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Smoke

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I am not political, I am not a cheerleader for Trump or for Biden. The main reason is I don't think either one makes that much of a difference despite being very appreciative of Trump's four years and all that he had to put up with. This is Kabuki theater, they wanted to put a Trump face on the vaccine and they wanted to put a Biden face on this Afghanistan fiasco. Trump didn't make the vaccine, he has no understanding of how these vaccines are made. His expertise is in getting the vaccine fast tracked.

If the vaccine is made with some ulterior motive and if the pandemic was a plandemic designed for this "vaccine" to be the solution, all of that was decided and planned apart from Trump. He was simply a pawn.

Think of Biden, he doesn't even know what he is signing, they simply put a variety of papers in front of him and tell him to sign.

It is essentially the same.

So think about that. Why would you want Biden's face on the fiasco in Afghanistan unless your goal is to kick him out. Why would you steal an election only to then kick out the guy you installed? Why for that matter fund Antifa to riot in the US, or open the US border wide? Everything that is being done is to create chaos. They want chaos, confusion, everyone shouting at everyone, fighting with everyone. If the US is focused on a single mission they will be able to stop any power from taking over the world, you get us fighting one another, make the situation chaotic as it is now, we are incapable of focusing on stopping the real enemy.
What makes you think that you know more/better about the vaccine than Trump though? I get you appreciate the 4 years he gave us, heck, I am too. He was better than Hillary, that's for dang sure. But why would you and a small alt-right group of people think yall know more about this vaccine than Trump, Cruz, Graham, Abbott, etc... These are people that champion freedom and have a track record of going against tyranny. Why is it that they are all so misinformed but YOU got it right?
 

PennEd

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I had a 26 year old family member, perfect health, very athletic, that went to his non denominational Christian church one day and died of a brain aneurysm.

I'm sure atheists would love to use this story about how going to church kills people. "Proof is in the pudding."

CORRELATION DOES NOT IMPLY CAUSATION
Correlate this Smoker!

Louie Knuxx: 42-year-old New Zealand hip hop artist mocks lockdown protesters, dead 28 days after second Pfizer mRNA injection
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https://thecovidblog.com/2021/08/23...d-28-days-after-second-pfizer-mrna-injection/
 
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I had a 26 year old family member, perfect health, very athletic, that went to his non denominational Christian church one day and died of a brain aneurysm.

I'm sure atheists would love to use this story about how going to church kills people. "Proof is in the pudding." Denominational Christians can use this as proof that non-denominational churches kill people.

CORRELATION DOES NOT IMPLY CAUSATION
Perfect counter to conspiracies. You couldn't say it any better.
 

Smoke

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Correlate this Smoker!

Louie Knuxx: 42-year-old New Zealand hip hop artist mocks lockdown protesters, dead 28 days after second Pfizer mRNA injection
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https://thecovidblog.com/2021/08/23...d-28-days-after-second-pfizer-mrna-injection/
So googling this guy shows he died of a heart attacking while running. I guess you're doing the very thing you spoke against when they counted the reason for someone's death as "complications from covid" when they would die in a car accident but was positive for covid.

To you, correlation equals causation...
 

PennEd

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These facts won’t matter to the lemmings. No matter how much data, no matter how many expert immunologists, no matter how many deaths, they are COMMITTED to follow this path of destruction:

Ultra-Vaxxed Israel’s Crisis Is a Dire Warning to America

“I don’t want to frighten you,” Israel’s COVID czar Dr. Salman Zarka told parliament this week. “But… unfortunately, the numbers don’t lie.”

Noga Tarnopolsky
Updated Aug. 24, 2021 7:51AM ET

JERUSALEM—The massive surge of COVID-19 infections in Israel, one of the most vaccinated countries on earth, is pointing to a complicated path ahead for America.

In June, there were several days with zero new COVID infections in Israel. The country launched its national vaccination campaign in December last year and has one of the highest vaccination rates in the world, with 80 percent of citizens above the age of 12 fully inoculated. COVID, most Israelis thought, had been defeated. All restrictions were lifted and Israelis went back to crowded partying and praying in mask-free venues.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ultra-vaccinated-israels-debacle-is-a-dire-warning-to-america
 

PennEd

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So googling this guy shows he died of a heart attacking while running. I guess you're doing the very thing you spoke against when they counted the reason for someone's death as "complications from covid" when they would die in a car accident but was positive for covid.

