Summary of Bible references on the Rapture
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No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:44
On the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink. John 7:37
The last day means the last day, not the last seven years.
Depends on the verse and the context. Some prophecies refer to the Lord's first coming.
Revelation 3:10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.
So do you understand this to mean the church in Philadelphia will be raptured prior to the tribulation?
Revelation 3:10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.
So do you understand this to mean the church in Philadelphia will be raptured prior to the tribulation?
Luke 21:36 But stay awake at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are going to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man.”
There are some believers who teach that this is not necessary because there is only one rapture, no one is going to escape all these things taking place.
Revelation 20:4 Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
Obviously those who were beheaded for the testimony of Jesus did not escape the tribulation, those who refused to worship the beast or its image and who did not receive its mark on their foreheads, they didn't escape the tribulation.
Revelation 3:10 Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth.
However, these did.
Revelation 3: 3 Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; hold it fast, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.
What is the point of this warning if everyone is going to be raptured at the same time?
Matthew 25:10 And while they were going to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast, and the door was shut. 11 Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, lord, open to us.’ 12 But he answered, ‘Truly, I say to you, I do not know you.’ 13 Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.
What is the point of this warning?
There are some believers who teach that this is not necessary because there is only one rapture, no one is going to escape all these things taking place.
Revelation 20:4 Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
Obviously those who were beheaded for the testimony of Jesus did not escape the tribulation, those who refused to worship the beast or its image and who did not receive its mark on their foreheads, they didn't escape the tribulation.
Revelation 3:10 Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth.
However, these did.
Revelation 3: 3 Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; hold it fast, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.
What is the point of this warning if everyone is going to be raptured at the same time?
Matthew 25:10 And while they were going to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast, and the door was shut. 11 Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, lord, open to us.’ 12 But he answered, ‘Truly, I say to you, I do not know you.’ 13 Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.
What is the point of this warning?
Jeremiah 25:12-37 Butchers drive sheep with fear to the slaughter
12 “But when the seventy years are fulfilled, I will punish the king of Babylon and his nation, the land of the Babylonians,[b] for their guilt,” declares the Lord, “and will make it desolate forever. 13 I will bring on that land all the things I have spoken against it, all that are written in this book and prophesied by Jeremiah against all the nations. 14 They themselves will be enslaved by many nations and great kings; I will repay them according to their deeds and the work of their hands.”
This word “fulfilled” means that there has been a full 70 years. So that would be January 24th of 2021. Once again, going back to our hypothesis that Babylon refers to the US they are saying the US will be enslaved by many nations (Europe, China, and Russia?). There is evidence that the pandemic was actually the first step in a war to incapacitate the US. There have been joint military maneuvers of China and Russia and there have been strict trade embargoes placed on both China and Russia which have pushed both countries to the brink of famine and social unrest. Europe just made a deal with China to work as partners with China picking up Europe’s debt. So it is possible that these three are already allied against the US. Also we had a massive cyber attack on the US which would be the second stage of an attack. In addition the election fraud appears to be an attack by China, Iran and our enemies to seize control of the US.
15 This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, said to me: “Take from my hand this cup filled with the wine of my wrath and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. 16 When they drink it, they will stagger and go mad because of the sword I will send among them.”
I hate to recount the hypocrisy and bald faced lies of the press that we are forced to drink and just make us mad. But for illustration purposes let's look at one example. When Jacob Blake was shot it provoked anger and riots. There was outrage at the police. The facts of the case were that there was a warrant for his arrest, he was resisting arrest, he was in violation of a court order to stay away from his girlfriend and he was potentially kidnapping his three children who were in the back seat. He had attacked police previously with a knife and was shot reaching for a knife. Still the reaction was to riot and loot and for the press to scream about police brutality. Compare that with January 6 where a woman who was trespassing in the capitol building was shot and killed. She did not have a criminal record, she did not have a weapon, and as far as has been reported she was not involved in violent behavior. But this time the outrage from the media was directed at her. Both Jacob Blake and this woman were in the wrong. We don’t like to see either person get shot or hurt but in both cases I can understand the police seeing the need to use deadly force. What I don’t understand is the incredible hypocrisy of the press. This woman, a veteran, was treated as something to scrape off of your shoe whereas Jacob Blake was treated like a martyr and a saint.
