion, it will not be well with them. But, refuse, we must, if we are Christians at all.

gb9 · Jul 12, 2021

Phoneman-777 said:

The Protestant Reformers proved from the Bible that the Papacy is the 1st Beast of Revelation 13 - the Antichrist which claims to take the place of Christ. John Wesley wrote a commentary about this very chapter which expressed the sentiments of Historicism's teaching that the 1,260 year reign of the 1st Beast was about to come to a close (the 1,260 years from 538 A.D. to 1798 A.D.) by virtue of a "deadly wound" and he said the Protestant church was looking for the soon arising of the 2nd Beast which would come up as the 1st Beast was going down.

There's no doubt if any of them were alive today, they'd point to EXACTLY which nation PRECISELY fits the description of that 2nd Beast: the United States. So, it shouldn't surprise anyone this nation is doing what it's doing. Things are NOT going to get better. They're going to get so bad that in desperation, the people will clamor for legislation enforcing worship, and this worship will be global - if anyone refuses to accept the Mark of this global apostate religion, it will not be well with them. But, refuse, we must, if we are Christians at all.

and to back that up, right here and now folks are demanding the federal gov. mandate vaccines.....

ChoirLoft · Jul 13, 2021

Phoneman-777 said:

The nature of Fascism is best described as Corporatism. (*)

Corporate 'force' is regularly used against the community irregardless of government awareness or regulation. Sometimes it's applied with government sanction.

Corporate prices are generally fixed - as in pharmaceuticals, food prices, small appliances including electronics, and the garbage we're exposed to in the form of advertising. No government in history has so promulgated its policies and interests upon a civilian population as has American based mega-corporations.

The American government is supported and guided by these corporate interests. Specifically there are three branches of this unelected government; the military-industrial complex, the intelligence community and our financial cartel. It remains a subject of considerable debate as to which of these branches of unelected government are most dangerous and least considerate of the American public. It is a proven fact that the combination of these three is dangerous aggressive and disinterested in international or domestic law.

It isn't Fascism that can't survive without government in America, it's the other way around. The Federal government as it is known today cannot survive in its present form without this corporate influence and direction. Thus the office of the President of the United States is a middle management position only. True decisions are made by those who "pull his strings" as well as implemented according to the orders he receives. This situation has been apparent since the mid 1960's.

It has been said that if a man is going crazy he should move to Washington, DC where it will not be noticed.

The rest of the self-servicing uninformed public lives elsewhere. Christians, who ought to know better, are so heavenly minded they are of no earthly value.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

(*) Benito Mussolini uttered this definition early in his administration in pre-WWII Italy. It remains true today especially in twenty-first century America.

ChoirLoft · Jul 13, 2021

Phoneman-777 said:

You are correct - provisionally.

It's true political leftists accuse Republicans of fascism at every turn of a discussion, but its also true that political conservatives accuse Democrats of Communist tendencies. Neither is completely accurate. Both disregard the true nature of American politics, which has nothing at all to do with the will of the people.

In truth, rule of the American society is determined by three non-elected groups; the military-industrial complex, the intelligence community and our financial cartel.

Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J. O'Rourke

"The CIA has every imaginable media outlet covered." - William Casey former director of the CIA

"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies." -Thomas Jefferson

"No nation ..can.. preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare." - James Madison (4th President of the united States)

Neither Democrats nor Republicans are interested in the will or the benefit of the American people. Read their own words;

"The role of government is to rein in the rights of the people." - Bill Clinton (D)

'There ought to be limits to freedom.' - George W. Bush (R)

Anybody who believes that one Democratic leader or a Republican leader can willingly and independently lead America into a prosperous and free future is denying the truth of history and the flow of events. There can be NO liberty or prosperity apart from surrender to Christ Jesus and His will for our lives and for our country.

But America has turned its back upon Jesus - choosing instead to follow religious or political celebrities instead. As a result the gospel has been diluted and God's LAW has been denied.

IF GOD DOESN'T JUDGE AMERICA HE WILL HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO SODOM AND GOMORRAH.

Indeed, that judgment may already be upon us.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

OldSage · Jul 13, 2021

Days of Sodom

OldSage · Jul 13, 2021

Phoneman-777 · Jul 13, 2021

gb9 said:

You mean vaccines for a "virus", the survival rate of which is 99.7%?

Phoneman-777 · Jul 13, 2021

ChoirLoft said:

The nature of Fascism is best described as Corporatism. (*)

Corporate 'force' is regularly used against the community irregardless of government awareness or regulation. Sometimes it's applied with government sanction.

Corporate prices are generally fixed - as in pharmaceuticals, food prices, small appliances including electronics, and the garbage we're exposed to in the form of advertising. No government in history has so promulgated its policies and interests upon a civilian population as has American based mega-corporations.

The American government is supported and guided by these corporate interests. Specifically there are three branches of this unelected government; the military-industrial complex, the intelligence community and our financial cartel. It remains a subject of considerable debate as to which of these branches of unelected government are most dangerous and least considerate of the American public. It is a proven fact that the combination of these three is dangerous aggressive and disinterested in international or domestic law.

It isn't Fascism that can't survive without government in America, it's the other way around. The Federal government as it is known today cannot survive in its present form without this corporate influence and direction. Thus the office of the President of the United States is a middle management position only. True decisions are made by those who "pull his strings" as well as implemented according to the orders he receives. This situation has been apparent since the mid 1960's.

It has been said that if a man is going crazy he should move to Washington, DC where it will not be noticed.

The rest of the self-servicing uninformed public lives elsewhere. Christians, who ought to know better, are so heavenly minded they are of no earthly value.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

(*) Benito Mussolini uttered this definition early in his administration in pre-WWII Italy. It remains true today especially in twenty-first century America.

It's not the other way around.

Corporations DO NOT have arms with which to shove in our face to impose their will...but GOVERNMENT not only has seemingly unlimited arms at their disposal, but they are in bed with their willing corporate accomplices for the continuous development of new weaponry for use by government via the Military Industrial Complex.

gb9 · Jul 13, 2021

Phoneman-777 said:

yep, that is the virus that we must get the vax for, it is the only way to survive ( they say).

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