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ZNP

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It's unfortunate the dire situation that we are in. When we acknowledge that we are In a very real Spiritual WAR, that is designed around Irregular Warfare tactics and Information Warfare techniques it helps us to understand - that in this type of warfare - THEY have been LYING to US and the WORLD all along... When you accept the consequences, stakes, and implications of doing whatever it takes to protect your family, loved ones, home, neighborhood, town, city and country than it becomes easier to understand the significance of being able to do whatever it takes to survive, to live to continue to fight evil another day...

In Military Operations - this is simply understood as the Art of War... where the element of Surprise (for tactical advantage) often is best performed with the support of Deception Operations...

In Athletics deception strategies, game plans and plays all factor into players, coaches and managers schemes to win the game... This is about winning the game of LIFE - by playing by THEIR RULES... They are lying and deceiving the World...

I don't have any problem if quitting a job happens to be the best strategy for some as a practical means of survival ... ie as a means to possibly re-unite and/or re-join family and friends in a safer place...

I do find it interesting (even concerning) that you can come on here with a 'secure job' and tell people how easy it is to simply to quit their jobs and their lives and start new jobs and lives somewhere else...
This is righteous judgement. They rejected the Lord in schools, they trusted these fleshly, worldly people to raise their kids and said they didn't want the word of God in schools. Well, the poison has created the monsters you now see running the country.
 
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It's unfortunate the dire situation that we are in. When we acknowledge that we are In a very real Spiritual WAR, that is designed around Irregular Warfare tactics and Information Warfare techniques it helps us to understand - that in this type of warfare - THEY have been LYING to US and the WORLD all along... When you accept the consequences, stakes, and implications of doing whatever it takes to protect your family, loved ones, home, neighborhood, town, city and country than it becomes easier to understand the significance of being able to do whatever it takes to survive, to live to continue to fight evil another day...

In Military Operations - this is simply understood as the Art of War... where the element of Surprise (for tactical advantage) often is best performed with the support of Deception Operations...

In Athletics deception strategies, game plans and plays all factor into players, coaches and managers schemes to win the game... This is about winning the game of LIFE - by playing by THEIR RULES... They are lying and deceiving the World...

I don't have any problem if quitting a job happens to be the best strategy for some as a practical means of survival ... ie as a means to possibly re-unite and/or re-join family and friends in a safer place...

I do find it interesting (even concerning) that you can come on here with a 'secure job' and tell people how easy it is to simply to quit their jobs and their lives and start new jobs and lives somewhere else...
Please watch this so you are informed = https://www.brighteon.com/ad1c2680-8c99-4e7d-b57c-af6337e50f65
 

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Rahab’s recorded words and actions in Joshua 2 reveal a woman in transition—from living like a pagan harlot to embracing the One true God and His ways. Note her statements to the Israelite spies:

I know that the Lord has given you the land, that the terror of you has fallen on us, and that all the inhabitants of the land are fainthearted because of you. For we have heard how the Lord dried up the water of the Red Sea…and what you did to the two kings of the Amorites…. And as soon as we heard these things our hearts melted…for the Lord your God, He is God in heaven above and on Earth beneath (Joshua 2:9-11).​
Rahab’s dishonesty is never condoned in Scripture. She was no more commended in the Old Testament or the New Testament for lying than she was for her harlotry. She was commended and graciously spared from the destruction of Jericho because of her overall faith and works at the time, despite the fact that her newly found, faith (which was quickly emerging out of a heavily pagan culture) was still a work in progress. Yes, she lied to the king’s men, but she also (1) confessed belief in God, (2) appealed to Him for help, (3) showed kindness to the Israelite spies, (4) courageously hid them and helped them escape, etc.

Jesus could have lied and worked things out to spare His own life, but He died and rose for a higher purpose. He submissively fulfilled His Father’s will. Jesus and disciples could have instructed the early church to avoid persecution and death by lying for each other or by denying their own faith in Christ, but they didn’t.

The story of Rahab should not be used as a license to lie. Instead, we should retell Rahab’s story to show the greatness of God.
<<<Jesus could have lied and worked things out to spare His own life>>>

My dear friend....THAT is out the pit of hell, from Satan's lying lips.
Too many Scriptures to recount...but PLEASE conduct many many Bible studies on these matters. You have shredded more fundamental Biblical doctrines with that one line than I have perhaps witnessed in my entire life.....:oops:
 

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Well in hospital we are wearing mask and faceshield in working with Covid Patients

If you are outside the concentration of a virus in the air is less, then in a room.