17 So I took the cup from the Lord’s hand and made all the nations to whom he sent me drink it:18 Jerusalem and the towns of Judah, its kings and officials, to make them a ruin and an object of horror and scorn, a curse—as they are today; 19 Pharaoh king of Egypt, his attendants, his officials and all his people, 20 and all the foreign people there; all the kings of Uz; all the kings of the Philistines (those of Ashkelon, Gaza, Ekron, and the people left at Ashdod); 21 Edom, Moab and Ammon; 22 all the kings of Tyre and Sidon; the kings of the coastlands across the sea; 23 Dedan, Tema, Buz and all who are in distant places; 24 all the kings of Arabia and all the kings of the foreign people who live in the wilderness;25 all the kings of Zimri, Elam and Media; 26 and all the kings of the north, near and far, one after the other—all the kingdoms on the face of the earth. And after all of them, the king of Sheshak will drink it too.
No way I want to try and figure out what each and everyone represents, only that what happens to the US will affect the entire world. We are already seeing massive censorship from Tech giants like Twitter, Facebook, and Youtube. There is a reason we call these corporations "multinational".
27 “Then tell them, ‘This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: Drink, get drunk and vomit, and fall to rise no more because of the sword I will send among you.’ 28 But if they refuse to take the cup from your hand and drink, tell them, ‘This is what the Lord Almighty says: You must drink it! 29 See, I am beginning to bring disaster on the city that bears my Name, and will you indeed go unpunished? You will not go unpunished, for I am calling down a sword on all who live on the earth, declares the Lord Almighty.’
There are a lot of people who are resisting the censorship. But they will be forced to drink this swill. What has happened this week has been called Orwellian. The way in which China monitors its populace is certainly Orwellian. But taking control of the media is a third step in a war, you want to control the flow of information. What you are seeing is the Lord Almighty beginning to bring disaster on the city that bears His name. Once again this is about Jerusalem and the disaster will ultimately end up there. However, since the Mayflower compact the US was consecrated as a city on the hill, a light to the nations, the New Jerusalem. So I see references to Jerusalem are at times a reference to Washington DC, rather than Jerusalem in Israel.
30 “Now prophesy all these words against them and say to them: “‘The Lord will roar from on high; he will thunder from his holy dwelling and roar mightily against his land. He will shout like those who tread the grapes, shout against all who live on the earth. 31 The tumult will resound to the ends of the earth, for the Lord will bring charges against the nations; he will bring judgment on all mankind and put the wicked to the sword,’” declares the Lord.
A description of the Great Tribulation.
32 This is what the Lord Almighty says: “Look! Disaster is spreading from nation to nation; a mighty storm is rising from the ends of the earth.” 33 At that time those slain by the Lord will be everywhere—from one end of the earth to the other. They will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.
I learned during the mortgage meltdown the extent to which they would lie. All of the indicators showed that the mortgage backed securities were worthless and should collapse and yet on paper they were still highly rated and “trading” at a high price. However, if you tried to short them you would not be allowed to so everyone knew they were going to collapse, they were just hoping to sell a few more to the unwitting public. It is the same today. The stock market is still high even though the economic devastation worldwide has been unprecedented. On top of the pandemic, and the looming economic collapse we have natural disasters that threaten to be truly Biblical in scale. I know this term has been used frequently in 2020 but the catastrophe that is about to happen is so great that in an hour the entire situation worldwide will change.
34 Weep and wail, you shepherds; roll in the dust, you leaders of the flock. For your time to be slaughtered has come; you will fall like the best of the rams. 35 The shepherds will have nowhere to flee, the leaders of the flock no place to escape. 36 Hear the cry of the shepherds, the wailing of the leaders of the flock, for the Lord is destroying their pasture. 37 The peaceful meadows will be laid waste because of the fierce anger of the Lord.
The Pandemic has been especially hard on churches that have shut down. They are being destroyed and you can hear the pastors wailing about the loss of offerings that has bankrupted them. Now consider that you are a pastor of a church that made excuses for why we no longer needed to listen to the Lord’s word. In place after place you made compromises with Jezebel and the prophets of Baal. The rapture comes and you and your flock are left behind. There will be no place for you to hide. The time of your slaughter will have come. Finally let’s consider one other thing, the Lord said “my sheep hear my voice” and they follow Him. Sheep follow shepherds because they hear the Lord’s voice. But butchers drive sheep with fear. They don’t know the butcher so they run from them and are driven by fear to the slaughter. Do you hear the Lord’s voice? Or are you running in fear from the butcher towards your slaughter?