To you, correlation equals causation...
Why don’t you dig through all 13,000 plus deaths (only 10% of total) due to the vaccine, then come back with your correlation!
https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data
 

ZNP

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What makes you think that you know more/better about the vaccine than Trump though? I get you appreciate the 4 years he gave us, heck, I am too. He was better than Hillary, that's for dang sure. But why would you and a small alt-right group of people think yall know more about this vaccine than Trump, Cruz, Graham, Abbott, etc... These are people that champion freedom and have a track record of going against tyranny. Why is it that they are all so misinformed but YOU got it right?
I'm glad you asked.

First, any of us who are not anti vaxxers (I am not anti vax) would have gladly welcomed Pfizer and others making a vaccine against Covid. That is not an issue.

However, as evidence comes out that Covid was a virus made in a bioweapons lab and was an act of war (Trump had some idea of this but more evidence has come out since) and since evidence has come out that Fauci funded this research, lied about, and tried to hide this fact all while undermining President Trump (probably something that Trump was not aware of or at least not fully aware of) and since we now know that Fauci cheered those governors who caused the greatest number of deaths (Cuomo, etc) all while lying about the efficacy of HCQ which probably killed tens of thousands of Americans. These are things that we know now that Trump either didn't know or didn't fully know and would make any competent thinking person question what is going on.

Not only so this took place during the height of his campaign for reelection which must have consumed a lot of his time and distracted him whereas we have had 12 months to carefully peruse the information.

Still, Trump was no longer in office when the vast majority of Americans were vaccinated. All of my concerns about this vaccine are a result of doctors raising alarms from what they are seeing, observations that have all taken place after Trump left office.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Please do not call the Word of God Sci-fi.
Many christians are completely ignorant and in denial of what took place in Genesis where the Scripture says: the Sons of God took the daughters of men.........

Remember what God did because of this - the Sons of God took the daughters of men for wives - the product of that offspring was so corrupt and defiled that God had to CLEANSE the earth with the Flood.
Noah was perfect in his generation.
Do you think this only speaks of his faith in God alone....no it goes deeper then that - right down to his genetic makeup - he was undefiled from the forbidden mixing.

Although you are fully aware of this, I want to remind you that after the Lord had delivered His people out of the land of Egypt, He destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who did not stay within their own domain but abandoned their proper dwelling—these He has kept in eternal chains under darkness, bound for judgment on that great day.
In like manner, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, who indulged in sexual immorality and pursued strange flesh, are on display as an example of those who sustain the punishment of eternal fire. Jude

The Lord Jesus Christ stated the obvious, peace and saftey in the mind of sinners before their destruction, but He did not limit it to that alone but tied it in with all that was takening place in Noah's time = "As in the Days of Noah"
I didn't call the word of God sci-fi. Where did I deny the account of Genesis 6 or the flood?

I'm not in denial of anything. I've studied the speculative "return of the Nephilim" idea.
I just don't believe Jesus was giving that theory any support in his statement about Noah.


I simply pointed out that the verse in question has Jesus' own commentary on his own statement.
He tells us EXACTLY what he means. There is no need to insert anything else into the meaning of the prophecy.


He certainly does not say ALL that was taking place in Noah's time applied to the time of his return.
In Noah's day only eight people survived the Judgement. In Noah's day all the animals were killed.
Shall we expect that again?


The verse in context is warning people to repent and be ready.

Where the scripture is silent we should be cautious.
Where the scripture gives us repeated warnings we should pay attention.
 

ZNP

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And yet so many lemmings are going to listen and inject more of this junk into their bodies!

March -- Our data suggests that using 3 leeches to drain the corrupted blood is sufficient to ward off disease. May -- Updated data suggests that 3 leeches are not enough, we suggest using 6 leeches. August -- The latest findings indicate that 6 leeches are not enough we suggest using 9 leeches as people with the six leeches are starting to fill up our hospitals because of all the unleeched people.
 

ZNP

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I didn't call the word of God sci-fi. Where did I deny the account of Genesis 6 or the flood?

I'm not in denial of anything. I've studied the speculative "return of the Nephilim" idea.
I just don't believe Jesus was giving that theory any support in his statement about Noah.


I simply pointed out that the verse in question has Jesus' own commentary on his own statement.
He tells us EXACTLY what he means. There is no need to insert anything else into the meaning of the prophecy.


He certainly does not say ALL that was taking place in Noah's time applied to the time of his return.
In Noah's day only eight people survived the Judgement. In Noah's day all the animals were killed.
Shall we expect that again?


The verse in context is warning people to repent and be ready.