But their is among the specialist and doctors a big uncernity. Not everything is well proofed. Many meanings.
And thats why we have confusion in this whole Pandemie. And this confusion is fired on with countless conspiracy theorys.

only say what is common sense in a case of what we have f.e. with Covid, which is a real virus.
Because you dont know who is infectet, take distance and mask for to reduce the risk to get it. And if there is a vaccine, take it.
I am shure that many of the present anti vac people would take the vac, if ebola comes like Covid is doing.

lol, Yes among specialist and doctors there's a "big uncertainty" That's why I ask about the IgG, IgA, ect.(no big deal if they don't answer I understand) In post #1195 I attached an article(not sure if you read it) but it I think explains what those specialist and doctors are so uncertain about. That is irregardless of which approach is taken the end result will still take place.

There's always in science this they refer to as "gain of function". This though by definition is an illusive phrase, arbitrary by it's nature in it's meaning. It can mean that we took two tomato types and crossed them and the end result gained an more desirable strain of tomato. It could also mean that by nature the bees pollinated one crop of beans after they flew to another field a mile away. The end result is the same in that we consider the end product to have gained an certain function.

At times though this can work in an undesirable manner and the end result could be considered loss instead of gain. In the case of antibiotics this has become an reality in that after doctors prescribed them without testing then eventually certain problems took place and now we have what we refer to as "super bugs" resistant to the antibiotics we have. In such then these bugs have underwent the process of "gain of function" but it is rather undesirable to mankind though quite desirable to the "bug",I.E.staff (and others) as we call it. In the case of C-19 and it's mutations it matters little if this is by nature or man-made but instead the end results of the specific "gain of function" is the problem in that in this case it's desirable for the virus and not for man.

I suppose that in great hopes we have all desired that after the many were vaccinated and the others who caught the virus and recovered we would then have developed an immunity to this on an cellular level. This would be the desired result in the quest of gain of function in the behalf of man but it does not seem to be the case. That is for a while at the beginning we did not wear mask and it spread unrestrained and then we did wear them and again it is spreading unrestrained. For a while we had no vaccine and it spread unrestrained and it is still spreading unrestrained now that we are vaccinating.

It's simply an gain of function in that the virus in it's self has gained function and we are now finding out that the efficacy is in the favor of the virus itself. That is it has acquired the advantage of gain of function in that if we vaccinate it will mutate and if we catch it then our antibodies will deplete and we will catch it again. In such we will vaccinate and then our antibodies will dwindle. We will then require an booster. In turn the virus will become more infectious and we will eventually require an booster every month and then the vaccine will stimulate enough antibodies that they will attack our organs and become an fatal dosage.

On the other hand if we don't take the vaccine we will catch it and the severity of the case will be dependent of the viral load we have in our bodies. Then we will recover(hopefully) and then the antibodies will dwindle dependent on the "viral load" which will determine the length of time the antibodies remain in our body and in the meantime it will mutate until it can be infectious enough to overcome the amount of antibodies our bodies can produce and again then will become fatal. Anyone who catches it over and over will eventually die,vaccinated or not,,,don't catch it.
 
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I do not know where to post this, however this kind of falls in line with everything. Yes, I work for a union at my job. However we had a call tonight. Many other stewards are going against our Chaplain because he goes around telling people they do not need the face mask.

However, I felt as the other stewards where attacking our chaplain because of an indifference. Saying because he keeps his lights low it is like he is a demon. However, he is not.

I sent a stern message to the union it self saying it is wrong to make such a judgment call even against a Man of God who has every right to speak his mind in which we all do. Just because he does not agree with their agenda does not mean at all that he should have his job threatened.

I told them as well, I have a major job offer back home and I plan to take it.

He is against the company who forces people to take vaccines or be fired. It shows that the union I work for is for the business not the worker.

I am going to copy what I wrote to them here and I do not really care what they think, or say to me about it.

"Everyone has different views. Regardless of anything, I will speak how I feel about everything. First and foremost, I felt as if many where just attacking the chaplain because he has a different view.

Not everyone has to agree with protocol, however if he is doing what they saying he is doing that can be wrong. However, how would it be any different if I done the same?

As Americans, we all share major differences within our views. That is our freedom to do so. Yes, even when a group of people do not agree with something they can also voice their opinions.

Just as it had happened tonight on the call. To me? The chaplain should be left alone, if this is going to be some kind of crazy parade I am going to step down, and I will find another job.