12 “But when the seventy years are fulfilled, I will punish the king of Babylon and his nation, the land of the Babylonians,[b] for their guilt,” declares the Lord, “and will make it desolate forever. 13 I will bring on that land all the things I have spoken against it, all that are written in this book and prophesied by Jeremiah against all the nations. 14 They themselves will be enslaved by many nations and great kings; I will repay them according to their deeds and the work of their hands.”
This word “fulfilled” means that there has been a full 70 years. So that would be January 24th of 2021. Once again, going back to our hypothesis that Babylon refers to the US they are saying the US will be enslaved by many nations (Europe, China, and Russia?). There is evidence that the pandemic was actually the first step in a war to incapacitate the US. There have been joint military maneuvers of China and Russia and there have been strict trade embargoes placed on both China and Russia which have pushed both countries to the brink of famine and social unrest. Europe just made a deal with China to work as partners with China picking up Europe’s debt. So it is possible that these three are already allied against the US. Also we had a massive cyber attack on the US which would be the second stage of an attack. In addition the election fraud appears to be an attack by China, Iran and our enemies to seize control of the US.
15 This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, said to me: “Take from my hand this cup filled with the wine of my wrath and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. 16 When they drink it, they will stagger and go mad because of the sword I will send among them.”
I hate to recount the hypocrisy and bald faced lies of the press that we are forced to drink and just make us mad. But for illustration purposes let's look at one example. When Jacob Blake was shot it provoked anger and riots. There was outrage at the police. The facts of the case were that there was a warrant for his arrest, he was resisting arrest, he was in violation of a court order to stay away from his girlfriend and he was potentially kidnapping his three children who were in the back seat. He had attacked police previously with a knife and was shot reaching for a knife. Still the reaction was to riot and loot and for the press to scream about police brutality. Compare that with January 6 where a woman who was trespassing in the capitol building was shot and killed. She did not have a criminal record, she did not have a weapon, and as far as has been reported she was not involved in violent behavior. But this time the outrage from the media was directed at her. Both Jacob Blake and this woman were in the wrong. We don’t like to see either person get shot or hurt but in both cases I can understand the police seeing the need to use deadly force. What I don’t understand is the incredible hypocrisy of the press. This woman, a veteran, was treated as something to scrape off of your shoe whereas Jacob Blake was treated like a martyr and a saint.
17 So I took the cup from the Lord’s hand and made all the nations to whom he sent me drink it:18 Jerusalem and the towns of Judah, its kings and officials, to make them a ruin and an object of horror and scorn, a curse—as they are today; 19 Pharaoh king of Egypt, his attendants, his officials and all his people, 20 and all the foreign people there; all the kings of Uz; all the kings of the Philistines (those of Ashkelon, Gaza, Ekron, and the people left at Ashdod); 21 Edom, Moab and Ammon; 22 all the kings of Tyre and Sidon; the kings of the coastlands across the sea; 23 Dedan, Tema, Buz and all who are in distant places; 24 all the kings of Arabia and all the kings of the foreign people who live in the wilderness;25 all the kings of Zimri, Elam and Media; 26 and all the kings of the north, near and far, one after the other—all the kingdoms on the face of the earth. And after all of them, the king of Sheshak will drink it too.
No way I want to try and figure out what each and everyone represents, only that what happens to the US will affect the entire world. We are already seeing massive censorship from Tech giants like Twitter, Facebook, and Youtube. There is a reason we call these corporations "multinational".
27 “Then tell them, ‘This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: Drink, get drunk and vomit, and fall to rise no more because of the sword I will send among you.’ 28 But if they refuse to take the cup from your hand and drink, tell them, ‘This is what the Lord Almighty says: You must drink it! 29 See, I am beginning to bring disaster on the city that bears my Name, and will you indeed go unpunished? You will not go unpunished, for I am calling down a sword on all who live on the earth, declares the Lord Almighty.’
