Warning to Christians: Totally Refuse COVID Vaccines

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Gideon300

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already banned but I'll have a go

there is a real virus. it is not a virulent as they would have us believe however

fear causes all kinds of reactions and most of the time, none of them good unless you are fleeing for safety from something

you are a little (quite a little) mixed up on your facts above...thankfully I won't have to argue with you
People who have died from COVID or who are suffering long term effects probably won't agree with you.
That's good. In Australia we just had a big weekend of protests. The biggest so far down here. Need more from America I think many yanks are distracted at the moment by politics and ideology...

But such protests need to happen more frequently. Daily... A friend suggested that nothing will happen unless there are riots... He may be right... Can rioting be morally justified? It seemed to work for BLM
That is simply wrong. I'd call it something else but I'm trying to keep my cool. BLM is a deliberate strategy to destroy the fabric of America. Which means to destroy any Christian content that is still there. How do I know? They say so. The founder is a Gucci Marxist, proof that under Communism that all people are equal. It's just that some are more equal than others.

That something works does not make it right. if you can find one word in the Bible where it says that Jesus called for civil disobedience, I may have to rethink my stand. I've read it cover to cover, several times. Nowhere is rebellion tolerated or encouraged. Israel rose up against Rome. Israel was destroyed. Tertullian (?) refused to accept the rewards normally given to the victor. He said that even Israel's God was against them.

The USA has been a spiritual bulwark for many years, perhaps replacing the United Kingdom, who lost the plot after Queen Victoria died. The USA is in spiritual decline and China is on the rise. Americans should be learning Mandarin. It will come in handy one day.

God punishes by withholding His mercy, grace and power and leaving people to their own ways. I like America and Americans. I've been there for work and on holiday. I noted a big change from 1994 to 2016. People were not as happy, discontented and not as friendly. Now I saw a small part of the US, so maybe everywhere else is is deliriously happy. Somehow I doubt it.
 
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The acceptance of vaccine death and injury...
An all new low in moral standards...

CDC reports about 10,000 vaccine deaths...
The world's population is 24 times America's. So we can safely extrapolate that to 240,000 deaths world wide...

But...
The CDC itself says that less than 1% of events are actually reported... So it could be 24 million deaths... Even at 10% we have 2.4 million people dead from the experimental needle...

Those working for the devil will make all kinds of excuses. The fact of the matter is that even one death from a vaccine manufacturer that's not liable, is MURDER... Especially while being promoted as "safe and effective"

Pushing forced vaccines is a moral abomination... It's our God given right to choose what we take...
 
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People who have died from COVID or who are suffering long term effects probably won't agree with you.

That is simply wrong. I'd call it something else but I'm trying to keep my cool. BLM is a deliberate strategy to destroy the fabric of America. Which means to destroy any Christian content that is still there. How do I know? They say so. The founder is a Gucci Marxist, proof that under Communism that all people are equal. It's just that some are more equal than others.

That something works does not make it right. if you can find one word in the Bible where it says that Jesus called for civil disobedience, I may have to rethink my stand. I've read it cover to cover, several times. Nowhere is rebellion tolerated or encouraged. Israel rose up against Rome. Israel was destroyed. Tertullian (?) refused to accept the rewards normally given to the victor. He said that even Israel's God was against them.

The USA has been a spiritual bulwark for many years, perhaps replacing the United Kingdom, who lost the plot after Queen Victoria died. The USA is in spiritual decline and China is on the rise. Americans should be learning Mandarin. It will come in handy one day.

God punishes by withholding His mercy, grace and power and leaving people to their own ways. I like America and Americans. I've been there for work and on holiday. I noted a big change from 1994 to 2016. People were not as happy, discontented and not as friendly. Now I saw a small part of the US, so maybe everywhere else is is deliriously happy. Somehow I doubt it.
If freedom isn't worth fighting for than what is
 
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Anyone promoting experimental needles is abetting the devils work...