To attack a man of God is like attacking God Himself.

That is how I feel about it, we either do the right thing as to protect each worker regardless of ANY VIEW or hang the whole thing up.

So what if he has a darkened room, he is from a southern state and it is very calming. If a Team Member asks to turn the light on, he has no problem in doing so.

However, to judge the man in this manor and talk down about him as he was talked about is just doing the exact same thing that many hate. Being judged before being known.

To me? Yes, the vaccine should be a choice of the worker. To Me? Yes, the worker has a voice and a right to state how they feel.

I got vaccinated because I chose to. Not because of some corrupt system such as Tyson telling me to.

I have a major Job Offer back home, I plan on taking it, I am just sick of this whole thing because I feel very wrong by having heared such belittlement against someone who had earned their right to speak their peace.

I respect the man, and the truth of it is? If it was not for people like him our own freedoms in this country would never be in existence.

You may think I am wrong, you may even laugh at this email. However, you should know I speak my mind, and my peace upon everything. I may be wrong at times, however in this? I am not."

This may be a tad off topic, however I do not know where else to post this.

God Bless!
 
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I do not know where to post this, however this kind of falls in line with everything. Yes, I work for a union at my job. However we had a call tonight. Many other stewards are going against our Chaplain because he goes around telling people they do not need the face mask.

However, I felt as the other stewards where attacking our chaplain because of an indifference. Saying because he keeps his lights low it is like he is a demon. However, he is not.

I sent a stern message to the union it self saying it is wrong to make such a judgment call even against a Man of God who has every right to speak his mind in which we all do. Just because he does not agree with their agenda does not mean at all that he should have his job threatened.

I told them as well, I have a major job offer back home and I plan to take it.

He is against the company who forces people to take vaccines or be fired. It shows that the union I work for is for the business not the worker.

I am going to copy what I wrote to them here and I do not really care what they think, or say to me about it.

"Everyone has different views. Regardless of anything, I will speak how I feel about everything. First and foremost, I felt as if many where just attacking the chaplain because he has a different view.

Not everyone has to agree with protocol, however if he is doing what they saying he is doing that can be wrong. However, how would it be any different if I done the same?

As Americans, we all share major differences within our views. That is our freedom to do so. Yes, even when a group of people do not agree with something they can also voice their opinions.

Just as it had happened tonight on the call. To me? The chaplain should be left alone, if this is going to be some kind of crazy parade I am going to step down, and I will find another job.

To attack a man of God is like attacking God Himself.

That is how I feel about it, we either do the right thing as to protect each worker regardless of ANY VIEW or hang the whole thing up.

So what if he has a darkened room, he is from a southern state and it is very calming. If a Team Member asks to turn the light on, he has no problem in doing so.

However, to judge the man in this manor and talk down about him as he was talked about is just doing the exact same thing that many hate. Being judged before being known.

To me? Yes, the vaccine should be a choice of the worker. To Me? Yes, the worker has a voice and a right to state how they feel.

I got vaccinated because I chose to. Not because of some corrupt system such as Tyson telling me to.

I have a major Job Offer back home, I plan on taking it, I am just sick of this whole thing because I feel very wrong by having heared such belittlement against someone who had earned their right to speak their peace.

I respect the man, and the truth of it is? If it was not for people like him our own freedoms in this country would never be in existence.

You may think I am wrong, you may even laugh at this email. However, you should know I speak my mind, and my peace upon everything. I may be wrong at times, however in this? I am not."

This may be a tad off topic, however I do not know where else to post this.

God Bless!
Brother, do not take any more vaxx jabs - the vaxx is not of God but from the evil one. Here is important info for you =
https://www.brighteon.com/ad1c2680-8c99-4e7d-b57c-af6337e50f65
 

Gideon300

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So true. These people deliberately forget the vast number of videos during and after the alleged pandemic, with citizen-journalists showing the hospitals empty.
I was in hospital during a lockdown. I was seriously ill and I had a high temperature. I was moved to a COVID ward as a precaution, until the test proved negative. There were few people there.

There is a good reason for this. Prior to the emergency measures taken by the state of Victoria, 800 people died in Victoria alone. Since those measures were introduced, another 20 or so have died. A very few have died as a result of vaccinations. Early in the pandemic Victoria's hospitals were swamped with patients. Elective treatments and surgeries were postponed and many people left to suffer as a result.