There are a lot of people who are resisting the censorship. But they will be forced to drink this swill. What has happened this week has been called Orwellian. The way in which China monitors its populace is certainly Orwellian. But taking control of the media is a third step in a war, you want to control the flow of information. What you are seeing is the Lord Almighty beginning to bring disaster on the city that bears His name. Once again this is about Jerusalem and the disaster will ultimately end up there. However, since the Mayflower compact the US was consecrated as a city on the hill, a light to the nations, the New Jerusalem. So I see references to Jerusalem are at times a reference to Washington DC, rather than Jerusalem in Israel.
30 “Now prophesy all these words against them and say to them: “‘The Lord will roar from on high; he will thunder from his holy dwelling and roar mightily against his land. He will shout like those who tread the grapes, shout against all who live on the earth. 31 The tumult will resound to the ends of the earth, for the Lord will bring charges against the nations; he will bring judgment on all mankind and put the wicked to the sword,’” declares the Lord.
A description of the Great Tribulation.
32 This is what the Lord Almighty says: “Look! Disaster is spreading from nation to nation; a mighty storm is rising from the ends of the earth.” 33 At that time those slain by the Lord will be everywhere—from one end of the earth to the other. They will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.
I learned during the mortgage meltdown the extent to which they would lie. All of the indicators showed that the mortgage backed securities were worthless and should collapse and yet on paper they were still highly rated and “trading” at a high price. However, if you tried to short them you would not be allowed to so everyone knew they were going to collapse, they were just hoping to sell a few more to the unwitting public. It is the same today. The stock market is still high even though the economic devastation worldwide has been unprecedented. On top of the pandemic, and the looming economic collapse we have natural disasters that threaten to be truly Biblical in scale. I know this term has been used frequently in 2020 but the catastrophe that is about to happen is so great that in an hour the entire situation worldwide will change.
34 Weep and wail, you shepherds; roll in the dust, you leaders of the flock. For your time to be slaughtered has come; you will fall like the best of the rams. 35 The shepherds will have nowhere to flee, the leaders of the flock no place to escape. 36 Hear the cry of the shepherds, the wailing of the leaders of the flock, for the Lord is destroying their pasture. 37 The peaceful meadows will be laid waste because of the fierce anger of the Lord.
The Pandemic has been especially hard on churches that have shut down. They are being destroyed and you can hear the pastors wailing about the loss of offerings that has bankrupted them. Now consider that you are a pastor of a church that made excuses for why we no longer needed to listen to the Lord’s word. In place after place you made compromises with Jezebel and the prophets of Baal. The rapture comes and you and your flock are left behind. There will be no place for you to hide. The time of your slaughter will have come. Finally let’s consider one other thing, the Lord said “my sheep hear my voice” and they follow Him. Sheep follow shepherds because they hear the Lord’s voice. But butchers drive sheep with fear. They don’t know the butcher so they run from them and are driven by fear to the slaughter. Do you hear the Lord’s voice? Or are you running in fear from the butcher towards your slaughter?
Mark 8:1-13 Another large crowd
1 During those days another large crowd gathered. Since they had nothing to eat, Jesus called his disciples to him and said, 2 “I have compassion for these people; they have already been with me three days and have nothing to eat. 3 If I send them home hungry, they will collapse on the way, because some of them have come a long distance.”
4 His disciples answered, “But where in this remote place can anyone get enough bread to feed them?”
5 “How many loaves do you have?” Jesus asked.
“Seven,” they replied.
6 He told the crowd to sit down on the ground. When he had taken the seven loaves and given thanks, he broke them and gave them to his disciples to distribute to the people, and they did so. 7 They had a few small fish as well; he gave thanks for them also and told the disciples to distribute them. 8 The people ate and were satisfied. Afterward the disciples picked up seven basketfuls of broken pieces that were left over. 9 About four thousand were present. After he had sent them away, 10 he got into the boat with his disciples and went to the region of Dalmanutha.
11 The Pharisees came and began to question Jesus. To test him, they asked him for a sign from heaven. 12 He sighed deeply and said, “Why does this generation ask for a sign? Truly I tell you, no sign will be given to it.” 13 Then he left them, got back into the boat and crossed to the other side.