Plain and simple

It's Satan's will to be taking away our God given right to choose...
 

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Brooks: Further COVID Shutdowns Would Be Result of ‘Human Error’ of Too Many Unvaccinated

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...sult-of-human-error-of-too-many-unvaccinated/

So Biden's open border policy, Democrats fleeing Texas without masks on a chartered plane or any gathering for a leftist cause which has involved protests and riots has had nothing to do with the spread? Let's just blame it all on the unvaccinated, who are primarily people from the right. Now that fits the leftist narrative. :rolleyes:
 

Nehemiah6

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Too late I have had both Astra Virus Jabs.
While you may have escaped any devastating effects, AstraZeneca's "vaccine" has proven itself to be extremely dangerous. Most countries in Europe have banned it. But the other "vaccines" are no different. They should all be banned. Check the statistics.

"Denmark was the first country to ban COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, followed by Ireland, Thailand, the Netherlands, Norway, Iceland, Congo, and Bulgaria... Many European countries, including Germany, France, Italy, and Spain recently suspended the use of AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine after experts found dangerous blood clots in some vaccine recipients, according to various news sources.... Canada and Britain will still allocate the vaccine until further evidence is found. And while Finland resumed using the vaccine after a brief suspension at the end of March, it will only be given to individuals 65 years of age and older. South Korea has similarly limited distribution of the vaccine in light of the findings out of Europe. The vaccine will no longer be distributed to people under 60 years of age there."

https://pharmanewsintel.com/news/european-countries-suspend-use-of-astrazenecas-covid-19-vaccine
 
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People who have died from COVID or who are suffering long term effects probably won't agree with you.
That is simply wrong. I'd call it something else but I'm trying to keep my cool. BLM is a deliberate strategy to destroy the fabric of America. Which means to destroy any Christian content that is still there. How do I know? They say so. The founder is a Gucci Marxist, proof that under Communism that all people are equal. It's just that some are more equal than others.
People dying from the shot would disagree with you...only they can't.

I assume you disagree with this:
there is a real virus. it is not a virulent as they would have us believe however

do you know the actual death rate of the virus? perhaps if actual therapeutics were administered, instead of saying they do not exist, people would not be living with bad info hanging over their heads.

what do you want with BLM?

That something works does not make it right. if you can find one word in the Bible where it says that Jesus called for civil disobedience, I may have to rethink my stand. I've read it cover to cover, several times. Nowhere is rebellion tolerated or encouraged. Israel rose up against Rome. Israel was destroyed. Tertullian (?) refused to accept the rewards normally given to the victor. He said that even Israel's God was against them.
so if they come at you with a 666 chip you going to let them implant it? this has nothing to do with civil disobedience...if they tell you they want to take away your ability to have a child...that's ok too?
there is no relevance whatsoever in what you say, to the topic at hand. smh

The USA has been a spiritual bulwark for many years, perhaps replacing the United Kingdom, who lost the plot after Queen Victoria died. The USA is in spiritual decline and China is on the rise. Americans should be learning Mandarin. It will come in handy one day.
you sound peeved. are you peeved?

God punishes by withholding His mercy, grace and power and leaving people to their own ways. I like America and Americans. I've been there for work and on holiday. I noted a big change from 1994 to 2016. People were not as happy, discontented and not as friendly. Now I saw a small part of the US, so maybe everywhere else is is deliriously happy. Somehow I doubt it.
this is just blowing smoke and not dealing with the topic
 

Nehemiah6

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No proof for your claime, how then we should believe it?
Aidan, even if you were presented with proof directly from the official agencies which are publishing vaccine deaths, you would find a way to deny the reality of the killer vaccines. So you yourself are not serious about proof at all. You are more serious about supporting the Satanic agenda.

