If smoking ciggerettes was around at the time of Jesus would it have been classed a sin

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Rosemaryx

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This really is not good advice @Rosemaryx the most most important part of being a christian is to have faith in Jesus, not addiction. addiction (nicotene controls a persons temperament (your nature and nerves) it should be the fruits of the spirit that control your nature not nicotene. this is the one thing certain of vapor pens.


2: Research Suggests Vaping Is Bad for Your Heart and Lungs

Nicotine is the primary agent in both regular cigarettes and e-cigarettes, and it is highly addictive. It causes you to crave a smoke and suffer withdrawal symptoms if you ignore the craving. Nicotine is also a toxic substance. It raises your blood pressure and spikes your adrenaline, which increases your heart rate and the likelihood of having a heart attack.


Is vaping bad for you? There are many unknowns about vaping, including what chemicals make up the vapor and how they affect physical health over the long term. “People need to understand that e-cigarettes are potentially dangerous to your health,” says Blaha. “Emerging data suggests links to chronic lung disease and asthma, and associations between dual use of e-cigarettes and smoking with cardiovascular disease. You’re exposing yourself to all kinds of chemicals that we don’t yet understand and that are probably not safe.”

3: Electronic Cigarettes Are Just As Addictive As Traditional Ones

Both e-cigarettes and regular cigarettes contain nicotine, which research suggests may be as addictive as heroin and cocaine. What’s worse, says Blaha, many e-cigarette users get even more nicotine than they would from a tobacco product — you can buy extra-strength cartridges, which have a higher concentration of nicotine, or you can increase the e-cigarette’s voltage to get a greater hit of the substance.
I have none of the above symptoms...
The government know they lose money on those that vape , so they do what they always do , scare people , and oh bye the way , not all vaping oils have nicotine , and some are even organic natural oil...
 

Gardenias

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I have none of the above symptoms...
The government know they lose money on those that vape , so they do what they always do , scare people , and oh bye the way , not all vaping oils have nicotine , and some are even organic natural oil...


Rosemary,greetings❤️
I was so hoping you wouldn't become a target.
I tried vaping as replacement for cigarettes but it made me sick.

Some people are so hell bent on picking apart others sins and lives they serve no purpose on a public forum except that purpose. Not knowing all the struggles a person has suffered and conquered nor caring it seems.

Live close to Jesus and remember he said to the accusers of the adulterous woman" he that is WITHOUT sin,cast the first stone"!
 
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I have none of the above symptoms...
The government know they lose money on those that vape , so they do what they always do , scare people , and oh bye the way , not all vaping oils have nicotine , and some are even organic natural oil...
Don't listen to the accusers. They stand with the accuser of the brethren. That is not a place for any believer.

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de-emerald

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I'm still waiting for your answer of how you know demons so well. On a Christian forum, it is crucial that we know.

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i can see you along with others have a nature of ridiculing people, and thats the way to treat a brother who care for peoples spiritual well being, and really the wisdom of Jesus and the fruits of the spirit teaches you ho to cast out demons, something you should know if your born again.

but no what some of you would rather do is slay a brother to protect filthy nicotene which is addictive as cocaine and heroin.
 
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i can see you along with others have a nature of ridiculing people, and thats the way to treat a brother who care for peoples spiritual well being, and really the wisdom of Jesus and the fruits of the spirit teaches you ho to cast out demons, something you should know if your born again.

but no what some of you would rather do is slay a brother to protect filthy nicotene which is addictive as cocaine and heroin.
I don't know that you are my brother. Second, I was not ridiculing you, I am seriously concerned about what you post. I want to know how and why you are so familiar with demons.

You must have had some really bad days with cocaine and herion to be so familiar with demons and then become so defensive.

Just spill it.. tell us what the heck is up with you. Telling us you can smell demons is C.R.E.E.P.Y.



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de-emerald

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Rosemary,greetings❤️
I was so hoping you wouldn't become a target.
I tried vaping as replacement for cigarettes but it made me sick.

Some people are so hell bent on picking apart others sins and lives they serve no purpose on a public forum except that purpose. Not knowing all the struggles a person has suffered and conquered nor caring it seems.

Live close to Jesus and remember he said to the accusers of the adulterous woman" he that is WITHOUT sin,cast the first stone"!
some people are hell bent on twisting which is the nature of the beast, which comes from your nature being controled by nicotene.

you mockers in this forum would all curse some one to hell if you had no nicotene fix and you curse people to hell for speaking the truth in love about ho dangerous nicotene is, thats called the language of temptation from the devil
 
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some people are hell bent on twisting which is the nature of the beast, which comes from your nature being controled by nicotene.

you mockers in this forum would all curse some one to hell if you had no nicotene fix and you curse people to hell for speaking the truth in love about ho dangerous nicotene is, thats called the language of temptation from the devil
Aren't you tired of gnashing your teeth yet?

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de-emerald

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I have none of the above symptoms...
The government know they lose money on those that vape , so they do what they always do , scare people , and oh bye the way , not all vaping oils have nicotine , and some are even organic natural oil...
well your only young yet, but still because you have none yet, is that a good basis for giving advice on vapor pens our ok ? and can you see into your lungs
 

de-emerald

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I don't know where you are standing, but it's not anywhere I want to be.
yup see i told you all you would rather assasinate a person character some ten posts ago then accept responcability, and here you all are just doing that.
 