We saw that the rapture will result in a revival with the Lord feeding 5,000. The Mark of the Beast will also drive people to the Lord in another revival. They will come from a long way without anything to eat, why, they know it is the antichrist, the tribulation, and the mark of the beast. In the last chapter we see that we need the faith to not worry about being called a dog, or the lowest of the low, or a “deplorable”. Second we need our ears and tongue loosed so that we can hear clearly and spit out the truth. Once people hear this word they will flee to the Lord.
1 During those days another large crowd gathered. Since they had nothing to eat, Jesus called his disciples to him and said, 2 “I have compassion for these people; they have already been with me three days and have nothing to eat. 3 If I send them home hungry, they will collapse on the way, because some of them have come a long distance.”
4 His disciples answered, “But where in this remote place can anyone get enough bread to feed them?”
5 “How many loaves do you have?” Jesus asked.
“Seven,” they replied.
6 He told the crowd to sit down on the ground. When he had taken the seven loaves and given thanks, he broke them and gave them to his disciples to distribute to the people, and they did so. 7 They had a few small fish as well; he gave thanks for them also and told the disciples to distribute them. 8 The people ate and were satisfied. Afterward the disciples picked up seven basketfuls of broken pieces that were left over. 9 About four thousand were present. After he had sent them away, 10 he got into the boat with his disciples and went to the region of Dalmanutha.
11 The Pharisees came and began to question Jesus. To test him, they asked him for a sign from heaven. 12 He sighed deeply and said, “Why does this generation ask for a sign? Truly I tell you, no sign will be given to it.” 13 Then he left them, got back into the boat and crossed to the other side.
We saw that the rapture will result in a revival with the Lord feeding 5,000. The Mark of the Beast will also drive people to the Lord in another revival. They will come from a long way without anything to eat, why, they know it is the antichrist, the tribulation, and the mark of the beast. In the last chapter we see that we need the faith to not worry about being called a dog, or the lowest of the low, or a “deplorable”. Second we need our ears and tongue loosed so that we can hear clearly and spit out the truth. Once people hear this word they will flee to the Lord.
If the sky is red at night it indicates this is the end of your day, you are mourning the death of Jesus or the horrible situation. Therefore in the next day, the millenial kingdom, you will have peace.
On the other hand if the death of Jesus was the beginning of your day, the sun rising on your day, then you will reap what you sow. What we are seeing now is the reaping for this entire evil age.
We are discussing the verse I quoted.
- that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.
But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
Do you understand this verse I quoted from 1 Thessalonians 4:15, concerning the resurrection and rapture, refers to His second coming?
JLB
Jeremiah 25:38 The first rapture
38 Like a lion he will leave his lair, and their land will become desolate because of the sword of the oppressor and because of the Lord’s fierce anger.
On the one hand the first rapture is likened to a bridegroom coming for His bride, but what about the foolish virgins who are locked out of the feast? On one hand it is likened to reaping the harvest to the barn, but what about the crops that are not ripe yet? On one hand it is likened to the Lord returning from a long journey to settle accounts, but what about those Christians who buried their talent? The rapture is likened to both Noah being rescued and Lot being rescued. Noah is in Hebrews chapter 11, Faith's hall of fame, as a "preacher of righteousness". Lot is not in Hebrews chapter 11, he is called "a righteous man". Even though he was righteous he buried his talent, kept his mouth shut, didn't make waves. We see this in Genesis when they treat him with scorn "who are you to tell us what to do?" Hey, if you were a man of God you would have been taken in the first rapture, God doesn't want you, why should we listen to you.
On the one hand it is the sword of the oppressor, or the totalitarian regime. They hate the church, everyone needs to worship them, listen to them. They are completely against free thought or free speech. People are treated like dumb beasts of burden who work to build up their kingdom until they can’t and then they are killed. Look at the numbers of those killed by this pandemic closely, it is almost exclusively the elderly and the infirm. Those that are costing the State money. Their death has saved the state money in healthcare costs and pension costs. Secondly it's because of the Lord’s fierce anger. You rejected His word. You rejected His warnings.
38 Like a lion he will leave his lair, and their land will become desolate because of the sword of the oppressor and because of the Lord’s fierce anger.