I asked you to PROVE that my sources were lying but since you could not do so, you turned it around and asked me for proof! Which proves that it was you who was lying. Many on this thread have provided proof after proof of the lethal and toxic nature of these bogus vaccines. But you have still failed to educate yourself about this whole COVID conspiracy. You have been trying to justify the wicked men who are carrying out Satan's work -- to steal, kill, and destroy.

It was wicked governor Cuomo of New York state who claimed that if it could save just ONE LIFE, he would lock down New York state. Well even though thousands have died from the vaccines and hundreds of thousands (if not millions) have suffered severe adverse effects, how come those bogus vaccines have not been banned?

Just remember what God says in Isaiah 5 about those who call evil good, and good evil: 20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! 21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! 22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink: 23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him! 24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.
 

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While you may have escaped any devastating effects, AstraZeneca's "vaccine" has proven itself to be extremely dangerous. Most countries in Europe have banned it. But the other "vaccines" are no different. They should all be banned. Check the statistics.

"Denmark was the first country to ban COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, followed by Ireland, Thailand, the Netherlands, Norway, Iceland, Congo, and Bulgaria... Many European countries, including Germany, France, Italy, and Spain recently suspended the use of AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine after experts found dangerous blood clots in some vaccine recipients, according to various news sources.... Canada and Britain will still allocate the vaccine until further evidence is found. And while Finland resumed using the vaccine after a brief suspension at the end of March, it will only be given to individuals 65 years of age and older. South Korea has similarly limited distribution of the vaccine in light of the findings out of Europe. The vaccine will no longer be distributed to people under 60 years of age there."

https://pharmanewsintel.com/news/european-countries-suspend-use-of-astrazenecas-covid-19-vaccine

Have the number of Astra Zeneca recipients with blood clots been compared with the number of people who have developed dangerous clots without having astra zeneca vaccines or indeed any covid vaccines at all? I doubt it. Bad luck if your over 65 and Finnish or over 60 in South korea. In the UK millions have had the Astra Jab so according to you or your ''experts'' most of the country will be dying like flies very soon unless like myself are passed retirement age and have some mysterious means of escaping it. The situation in Europe has nothing to do with the minute number of people who happen to become sick. Its about Politics and economics
 
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SophieT, if you read my post, you must noticed that I did nowhere denyd that the Covid vaccine have sideeffects.
But most vaccines have sideeffects. A certain % of vaccined people will get them.
That there is no much time to find out the longtermeffects lays on the hand. But should we wait 5 or 10 years before vaccine the people? Would this be the solution?
So it is a risk. But have you an better alternative possibility to fight the virus?
I deny also not that through this situation the Digital possibilitys to controle the people grows up extremly.
But this dont means that the controle will come through the vaccine itself.
God has his Plans with this world, and he will fulfill them.
well, if you read MY post, Aidan, you would understand that the covid shot is NOT a vaccine and it has NOT been approved

it is only being used, without proper testing, during this so called pandemic for emergency measures

let that sink in because those are the facts

the rest is just you denying the facts. again.

to state all vaccines have side effects is just really ignorant...and I am not calling you ignorant but in this case you actually are.

as far as alternatives, perhaps using the therapeutics that have been proven to reduce the covid effects on the body would be a better plan...those who receive them do much better and do not need to stay in hospital and get over this flu much faster

God has his Plans with this world, and he will fulfill them
John 3:16
 

Nehemiah6

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Have the number of Astra Zeneca recipients with blood clots been compared with the number of people who have developed dangerous clots without having astra zeneca vaccines or indeed any covid vaccines at all?
What has definitely been compared is the total number of ADVERSE EFFECTS (including blood clots) from all vaccinations in the USA starting from 1990 and the huge spike in adverse effects and deaths since December 2020 (when the bogus vaccines began to roll out). There has been nothing like this in the past. And the current number of deaths in the USA is over 12,000.

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Aidan1

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The acceptance of vaccine death and injury...
An all new low in moral standards...

CDC reports about 10,000 vaccine deaths...
The world's population is 24 times America's. So we can safely extrapolate that to 240,000 deaths world wide...

