Can one repent at the Judgement or after death?
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Well, then apparently you forgot to read Romans 14. If you have read and still believe this nonsense that people are going to have a chance to be saved at judgement, then you must believe everyone will be saved...which is totally false!
Romans 14
10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
At judgement, every knee will bow and confess to God. They will still be judged.
There is no getting around that. Stop spreading false hope or you could be the cause of people being misled. It is a dangerous lie from the devil.
Romans 14
10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
At judgement, every knee will bow and confess to God. They will still be judged.
There is no getting around that. Stop spreading false hope or you could be the cause of people being misled. It is a dangerous lie from the devil.
It's simple...the only way to God is through Jesus Christ...God gives everyone a chance to accept Him...whosoever believes in him will be saved...but whosoever don't will be damned.
Who are you to question God's judgement?
He is a loving God and his judgements are just.
I mean...it is what it is!
Who are you to question God's judgement?
He is a loving God and his judgements are just.
I mean...it is what it is!
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That's your opinion.
You are welcome to it.
Now here is the reality..
What a person Believes, regarding their understanding of the NT, or lack of it, along with the Denomination that has created their theology is who they are, as a "type" of Believer.
So, if you are a Catholic, or a Baptist, or a JW or a Mormon, this is because you BELIEVE what this denomination teaches.
This defines your theology, which defines your religious type.
So, the insult is not to be defined, the insult is if what you believe insults the Cross or NT Doctrine., as THERE is the problem found.
You are welcome to it.
Now here is the reality..
What a person Believes, regarding their understanding of the NT, or lack of it, along with the Denomination that has created their theology is who they are, as a "type" of Believer.
So, if you are a Catholic, or a Baptist, or a JW or a Mormon, this is because you BELIEVE what this denomination teaches.
This defines your theology, which defines your religious type.
So, the insult is not to be defined, the insult is if what you believe insults the Cross or NT Doctrine., as THERE is the problem found.
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lol...You didn't even get the point I was making? I never said you were judging anyone
Yeah, the scripture is telling us not to judge others. But it also states the fact that everyone is going to kneel and confess to God on Judgement day. If your theory that people will have a chance to repent on judgment day was correct then that would mean EVERYONE would be saved.
We know everyone is not going to be saved, though.
Yeah, the scripture is telling us not to judge others. But it also states the fact that everyone is going to kneel and confess to God on Judgement day. If your theory that people will have a chance to repent on judgment day was correct then that would mean EVERYONE would be saved.
We know everyone is not going to be saved, though.
So, how do these verses relate?
Job 10:21, 22, 17:16, 38:17; Isa 38:10; Psa 9:14, Eze 32; Isa 14; Job 30:23, Gen. 37:35, 42:38; Eze 32:27; Isa 14:9, 26:14; Psa 88, Amos 9:2; Hos 13:14; Deut 32:22; I Sam 2:6; Isa 7:11; Prov 15:11, I Sam 28:3, II Sam 22:6; Psa 18:5-6; Psa 116:3
Job 10:21
Easy-to-Read Version
21 I am going soon to the land of no return,
the place of death and darkness—
Job 38:17
Easy-to-Read Version
17 Has anyone shown you the gates to the world of the dead?
Have you ever seen those gates that lead to the dark place of death?
Isaiah 14
Easy-to-Read Version
4 At that time you will begin to sing this song about the king of Babylon:
The king was cruel when he ruled us,
but now his rule is finished.
5 The Lord breaks the scepter of evil rulers;
he takes away their power.
6 In anger, the king of Babylon beat the people.
He never stopped beating them.
He was an evil ruler who ruled in anger.
He never stopped hurting people.
7 But now, the whole country rests and is quiet.
Now the people begin to celebrate.
8 You were an evil king,
and now you are finished.
Even the pine trees are happy.
The cedar trees of Lebanon rejoice.
They say, “The king chopped us down,
but now the king has fallen,
and he will never stand again.”
9 The place of death is excited
that you are coming.
Sheol is waking the spirits
of all the leaders of the earth for you.
Sheol is making the kings stand up
from their thrones to meet you.
10 They will make fun of you, saying,
“Now you are as dead as we are.
Now you are just like us.”
11 Your pride has been sent down to Sheol.
The music from your harps announces the coming of your proud spirit.
Maggots will be the bed you lie on,
and other worms will cover your body like a blanket.
Job 30:23
Easy-to-Read Version
23 I know you will lead me to my death,
to that place where all the living must go.
Genesis 42:38
Easy-to-Read Version
38 But Jacob said, “I will not let Benjamin go with you. His brother is dead, and he is the only son left from my wife Rachel. It would kill me if anything happened to him during the trip to Egypt. You would send me to the grave[a] a very sad, old man.”
Isaiah 14:9
Easy-to-Read Version
9 The place of death is excited
that you are coming.
Sheol is waking the spirits
of all the leaders of the earth for you.
Sheol is making the kings stand up
from their thrones to meet you.
Isaiah 26:14
Easy-to-Read Version
14 Those dead lords will not come to life.
Those ghosts will not rise from death.
You decided to destroy them,
and you destroyed everything that makes us think about them.
Hosea 13:14
Easy-to-Read Version
14 “I will save them from the grave.
I will rescue them from death.