On the one hand the first rapture is likened to a bridegroom coming for His bride, but what about the foolish virgins who are locked out of the feast? On one hand it is likened to reaping the harvest to the barn, but what about the crops that are not ripe yet? On one hand it is likened to the Lord returning from a long journey to settle accounts, but what about those Christians who buried their talent? The rapture is likened to both Noah being rescued and Lot being rescued. Noah is in Hebrews chapter 11, Faith's hall of fame, as a "preacher of righteousness". Lot is not in Hebrews chapter 11, he is called "a righteous man". Even though he was righteous he buried his talent, kept his mouth shut, didn't make waves. We see this in Genesis when they treat him with scorn "who are you to tell us what to do?" Hey, if you were a man of God you would have been taken in the first rapture, God doesn't want you, why should we listen to you.
On the one hand it is the sword of the oppressor, or the totalitarian regime. They hate the church, everyone needs to worship them, listen to them. They are completely against free thought or free speech. People are treated like dumb beasts of burden who work to build up their kingdom until they can’t and then they are killed. Look at the numbers of those killed by this pandemic closely, it is almost exclusively the elderly and the infirm. Those that are costing the State money. Their death has saved the state money in healthcare costs and pension costs. Secondly it's because of the Lord’s fierce anger. You rejected His word. You rejected His warnings.
Luke 9:28 About eight days after Jesus said this, he took Peter, John and James with him and went up onto a mountain to pray.
This verse is a really big deal when talking about the rapture. In both Matthew and Mark it is six days after that Jesus goes up the Mount of Transfiguration, but here Luke says "about eight days". This has to be significant.
There are three things that happens on the eighth day in Luke: John the Baptist is presented to God, Jesus is presented to God, and the mount of Transfiguration.
We need to view the rapture as Jesus presenting "the firstborn" or the firstfruits of His ministry to God.
This is 8 days after they are born, and since we know it is actually 6 days from this conversation we need to look 1-2 days earlier to see "the birth". The 12 had gone out preaching and casting out demons, they came back to share their experiences, share their testimonies, a large crowd followed them, and they fed 5,000. We have evangelism, apostles, prophets and teachers all in this picture ministering to the people. This is a picture of the church being born in typology. Obviously the church was born on Pentecost, but this is a picture of it in the gospels. So the 8 days later is Jesus presenting the firstborn to God, the firstfruits, that is why this is a picture of the first rapture. The Lord did not take everyone, and we also see "the sleeping church" in this picture.
So then if a baby was born and you needed to present Him to God on the eighth day and about two days after the birth you had a very significant conversation it would be true that six days after that you presented the baby and it would also be true that it was on the eighth day from their birth, and therefore you can say it was "about eight days after Jesus said this". Why do you want to combine the two? When the baby is eight days he is circumcised. Look at what Jesus said about going to the cross, that is our circumcision according to the book of Galatians. Not only so, but why take those three? Peter was the one with the revelation that Jesus was the Christ, the Son of God.
Galatians 1:15 But when God, who set me apart from my mother’s womb and called me by his grace, was pleased 16 to reveal his Son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles, my immediate response was not to consult any human being. 17 I did not go up to Jerusalem to see those who were apostles before I was, but I went into Arabia. Later I returned to Damascus.
Two things are here: set apart from my mother's womb and revealed His Son in me.
This verse is a really big deal when talking about the rapture. In both Matthew and Mark it is six days after that Jesus goes up the Mount of Transfiguration, but here Luke says "about eight days". This has to be significant.
There are three things that happens on the eighth day in Luke: John the Baptist is presented to God, Jesus is presented to God, and the mount of Transfiguration.
We need to view the rapture as Jesus presenting "the firstborn" or the firstfruits of His ministry to God.
This is 8 days after they are born, and since we know it is actually 6 days from this conversation we need to look 1-2 days earlier to see "the birth". The 12 had gone out preaching and casting out demons, they came back to share their experiences, share their testimonies, a large crowd followed them, and they fed 5,000. We have evangelism, apostles, prophets and teachers all in this picture ministering to the people. This is a picture of the church being born in typology. Obviously the church was born on Pentecost, but this is a picture of it in the gospels. So the 8 days later is Jesus presenting the firstborn to God, the firstfruits, that is why this is a picture of the first rapture. The Lord did not take everyone, and we also see "the sleeping church" in this picture.