But...
The CDC itself says that less than 1% of events are actually reported... So it could be 24 million deaths... Even at 10% we have 2.4 million people dead from the experimental needle...

Those working for the devil will make all kinds of excuses. The fact of the matter is that even one death from a vaccine manufacturer that's not liable, is MURDER... Especially while being promoted as "safe and effective"

Pushing forced vaccines is a moral abomination... It's our God given right to choose what we take...
PC123, but this is only speculation. There is no proof that this will come in this way. And you cant count the situation of the USA to the rest of the world. The situation in every country is different. As I said in germany its present 0,0024 % of the vaccined.
And what is your alternative to vaccinate the people. Wait and see who will survife?
 

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well, if you read MY post, Aidan, you would understand that the covid shot is NOT a vaccine and it has NOT been approved

it is only being used, without proper testing, during this so called pandemic for emergency measures

let that sink in because those are the facts

the rest is just you denying the facts. again.

to state all vaccines have side effects is just really ignorant...and I am not calling you ignorant but in this case you actually are.

as far as alternatives, perhaps using the therapeutics that have been proven to reduce the covid effects on the body would be a better plan...those who receive them do much better and do not need to stay in hospital and get over this flu much faster



John 3:16
SophieT, Sars-coV-2 is no flu!! The infectionway may be the same, but the virus is different! This is a proofable fact!
If you say it is no vaccine, then you dont know something about vaccination.
The people who are serious hit with the virus dont get enough oxigene in their body. I dont know you ever had the feeling to get not enough oxigene? I saw enough patients and their fear to Die. Mostly COPD patients.
The therapeutics you mentioned helps nothing in this situation.
The most people who get Covid will not have any problems, but we should have in Focus those who will get problems. Or should we leave them without help?
That the vaccine is not proofed is not true. No vaccine will be thrown on the market without proofing! The longtermeffects are not proofed, thats correct.

Yes, John 3,16 is correct, but also that we are i the endtime and that the Antichrist will come. He will not use the vaccine against Corona. And God will give this world 7 years in his Hand. ( 3 1/2 years).
 
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SophieT, Sars-coV-2 is no flu!! The infectionway may be the same, but the virus is different! This is a proofable fact!
If you say it is no vaccine, then you dont know something about vaccination.
The people who are serious hit with the virus dont get enough oxigene in their body. I dont know you ever had the feeling to get not enough oxigene? I saw enough patients and their fear to Die. Mostly COPD patients.
The therapeutics you mentioned helps nothing in this situation.
The most people who get Covid will not have any problems, but we should have in Focus those who will get problems. Or should we leave them without help?
That the vaccine is not proofed is not true. No vaccine will be thrown on the market without proofing! The longtermeffects are not proofed, thats correct.

Yes, John 3,16 is correct, but also that we are i the endtime and that the Antichrist will come. He will not use the vaccine against Corona. And God will give this world 7 years in his Hand. ( 3 1/2 years).
listen

you can accept whatever you want and as much of it as you wish and then double the order

BUT you cannot ignore, deny and whitewash the facts for your own peace of mind

The most people who get Covid will not have any problems, but we should have in Focus those who will get problems. Or should we leave them without help?
that does not make sense. we are supposedly able to know who the most vulnerable are. 40 if you are obese and 65 and older. but now they want to use the un-vacc on 12 yr olds and up in this country at least. and wear a mask that we know is not effective in protecting from a virus that can go right through the mask.