Gardenias

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some people are hell bent on twisting which is the nature of the beast, which comes from your nature being controled by nicotene.

you mockers in this forum would all curse some one to hell if you had no nicotene fix and you curse people to hell for speaking the truth in love about ho dangerous nicotene is, thats called the language of temptation from the devil




Wow
You might want to check yourself before you blow a fuse!
Myself,NOT feeling the love from you!
 

de-emerald

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Wow
You might want to check yourself before you blow a fuse!
Myself,NOT feeling the love from you!
well that all for now folks come back tomorrow for some hatred from disrespectful so called christians
 

de-emerald

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I guess you get a little grumpy if you don't get your Snicker's bar.
I guess It's just not serious then to be led astray as well, and we should accept that to,

I'm going to take a little time to help you see something really important.

Nicotine is just as addictive as heroin and cocaine. When a smoker don't get a fix of nicotine the nature in a persons body becomes restless irritated or bad-tempered even angry, which means the fruits of the spirit is no longer controlling that persons' nature, a very powerful drug called nicotine is. This is very important to understand just how dangerous that is. Because when the fruits of the spirit are no longer controlling a person nature. A person is in spiritual trouble. Temptation then is so much harder to overcome and nicotene is as strong as that. The will of a person is then broken.

This is also very important to spiritual well-being and the fruits of spirit working as they should do in the body. This is why Jesus tells us the body is a temple for the Holy Spirit.

Drug addiction of the most addictive type, like nicotine, is something that starts with temptation from the devil. Smoking nicotine is the devils' invention to separate a person from the fruits of the spirit, which protect a persons very nature. Nicotine takes control of a persons nature and is an artificial substance, all people will get angry if they smoke and don't get their fix. This does not happen to people born again who don't smoke. When a person is controlled by addiction to drugs as strong as nicotine then they can also be controlled by Satan because the fruits of the spirit are no longer controlling the person's nature and temperament, nicotine is.

The full reality is for a smoker to keep their nature under control is they have to keep smoking or go through 3 to six months of withdrawals such is the power of nicotine addiction that smokers have withdrawals for months. This means it's a serious drug addiction just like heroin and cocaine it seriously controls the body which is a temple that the Holy Spirit should be controlling
 

gb9

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I guess It's just not serious then to be led astray as well, and we should accept that to,

I'm going to take a little time to help you see something really important.

Nicotine is just as addictive as heroin and cocaine. When a smoker don't get a fix of nicotine the nature in a persons body becomes restless irritated or bad-tempered even angry, which means the fruits of the spirit is no longer controlling that persons' nature, a very powerful drug called nicotine is. This is very important to understand just how dangerous that is. Because when the fruits of the spirit are no longer controlling a person nature. A person is in spiritual trouble. Temptation then is so much harder to overcome and nicotene is as strong as that. The will of a person is then broken.

This is also very important to spiritual well-being and the fruits of spirit working as they should do in the body. This is why Jesus tells us the body is a temple for the Holy Spirit.

Drug addiction of the most addictive type, like nicotine, is something that starts with temptation from the devil. Smoking nicotine is the devils' invention to separate a person from the fruits of the spirit, which protect a persons very nature. Nicotine takes control of a persons nature and is an artificial substance, all people will get angry if they smoke and don't get their fix. This does not happen to people born again who don't smoke. When a person is controlled by addiction to drugs as strong as nicotine then they can also be controlled by Satan because the fruits of the spirit are no longer controlling the person's nature and temperament, nicotine is.

The full reality is for a smoker to keep their nature under control is they have to keep smoking or go through 3 to six months of withdrawals such is the power of nicotine addiction that smokers have withdrawals for months. This means it's a serious drug addiction just like heroin and cocaine it seriously controls the body which is a temple that the Holy Spirit should be controlling

being diabetic is commonly caused by a person eating too much rich, sugary foods.

diabetes can be just as harmful as smoking side effects on the body.

so, since you say smoking or vaping is a sin, then would being diabetic also be a sin??
 

de-emerald

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being diabetic is commonly caused by a person eating too much rich, sugary foods.

diabetes can be just as harmful as smoking side effects on the body.

so, since you say smoking or vaping is a sin, then would being diabetic also be a sin??
When Judging a brother of sin, you need to remember the root cause of sin, which is temptation.
Temptation is a sin from the devil mostly. This is very important to recognise that falling for temptation is absolutely so cruel in the case of starting smoking for anybody. Many many thousands of children are smoking cigarettes and have more than likely been tricked by evil to start smoking, the sad part is they dont see it as a sin.
 

gb9

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When Judging a brother of sin, you need to remember the root cause of sin, which is temptation.
Temptation is a sin from the devil mostly. This is very important to recognise that falling for temptation is absolutely so cruel in the case of starting smoking for anybody. Many many thousands of children are smoking cigarettes and have more than likely been tricked by evil to start smoking, the sad part is they dont see it as a sin.

you did not answer the question.
 

de-emerald

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you did not answer the question.
I would read post 196, and then ask your question again. post 196 came befor your question, and it answers your question, and proves without a shadow of a doubt that smoking is number 1 temptatation from the devil and number 2 sin, number 3 living in sin, number 4 being married to the harlot.