Death, where are your diseases?
Grave, where is your power?
I am not looking for revenge.
Proverbs 15:11
Easy-to-Read Version
11 The Lord knows everything, even what happens in the place of death. So surely he knows what people are thinking.
2 Samuel 22:6
Easy-to-Read Version
6 The ropes of the grave wrapped around me.
Death set its trap right there in front of me.
Psalm 18:5-6
Easy-to-Read Version
5 The ropes of the grave wrapped around me.
Death set its trap right there in front of me.
6 In my trouble I called to the Lord.
Yes, I cried out to my God for help.
There in his temple he heard my voice.
He heard my cry for help.
Isaiah 8:19
The people will say, “Go to the fortunetellers and wizards who mumble and chirp like birds. Ask them what to do.” But I say, “Shouldn’t people go to their God for help? Why go to the dead to get help for the living?”
Matthew 22:32
God said, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’ So they were not still dead, because he is the God only of living people.”
Job 10:21, 22, 17:16, 38:17; Isa 38:10; Psa 9:14, Eze 32; Isa 14; Job 30:23, Gen. 37:35, 42:38; Eze 32:27; Isa 14:9, 26:14; Psa 88, Amos 9:2; Hos 13:14; Deut 32:22; I Sam 2:6; Isa 7:11; Prov 15:11, I Sam 28:3, II Sam 22:6; Psa 18:5-6; Psa 116:3
Job 10:21
Easy-to-Read Version
21 I am going soon to the land of no return,
the place of death and darkness—
Job 38:17
Easy-to-Read Version
17 Has anyone shown you the gates to the world of the dead?
Have you ever seen those gates that lead to the dark place of death?
Isaiah 14
Easy-to-Read Version
4 At that time you will begin to sing this song about the king of Babylon:
The king was cruel when he ruled us,
but now his rule is finished.
5 The Lord breaks the scepter of evil rulers;
he takes away their power.
6 In anger, the king of Babylon beat the people.
He never stopped beating them.
He was an evil ruler who ruled in anger.
He never stopped hurting people.
7 But now, the whole country rests and is quiet.
Now the people begin to celebrate.
8 You were an evil king,
and now you are finished.
Even the pine trees are happy.
The cedar trees of Lebanon rejoice.
They say, “The king chopped us down,
but now the king has fallen,
and he will never stand again.”
9 The place of death is excited
that you are coming.
Sheol is waking the spirits
of all the leaders of the earth for you.
Sheol is making the kings stand up
from their thrones to meet you.
10 They will make fun of you, saying,
“Now you are as dead as we are.
Now you are just like us.”
11 Your pride has been sent down to Sheol.
The music from your harps announces the coming of your proud spirit.
Maggots will be the bed you lie on,
and other worms will cover your body like a blanket.
Job 30:23
Easy-to-Read Version
23 I know you will lead me to my death,
to that place where all the living must go.
Genesis 42:38
Easy-to-Read Version
38 But Jacob said, “I will not let Benjamin go with you. His brother is dead, and he is the only son left from my wife Rachel. It would kill me if anything happened to him during the trip to Egypt. You would send me to the grave[a] a very sad, old man.”
Isaiah 14:9
Easy-to-Read Version
9 The place of death is excited
that you are coming.
Sheol is waking the spirits
of all the leaders of the earth for you.
Sheol is making the kings stand up
from their thrones to meet you.
Isaiah 26:14
Easy-to-Read Version
14 Those dead lords will not come to life.
Those ghosts will not rise from death.
You decided to destroy them,
and you destroyed everything that makes us think about them.
Hosea 13:14
Easy-to-Read Version
14 “I will save them from the grave.
I will rescue them from death.
Death, where are your diseases?
Grave, where is your power?
I am not looking for revenge.
Proverbs 15:11
Easy-to-Read Version
11 The Lord knows everything, even what happens in the place of death. So surely he knows what people are thinking.
2 Samuel 22:6
Easy-to-Read Version
6 The ropes of the grave wrapped around me.
Death set its trap right there in front of me.
Psalm 18:5-6
Easy-to-Read Version
5 The ropes of the grave wrapped around me.
Death set its trap right there in front of me.
6 In my trouble I called to the Lord.
Yes, I cried out to my God for help.
There in his temple he heard my voice.
He heard my cry for help.
Isaiah 8:19
The people will say, “Go to the fortunetellers and wizards who mumble and chirp like birds. Ask them what to do.” But I say, “Shouldn’t people go to their God for help? Why go to the dead to get help for the living?”
Matthew 22:32
God said, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’ So they were not still dead, because he is the God only of living people.”
lol...You didn't even get the point I was making? I never said you were judging anyone
Yeah, the scripture is telling us not to judge others. But it also states the fact that everyone is going to kneel and confess to God on Judgement day. If your theory that people will have a chance to repent on judgment day was correct then that would mean EVERYONE would be saved.
We know everyone is not going to be saved, though.
Yeah, the scripture is telling us not to judge others. But it also states the fact that everyone is going to kneel and confess to God on Judgement day. If your theory that people will have a chance to repent on judgment day was correct then that would mean EVERYONE would be saved.
We know everyone is not going to be saved, though.
Romans 14:11
For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
Philippians 2:11
And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.