That the vaccine is not proofed is not true.
1. it is not a vaccine

1. it has not been approved which means it is not approved

3. you have read post after post after post wherein the above facts are spelled out to you, including links to sites directly related to the drug companies and the gov

4. because you have had the facts given to you and you still say they are not true, you are in denial and deny that also...so I guess that is double denial :unsure:

Yes, John 3,16 is correct, but also that we are i the endtime and that the Antichrist will come. He will not use the vaccine against Corona. And God will give this world 7 years in his Hand. ( 3 1/2 years
trying to foretell the future according to your understanding or what you read somewhere is as accurate as your understanding of the corona virus, the so called vaccine (which is not a vaccine, and the side effects and deaths created by the not a vaccine)

in other words, you are not gifted in the prophetic ;)
 

Aidan1

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The acceptance of vaccine death and injury...
An all new low in moral standards...

CDC reports about 10,000 vaccine deaths...
The world's population is 24 times America's. So we can safely extrapolate that to 240,000 deaths world wide...

But...
The CDC itself says that less than 1% of events are actually reported... So it could be 24 million deaths... Even at 10% we have 2.4 million people dead from the experimental needle...

Those working for the devil will make all kinds of excuses. The fact of the matter is that even one death from a vaccine manufacturer that's not liable, is MURDER... Especially while being promoted as "safe and effective"

Pushing forced vaccines is a moral abomination... It's our God given right to choose what we take...
But this is only speculation. There is no proof that this will come in this way. And you cant count the situation of the USA to the rest of the world. The situation in every country is different. As I said in germany its present 0,0024 % of the vaccined.
And what is your alternative to vaccinate the people. Wait
Aidan, even if you were presented with proof directly from the official agencies which are publishing vaccine deaths, you would find a way to deny the reality of the killer vaccines. So you yourself are not serious about proof at all. You are more serious about supporting the Satanic agenda.

I asked you to PROVE that my sources were lying but since you could not do so, you turned it around and asked me for proof! Which proves that it was you who was lying. Many on this thread have provided proof after proof of the lethal and toxic nature of these bogus vaccines. But you have still failed to educate yourself about this whole COVID conspiracy. You have been trying to justify the wicked men who are carrying out Satan's work -- to steal, kill, and destroy.

It was wicked governor Cuomo of New York state who claimed that if it could save just ONE LIFE, he would lock down New York state. Well even though thousands have died from the vaccines and hundreds of thousands (if not millions) have suffered severe adverse effects, how come those bogus vaccines have not been banned?

Just remember what God says in Isaiah 5 about those who call evil good, and good evil: 20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! 21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! 22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink: 23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him! 24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.
Well, i showed you that your Informations came from people/ Organisations which are known for their false reports and conspiracy issues. You trust them, i do not.
I dont know what the different is to your country. In my country are so far nearly 0,0024 % of the over 50 million vaccined people died after vaccinated. The most of them had several pre deseases. You claimed that 65% of the vaccined will die. Where is the proof for such statement? You make people fear to take the vaccine without showing a alternative. I dont talk about the most who will not get serious health problems. I am talking from those which will get serious health problems.
And not only this you try to fear people in telling them that the vaccine is from the devil.
Much more people dieing and suffering about the Sars-coV-2 infection. What is your solution for this? Waiting who will survive? Giving good food and vitamins? The most people in this world have not this resources.
If you choose to take the vaccine not it is your beer. But to claime false things for to create fear to people to take the vaccine can be dangerous for them.
 

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4. because you have had the facts given to you and you still say they are not true, you are in denial and deny that also...so I guess that is double denial :unsure:
That is called "wilful blindness". There is no excuse and no remedy for wilful blindness.

Now here is the kicker. The PCR test was the bedrock of the COVID Scam. But because all it has done is produce FALSE POSITIVES. it is being "cancelled". This is from the FDA web site [https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices...ntigen-rapid-qualitative-test-risk-false-test]

Innova Medical Group Recalls Unauthorized SARS-CoV-2 Antigen Rapid Qualitative Test with Risk of False Test Results

