I’m not sure this applies. Now if you said, “How many times has God forgiven your selfishness and lack of desire to serve?” then I would see your point.
divorce, remarrriage and separation- Bibically?
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It has to do with Mosaic Law. If that doesn’t apply then maybe forcing adultery on an ex doesn’t either. I’m showing you that you might be putting new wine in old wine skins.
I am agreeing with the Word of God. I do not base my Doctrine on any man's situation, no matter how sad it might be. If Scripture says Oyster is a bastard, then Oyster accepts this. Just a temporary situation. No worries.
No you are not agreeing with the word of God. You are trying to apply scripture to situations that aren’t applicable. Christ told the Jews (not us) if you divorce your wife for reason other than fornication, you force her and a future lover to commit adultery. That’s just not true today. If I divorce my wife, she has no need to remarry. She makes good money, and has a wealthy father, who will be leaving her more than enough to sustain her.
So, if I must apply a verse every time I want to take a step in life then why not, “Whoever leaves their wife for my sake will inherit a hundred times in the life to come.”?
I’m honestly waiting for the Lord to instruct me as He has in the past. I’m not going to choose a path based on what God told someone else, somewhere else, some time long ago. He is present.
Is that what Jesus said? Is that what Paul said?
Only those who directly and personally know of any particular situation can comment on any remarriage. And if it pertains to Christians, then those who have oversight of the particular church where that couple attends would need to know all the details before they could comment.
I agree. Jesus said that regarding writing certificate of divorce. It was based on women being unable to support themselves
it is true today because when God said as Jesus quoted in Matthew 5 and Matt 19:3-6 What God has joined together Let nothing separate. Then Jesus said, Moses, permitted the letter of divorcement because of your unforgiven Heart, which is the number one reason why divorce happens today, again not the only reason.
Times and seasons
then women could not go and work they were home builders and raising children
Women today have been " liberated " these helped men leave their wives easier she did not have to become a woman of adultery to make it as they did then, in addition, the government today will support the mother and child as long as the man is not in the home.
a Demonic way to tear down the family by removing the father. Which Jesus said would happen Divorce is not fixing anything it is tearing people apart and children
many women after divorce suffer from the abuse long after the abuser has left to where they can't even move on in their life. many young people today lack social skills because the examples we have had failed us.
This is why Jesus said and the word of God deal with your heart you adulterers and fornicators repent and serve the Lord build up your faith so when you do get married you are not entering into a relationship with baggage. When you are married pray for your husband and wife and ask God is this what you want me to do? NOT do it then ask God to bless your actions.
19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
When does God put asunder a marriage? Either He meant what He said about adultery, whether physical or in the heart, or He didn't. Is this hard for you to accept?
I will leave you to your futile rationalizations then. Just remember; You will stand before God in the end, not Oyster. He will not repeat Himself 500 times like we have.
Agreed, that’s why I’m waiting on His instruction. I do not follow what I think is rational. I also will not stand before Him saying, “I read what You said to Adam, so I thought it meant me too.”
remember what God said Adam Jesus said to the Disciples and the leaders. Jesus did not say this was for Adam only, Jesus was speaking to those of that day and it is the same today in context to God's standard of marriage. Jesus reinforced what was said in Gen 2:24. Therefore the standard of marriage and divorce is as it was from the beginning.
I agree but the whole family dynamic, wives and husbands roles and social structure is incongruent with life in the Garden of Eden. I don’t see how most men can subscribe to the motto, HAPPY WIFE, HAPPY LIFE, and still serve the Lord. There is no one flesh. There is two people living two lives. There may be a legal union but no holy unity. My wife is always only concerned with herself. This is not how it was ordained from the beginning. I’m not looking to find a loophole in Scripture so I can leave my wife in good conscience. I know God is preparing me for something. This is my wilderness. I pray that it all ends soon. I honestly can’t wait to die. God already told me there will be no happiness in this life for me. I just desire a more purposeful existence. Life with her is agony.
You can't judge marriage based on the context of man not fallen or post falling Marriage is as God ordained it to be and Jesus reinforced it. There is nothing that happens then that doesn't happen today in the context of marriage. Marriage is a blessing and after 29 years of if I can see now, it blessed me more than I know. during the first 10 years, both my wife and I have thought we have made a mistake, but we held on and I have no desire to let go.
Congratulations. If the doctor told me I had a fightable terminal illness, I wouldn’t fight it. I would thank God for His mercy and run toward the light and not look back. That doesn’t stop me from being in the best shape of my life. I beat my flesh into submission. It is a well maintained instrument for the Lord.
my marriage was not fighting a sickness it was to people fighting with God with the whole world against what God joined together we won! I am not the only one
I’m sure you are not. My wife is not fighting with God. She thinks she is saved, righteous and a good person. She thinks everyone else is against her and mean for not being more helpful to her. She doesn’t even know how impossible and needy she truly is. She is beyond the help of man but not the Lord. Hopefully one day I can testify as you do about a happy ending in the Lord. Thanks for the support.my marriage was not fighting a sickness it was to people fighting with God with the whole world against what God joined together we won! I am not the only one
This is a good testimony. You are in good company. All who have been redeemed by the precious Blood of The Lamb should eagerly await His return...
Matthew
6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as [it is] in heaven.
6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
6:20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
How would that be? in what way possible could a man's wife prevent him from fully serving the Lord? if God has called a man into service He will provide ABUNDANTLY [as you yourself quote ... or half quote] both for the husband and the wife.
If He doesn't I would question the calling. Anybody who thinks they can just abandon their wife and kids to serve the Lord is heading for big, big trouble.