If the lockdowns (we are in our sixth) had not taken place, I could well not have been here to talk about it. I'm delighted that the COVID ward had only a few patients. I got some rest, near impossible on the general ward. It also meant that the hospital was not buckling under the strain. I detest the lockdown. I detest being near death and in the greatest pain I've ever suffered even more. God pulled me through and I was able to witness to a number of the medical staff, one of whom witnessed a miracle and accepted that it was an answer to prayer. So let's give some glory to God instead of glorifying Satan as is if he was the one in charge. Lord Jesus has overcome the world. The world system is not going to change, it will be replaced by God's kingdom. Scare mongering, misinformation, repeating half truths and making libelous remarks is not going to further the kingdom of God.
 

Gideon300

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No. I draw conclusions based on facts. And facts so far indicate that there is no guarantee you will be free from getting Covid-19 if you take the faux vaccine. In fact, there is a greater likelihood of getting Covid-19 after taking the faux vaccine. And no one, and I mean NO ONE, can say with any degree of certainty that the reason you contracted Covid-19 was because you did not take the shot. End of story. Stay blessed.
"Facts"? You start with a lie stating that the vaccine is false. So it rather undermines the conclusions that you come to.
 

Gideon300

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Not at all. Just being a good detective.

I'm sure Germans heard a lot of testimony denounced as rumors from witnesses that death camps were in operation. But there was no official reporting of this by German authorities. The Jews who were good detectives fled the country. Or as a last ditch effort jumped from the trains.

The moral of the story is NEVER WAIT for worldly authority to make decisions FOR you. The historical examples are myriad and endless. And bear in mind the absolute corruption of the election stealing Biden regime. No draconian plot is beneath them.
Do you not have any confidence in God whatsoever? The Antichrist is not yet in control. You will know when he is. It will be as clear as day for believers. I have reasons to at least consider vaccination. They include Typhoid, Yellow Fever, Cholera, Smallpox, Polio, Rubella, Chicken Pox, Whooping Cough and few others that I forget. The world system is controlled by Satan but Satan has been defeated. God still answers prayer. Even during the tribulation, some will be saved. Try praying for those in authority instead of judging, condemning, libeling and rebelling.
 

HoneyDew

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<<<Jesus could have lied and worked things out to spare His own life>>>

My dear friend....THAT is out the pit of hell, from Satan's lying lips.
Too many Scriptures to recount...but PLEASE conduct many many Bible studies on these matters. You have shredded more fundamental Biblical doctrines with that one line than I have perhaps witnessed in my entire life.....:oops:
Try reading to understand and not to argue. :ROFL: @ from satan's (little s) lips. I'm not even entertaining that one as I nothing to do with that.
 

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It's unfortunate the dire situation that we are in. When we acknowledge that we are In a very real Spiritual WAR, that is designed around Irregular Warfare tactics and Information Warfare techniques it helps us to understand - that in this type of warfare - THEY have been LYING to US and the WORLD all along... When you accept the consequences, stakes, and implications of doing whatever it takes to protect your family, loved ones, home, neighborhood, town, city and country than it becomes easier to understand the significance of being able to do whatever it takes to survive, to live to continue to fight evil another day...

In Military Operations - this is simply understood as the Art of War... where the element of Surprise (for tactical advantage) often is best performed with the support of Deception Operations...

In Athletics deception strategies, game plans and plays all factor into players, coaches and managers schemes to win the game... This is about winning the game of LIFE - by playing by THEIR RULES... They are lying and deceiving the World...

I don't have any problem if quitting a job happens to be the best strategy for some as a practical means of survival ... ie as a means to possibly re-unite and/or re-join family and friends in a safer place...

I do find it interesting (even concerning) that you can come on here with a 'secure job' and tell people how easy it is to simply to quit their jobs and their lives and start new jobs and lives somewhere else...
Having a secure job and offering an opinion with the intent of help others is NOT concerning.
What is concerning is you posting a link and suggesting that people give it to their employer thinking it will make the employer back off when it will more than like get them fired. which was my point. It wasn't a suggestion to quit but giving what could happen. The employer will more than likely tell them that they no longer have to work there and hire someone else to fill that position.
Most employers have attorney's in place when they draw up policies for their businesses. Again people have to do what is best for them.
 

shittim

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I have heard from Americans living in France that when the people tirn out like this the government listens, might have to do with a history of the storming of the Bastille.
 

cv5

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Try reading to understand and not to argue. :ROFL: @ from satan's (little s) lips. I'm not even entertaining that one as I nothing to do with that.
You wrote it. You have everything to do with it.
 
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