Reason for Recall
Innova Medical Group is recalling its SARS-CoV-2 Antigen Rapid Qualitative Test. Labeling distributed with certain configurations of the test includes performance claims that did not accurately reflect the performance estimates observed during the clinical studies of the tests. The performance characteristics of the test have not been adequately established, presenting a risk of false results. [Note: these people and FDA knew from the get-go that the PCR test was unreliable. But they promoted it to get big bucks]
  • False-negative results may lead to delayed diagnosis or inappropriate treatment of SARS-CoV-2, which may cause patient harm including serious illness and death. False-negative results can also lead to further spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, including when presumed negative patients are grouped into cohorts in health care, long-term care, and other facilities based on false test results.
  • False-positive results could lead to a delay in the correct diagnosis and the initiation of an appropriate treatment for the actual cause of patient illness, which could be another life-threatening disease that is not SARS-CoV-2. False-positive results could also lead to further spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus when presumed positive patients are grouped into cohorts based on false test results. [Note: this last comment is totally bogus. There is no spread of Wuhan virus by those who are asymptomatic false positives. And there are no other "life threatening diseases". Just life threatening "vaccines". How much more BS will they continue to publish?].
This means that 99% of all so-called "cases" were bogus. The lockdowns were based on bogus results. And the vaccines are as bogus as the PCR tests. But the lies will not stop. Now Republican governors and Trump (all of whom should know better) are pushing for everyone to be vaccinated. So you cannot trust anyone regarding the vaccines.
 
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so much misinformation and disregard for adverse effects and even death

anyone who is pushing the so called vaccines at this point has some kind of agenda in my viewpoint

everyone
 

Aidan1

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listen

you can accept whatever you want and as much of it as you wish and then double the order

BUT you cannot ignore, deny and whitewash the facts for your own peace of mind



that does not make sense. we are supposedly able to know who the most vulnerable are. 40 if you are obese and 65 and older. but now they want to use the un-vacc on 12 yr olds and up in this country at least. and wear a mask that we know is not effective in protecting from a virus that can go right through the mask.



1. it is not a vaccine

1. it has not been approved which means it is not approved

3. you have read post after post after post wherein the above facts are spelled out to you, including links to sites directly related to the drug companies and the gov

4. because you have had the facts given to you and you still say they are not true, you are in denial and deny that also...so I guess that is double denial :unsure:



trying to foretell the future according to your understanding or what you read somewhere is as accurate as your understanding of the corona virus, the so called vaccine (which is not a vaccine, and the side effects and deaths created by the not a vaccine)

in other words, you are not gifted in the prophetic ;)
1. I never claimed to be a prophet
2. Bible tells that the mark of the beast is visible. So it cant be a vaccine or something what is given in through a vaccine.
3. A vaccine is something what is given to Motivation the body to create an antibody for to fight against f.e. a virus. So the vaccine against Sars-coV- 2 is a vaccine its motivates the body to build antibodys. You can accept it or not.
4. Would the vaccine not be approved, it would not get the permission to vaccine IT.
5. You and others gave links to sides/organisations/ people which are known for rightradicalism, fake Informations and conspiracy theories.
6. Nobody claimed that masks protect before the virus. BUT in combination with distance it reduces the ability to inhale the virus.
F.e. why masks are to wear during surgery, if it is useless?
7. According you then the people who got Sars-coV-2 should then die, rather then to get the vaccine.
 
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PC123, but this is only speculation. There is no proof that this will come in this way. And you cant count the situation of the USA to the rest of the world. The situation in every country is different. As I said in germany its present 0,0024 % of the vaccined.
And what is your alternative to vaccinate the people. Wait and see who will survife?
Given that no one is keeping score like they are with covid, it's a very fair extrapolation using the data we have. In Europe it's almost 20,000 reported deaths. It could be anywhere from 2 million deaths to over 20 million deaths worldwide that you are willing to ignore... Along with lockdown suicides and any other non covid related matter...

Add to the deaths the debilitating injuries and we have a dangerous experimental syringe that is being forced onto us against our will.

What do u say to the parents of a 20yo who dies from a vaccine after being told it was safe and effective with the manufacturer indemnified???
 
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