Is Obedience Necessary for Salvation?

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What does obedience look like to you?
Sharing the gospel message to the lost and the afraid, sharing all that Jesus taught, observing all Jesus commanded, having agape', joy, peace, goodness, kindness, gentleness, faithfulness, patient, self control.
 

John146

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Probably not even Christian, faith without work is dead
Imagine if Noah faith without work/build an arch, he will die drown under water because his faith is fake.
Noah real faith seen in his thousand hours of hard work.
For normal man faith must translate into good work not an option or his faith is fake
Lol, Noah was not a Christian. Anyway, I’m not justified by my faith, but the faith of Jesus Christ.
 

Jackson123

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Lol, Noah was not a Christian. Anyway, I’m not justified by my faith, but the faith of Jesus Christ.
Yep by your faith to Jesus, Noah by his faith to God
The main ting is faith
 
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Sharing the gospel message to the lost and the afraid, sharing all that Jesus taught, observing all Jesus commanded, having agape', joy, peace, goodness, kindness, gentleness, faithfulness, patient, self control.
Where do you find people who are lost and afraid?

With whom do you share what Jesus taught and what teachings do you share?

What commandments do you observe?

How do you have joy, peace, goodness, kindness, gentleness, faithfulness, patience, and self-control?

This looks like a copy and paste to me.
 
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Where do you find people who are lost and afraid?

With whom do you share what Jesus taught and what teachings do you share?

What commandments do you observe?

How do you have joy, peace, goodness, kindness, gentleness, faithfulness, patience, and self-control?

This looks like a copy and paste to me.
My statement is not cut and paste, but this is, and let me ask you:

Where do you find people who are lost and afraid?

With whom do you share what Jesus taught and what teachings do you share?

What commandments do you observe?

How do you have joy, peace, goodness, kindness, gentleness, faithfulness, patience, and self-control?

This looks like a copy and paste to me.
 
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My statement is not cut and paste, but this is, and let me ask you:

Where do you find people who are lost and afraid?

With whom do you share what Jesus taught and what teachings do you share?

What commandments do you observe?

How do you have joy, peace, goodness, kindness, gentleness, faithfulness, patience, and self-control?

This looks like a copy and paste to me.
Can you not answer my questions? Give it a try.
 
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Where do you find people who are lost and afraid?

With whom do you share what Jesus taught and what teachings do you share?

What commandments do you observe?

How do you have joy, peace, goodness, kindness, gentleness, faithfulness, patience, and self-control?

This looks like a copy and paste to me.
Where do you find people who are lost and afraid? Do you know the difference between the lost and the saved? Do you even share the gospel message with others face to face?

With whom do you share what Jesus taught and what teachings do you share? Or do you even share at all?

What commandments do you observe? Or do you observe any of His commands? If do, how do you observe them?

How do you have joy, peace, goodness, kindness, gentleness, faithfulness, patience, and self-control? Are you saved? Do you know that the fruit of the Holy Spirit manifests itself in the saved? Do you have any love, joy, peace, goodness, kindness, gentleness, patience, or self control in your life?

Why are you ignoring my questions?
 
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Where do you find people who are lost and afraid? Do you know the difference between the lost and the saved? Do you even share the gospel message with others face to face?

With whom do you share what Jesus taught and what teachings do you share? Or do you even share at all?

What commandments do you observe? Or do you observe any of His commands? If do, how do you observe them?

How do you have joy, peace, goodness, kindness, gentleness, faithfulness, patience, and self-control? Are you saved? Do you know that the fruit of the Holy Spirit manifests itself in the saved? Do you have any love, joy, peace, goodness, kindness, gentleness, patience, or self control in your life?

Why are you ignoring my questions?
So.... you cannot and will not answer my questions? I'm simply asking questions based on your idea of obedience. Obedience isn't just words.. so answer my questions.
 
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So.... you cannot and will not answer my questions? I'm simply asking questions based on your idea of obedience. Obedience isn't just words.. so answer my questions.
I will, but you first, if you can.
 
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Not irrelevant at all. You have a view that says the earth is flat, which puts you in the same category as someone with a disordered mind. It is relevant, as it goes toward understanding the direction from which you view other scripture.
 
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I will, but you first, if you can.
I didn't make the claims you did..they are not my questions to answer. They are yours. Do it or don't, but if you don't, you are just blowing hot air into the wind.
 
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Not irrelevant at all. You have a view that says the earth is flat, which puts you in the same category as someone with a disordered mind. It is relevant, as it goes toward understanding the direction from which you view other scripture.
Wrong again. I am absolutely and completely solid on the Word of God. If you are too afraid to answer, so be it. Be a wind-bag of nonsense.
 
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I didn't make the claims you did..they are not my questions to answer. They are yours. Do it or don't, but if you don't, you are just blowing hot air into the wind.
Funny, you claim to have been saved in 1984, and you have to ask how to share the gospel with the lost and afraid, how to obey the commands of Jesus, etc, etc, etc. You can't be serious that you've been following Jesus for 37 years and don't know these things.

First, I don't boast about what I do for the kingdom like some. Just know that what I do and how I do it is all for the glory of God. Secondly, Jesus told us to not let our left hand know what our right hand does, which means : keep it between you and God, all glory be to God.

Wake up!
 
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Wrong again. I am absolutely and completely solid on the Word of God. If you are too afraid to answer, so be it. Be a wind-bag of nonsense.
Flat earthers are unbiblical and downright weird.
 
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Funny, you claim to have been saved in 1984, and you have to ask how to share the gospel with the lost and afraid, how to obey the commands of Jesus, etc, etc, etc. You can't be serious that you've been following Jesus for 37 years and don't know these things.

First, I don't boast about what I do for the kingdom like some. Just know that what I do and how I do it is all for the glory of God. Secondly, Jesus told us to not let our left hand know what our right hand does, which means : keep it between you and God, all glory be to God.

Wake up!
I'm not asking you how to share the gospel. I'm not asking you anything but to explain your claims of how you obey the Lord.

And... clearly you cannot answer. So, why bother posting your original post?

I'm way more awake than you are.
 
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I'm not asking you how to share the gospel. I'm not asking you anything but to explain your claims of how you obey the Lord.

And... clearly you cannot answer. So, why bother posting your original post?

I'm way more awake than you are.
No, you're not awake if you believe in a flat earth. It's just plain weird - flat earthers, that is.
 
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Flat earthers are unbiblical and downright weird.
I get it. I truly do. To imagine we have been lied to on a world-wide scale for so long is unthinkable. Unimaginable. To horrific to even consider. And yet, here we are in 2021 with a world-wide deception. Not so hard to imagine now, is it? The children who are being taught all this scamdemic nonsense will grow up believe it is gospel. Of course they will. But they will be wrong. But nobody will be able to convince them otherwise once they are adults.. because .. how could that possibly happen?