As one of the Twelve Apostles of the Lamb in Revelation 21.Do you have a verse for that? I did a search of his name and only two mentions came up...
As one of the Twelve Apostles of the Lamb in Revelation 21.Do you have a verse for that? I did a search of his name and only two mentions came up...
Which verse? As I said, the sole two mentions I found were both in Acts 1, verses 23 and 26.As one of the Twelve Apostles of the Lamb in Revelation 21.
Typically missionaries are sent to plant churches according to the denomination of their home church. Apostles are sent by the Lord to expand the kingdom of God, explain mysteries, and establish elders.
If you consider Paul's epistles to be inspired, you should take note that Paul said that Jesus appeared to the TWELVE before appearing to Him. Since the gospels record that Judas hanged himself, how can you make that fit with the idea that Judas saw the resurrected Christ? According to the apostles in Acts 1, Matthias was a witness of the resurrection.I've been curious about rev 21:14 for a while. I believe the 12th name will be Paul. The reason has to do with the Great Commission.
In all the passages that mentions the GC, there were only the 11 present. And Paul was given the same commission. Acts 9:15.
And Paul saw the Lord. Not only that, he was taken up to the 3rd heaven and taught directly by the Lord.
And Paul became the most prolific apostle (evangelist) in history.
If Mathias has his name of one of the foundations, I will give refunds.![]()
2 mentions only of Matthias in the Bible, both in Acts 12, never to be heard of, about, or from again!
In fact, we heard nothing from him at all...
Pales terribly in comparison to Paul...
Proverbs 16:33I would say that he replaced Judas iskarioth.
Matthias election was based on the will of the Eleven, but not from God so far.
While Pauls call was from the Lord itself.
Which is why I asked this earlier:If you consider Paul's epistles to be inspired, you should take note that Paul said that Jesus appeared to the TWELVE before appearing to Him. Since the gospels record that Judas hanged himself, how can you make that fit with the idea that Judas saw the resurrected Christ? According to the apostles in Acts 1, Matthias was a witness of the resurrection.
Nor did I say any such thingWhen did Jesus say to wait to appoint a twelfth apostle? I am not familiar with any scripture that says that.
Wait for the promise, not to appoint a replacement for Judas.Nor did I say any such thingJesus simply instructed them to wait. It was actually a command
On one occasion, while He was eating with them, He gave them this command: "Do not leave
Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about."
Well, yes, they were commanded to waitWait for the promise, not to appoint a replacement for Judas.
1 Corinthians 4:1 "Let a man so consider us, as servants of Christ and stewards of the mysteries of God."Apostles are missionaries, they are doing the same. What you mean with " explain mysteries" ?
1st qualification: “men who have accompanied us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, beginning with the baptism of John”
2nd qualification; “..to that day when He was taken up from us…” So, he also had to witness Jesus’ ascension.
Well, yes, they were commanded to waitThere was no instruction to cast lots to replace Judas...
I don't think that witnessing Jesus' ascension is a prerequisite to apostleship. I think they are only describing what their experience was being with Jesus.
Seeing the resurrection Jesus is a pre-requisite for apostleship as far as I can tell. It doesn't mean being in the tomb with Jesus at the moment He resurrected because no one is said to have been in there with Him. It means seeing Jesus post-resurrection. Paul saw Jesus post-resurrection on the road to Damascus, just before he was temporarily blinded, and Paul was ordained by Jesus. This satisfies the requirement for apostleship.
You can’t just grab that verse and apply it to that particular lot, not every verse speak to every other verse that just happens to sound the same,Proverbs 16:33
The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the LORD.
(ESV)