So then if a baby was born and you needed to present Him to God on the eighth day and about two days after the birth you had a very significant conversation it would be true that six days after that you presented the baby and it would also be true that it was on the eighth day from their birth, and therefore you can say it was "about eight days after Jesus said this". Why do you want to combine the two? When the baby is eight days he is circumcised. Look at what Jesus said about going to the cross, that is our circumcision according to the book of Galatians. Not only so, but why take those three? Peter was the one with the revelation that Jesus was the Christ, the Son of God.
Galatians 1:15 But when God, who set me apart from my mother’s womb and called me by his grace, was pleased 16 to reveal his Son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles, my immediate response was not to consult any human being. 17 I did not go up to Jerusalem to see those who were apostles before I was, but I went into Arabia. Later I returned to Damascus.
Two things are here: set apart from my mother's womb and revealed His Son in me.
Lepers and the rapture
Leviticus 13:45 “Anyone with such a defiling disease must wear torn clothes, let their hair be unkempt,[c] cover the lower part of their face and cry out, ‘Unclean! Unclean!’ 46 As long as they have the disease they remain unclean. They must live alone; they must live outside the camp.
Leviticus 14 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “These are the regulations for any diseased person at the time of their ceremonial cleansing, when they are brought to the priest: 3 The priest is to go outside the camp and examine them. If they have been healed of their defiling skin disease, 4 the priest shall order that two live clean birds and some cedar wood, scarlet yarn and hyssop be brought for the person to be cleansed. 5 Then the priest shall order that one of the birds be killed over fresh water in a clay pot. 6 He is then to take the live bird and dip it, together with the cedar wood, the scarlet yarn and the hyssop, into the blood of the bird that was killed over the fresh water. 7 Seven times he shall sprinkle the one to be cleansed of the defiling disease, and then pronounce them clean. After that, he is to release the live bird in the open fields.
We are all lepers cleansed by the Lord's blood. Hyssop was the little shrub that was used to wipe the blood on the doorposts during Passover. It signifies our weak faith. The yarn signifies our clothes which are the "righteousnesses of the saints". We need all our deeds to be washed in the blood. The cedar wood signifies our human nature. Not only all that we do but also all that we are needs to be washed in the blood. If this is the case then we will fly away, that is we will be raptured.
But what about those Christians for whom this is not the case? During the Tribulation the mark of the beast will cause them to be outcasts. They will wear torn clothes, they will be unkempt, they will wear a face mask covering the lower part of the face, and they will cry out "unclean! unclean!". They didn't choose to go outside the camp willingly but the Lord will give them a second chance.
Leviticus 13:45 “Anyone with such a defiling disease must wear torn clothes, let their hair be unkempt,[c] cover the lower part of their face and cry out, ‘Unclean! Unclean!’ 46 As long as they have the disease they remain unclean. They must live alone; they must live outside the camp.
Leviticus 14 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “These are the regulations for any diseased person at the time of their ceremonial cleansing, when they are brought to the priest: 3 The priest is to go outside the camp and examine them. If they have been healed of their defiling skin disease, 4 the priest shall order that two live clean birds and some cedar wood, scarlet yarn and hyssop be brought for the person to be cleansed. 5 Then the priest shall order that one of the birds be killed over fresh water in a clay pot. 6 He is then to take the live bird and dip it, together with the cedar wood, the scarlet yarn and the hyssop, into the blood of the bird that was killed over the fresh water. 7 Seven times he shall sprinkle the one to be cleansed of the defiling disease, and then pronounce them clean. After that, he is to release the live bird in the open fields.
We are all lepers cleansed by the Lord's blood. Hyssop was the little shrub that was used to wipe the blood on the doorposts during Passover. It signifies our weak faith. The yarn signifies our clothes which are the "righteousnesses of the saints". We need all our deeds to be washed in the blood. The cedar wood signifies our human nature. Not only all that we do but also all that we are needs to be washed in the blood. If this is the case then we will fly away, that is we will be raptured.
But what about those Christians for whom this is not the case? During the Tribulation the mark of the beast will cause them to be outcasts. They will wear torn clothes, they will be unkempt, they will wear a face mask covering the lower part of the face, and they will cry out "unclean! unclean!". They didn't choose to go outside the camp willingly but the Lord will give them a second chance.