Why do Christians believe in a place of torment called Hell?

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Duckybill

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Except you said NONE exist. You should be teaching bible studies in a University.
Let me try again: "I made it perfectly clear. There are no "non believers in Christ". NONE!"
 

Duckybill

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The dead know nothing...
Have you ever read the Bible?

"The rich man also died"
"being in torments"
"he cried"
"I am tormented in this flame"
"this place of torment"


Luke 16:22-28 (NKJV)
22 The rich man also died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.' 25 But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.' 27 Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house, 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.'
 

Magenta

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Have you ever read the Bible?

"The rich man also died"
"being in torments"
"he cried"
"I am tormented in this flame"
"this place of torment"

Luke 16:22-28 (NKJV)
22 The rich man also died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.' 25 But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.' 27 Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house, 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.'
Jesus spoke all these things to the crowds in parables. He did not tell them
anything without using a parable. So was fulfilled what was spoken through
the prophet:
“I will open My mouth in parables; I will utter things hidden
since the foundation of the world.”
Matthew 13:34-35
 

Duckybill

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Jesus spoke all these things to the crowds in parables. He did not tell them anything without using a parable. So was fulfilled what was spoken through the prophet: “I will open My mouth in parables; I will utter things hidden since the foundation of the world.” Matthew 13:34-35
It's not a parable. You have ZERO proof.
 

Magenta

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So John 3:16 "everlasting life" is just a parable? Nah! And you think Jesus made up lies? Nah!
It was not said of John that "He did not tell them anything without using a parable."

On the other hand, you seem to think Jesus made idle threats...
 

Duckybill

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How odd. I affirm the Deity of Christ with a multitude of Scriptures and you tell lies about it.
That's great that you believe in Jesus / God of the Bible. Now quote my "lies" or be the liar.
 

Magenta

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That's great that you believe in Jesus / God of the Bible. Now quote my "lies" or be the liar.
Your question: Are you a JW?

I direct you to a thread where I repeatedly affirm the Deity of Christ.

You come back with, "Sounds like a YES!"

How else was I to interpret that?
 

Duckybill

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Your question: Are you a JW?

I direct you to a thread where I repeatedly affirm the Deity of Christ.

You come back with, "Sounds like a YES!"

How else was I to interpret that?
Asking you a question is a lie?
 

Magenta

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Asking you a question is a lie?
Deriving a "YES!" from my response to your question if I was a JW is a lie.

If you cannot even follow your own line of discourse, how is
anyone to believe you are capable of understanding Scripture?
 

Duckybill

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Deriving a "YES!" from my response to your question if I was a JW is a lie.

If you cannot even follow your own line of discourse, how is
anyone to believe you are capable of understanding Scripture?
So your questions are LIES?
 
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Jesus spoke all these things to the crowds in parables. He did not tell them anything without using a parable[The book of John has no parables
 
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Have you ever read the Bible?

"The rich man also died"
"being in torments"
"he cried"
"I am tormented in this flame"
"this place of torment"


Luke 16:22-28 (NKJV)
22 The rich man also died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.' 25 But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.' 27 Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house, 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.'
That passage doesn't say anywhere the torment lasts forever.