Where the scripture is silent we should be cautious.
Where the scripture gives us repeated warnings we should pay attention.
Luke 17:26 “Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. 27 People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.

The people being given in marriage were destroyed. Isn't the fact that angels were taking the daughters of men and mating with them what we are talking about and what He is talking about? That was the reason for the flood was it not? He says they did not repent right up to the minute they were wiped out.
 

ZNP

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These facts won’t matter to the lemmings. No matter how much data, no matter how many expert immunologists, no matter how many deaths, they are COMMITTED to follow this path of destruction:

Ultra-Vaxxed Israel’s Crisis Is a Dire Warning to America

“I don’t want to frighten you,” Israel’s COVID czar Dr. Salman Zarka told parliament this week. “But… unfortunately, the numbers don’t lie.”

Noga Tarnopolsky
Updated Aug. 24, 2021 7:51AM ET

JERUSALEM—The massive surge of COVID-19 infections in Israel, one of the most vaccinated countries on earth, is pointing to a complicated path ahead for America.

In June, there were several days with zero new COVID infections in Israel. The country launched its national vaccination campaign in December last year and has one of the highest vaccination rates in the world, with 80 percent of citizens above the age of 12 fully inoculated. COVID, most Israelis thought, had been defeated. All restrictions were lifted and Israelis went back to crowded partying and praying in mask-free venues.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ultra-vaccinated-israels-debacle-is-a-dire-warning-to-america
“We are still in the midst of a pandemic, and there is no silver bullet.”

Israel vaccinated its population almost exclusively with the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, which received full FDA approval on Monday and remains the gold standard for the prevention of severe illness due to the coronavirus.
 

ZNP

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So googling this guy shows he died of a heart attacking while running. I guess you're doing the very thing you spoke against when they counted the reason for someone's death as "complications from covid" when they would die in a car accident but was positive for covid.

To you, correlation equals causation...
A major adverse reaction to the vaccine is heart disease. The spike proteins cause inflammation of blood vessels, arteries, and heart tissue.
 

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These are things that we know now that Trump either didn't know or didn't fully know and would make any competent thinking person question what is going on.
Donald Trump cannot be exonerated for choosing to become a part of the problem. When he ran for office he was fully aware that the Deep State was in control and all the departments of government had been thoroughly corrupted by the Obama administration. Trump had a moral obligation to root out all of Obama's appointees (including Fauci and all others in every department). He not only failed to do so, but he failed to properly vet Fraudster Anthony Fauci. Instead he made this Hillary-Clinton-lover the head of his task force and brought disaster to America. Fauci should be behind bars right now. Instead he is allowed to continue controlling the narrative, while he is working for China.

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko had sent a personal letter to Trump about his very successful HCQ combo pack which Trump ignored. Had Zelenko been made the COVID Czar, none of the lockdowns would have happened. To make matters worse Trump poured billions of taxpayer dollars into disastrous Operation Warp Speed, instead of taking the time to educate himself about vaccines, bioweapons, the Great Reset, and the New World Order. Either that or Trump is a part of the problem.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Luke 17:26 “Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. 27 People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.

The people being given in marriage were destroyed. Isn't the fact that angels were taking the daughters of men and mating with them what we are talking about and what He is talking about?
I'm not going to be dogmatic about this. I can't prove to you there will be no more Nephilim.
The scripture does say "also afterwards" After the flood.


But Jesus here says PEOPLE were marrying & being given in marriage. Not people were commiting abominations with angels.
Marrying- men/ Being given in marriage- women. Also that they were eating & drinking.


I don't think he is using symbolism or trying to reveal a deeper secret.
The motifs, symbols and allusions that The Lord used were all well established in prophecy. He could have easliy alluded to the Repha'im or Agag to give that message. Joshua- "giants in the land" I don't think he was being cryptic by mentioning Noah's days.


Aren't we hijacking the thread going
 

ZNP

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Donald Trump cannot be exonerated for choosing to become a part of the problem. When he ran for office he was fully aware that the Deep State was in control and all the departments of government had been thoroughly corrupted by the Obama administration. Trump had a moral obligation to root out all of Obama's appointees (including Fauci and all others in every department). He not only failed to do so, but he failed to properly vet Fraudster Anthony Fauci. Instead he made this Hillary-Clinton-lover the head of his task force and brought disaster to America. Fauci should be behind bars right now. Instead he is allowed to continue controlling the narrative, while he is working for China.

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko had sent a personal letter to Trump about his very successful HCQ combo pack which Trump ignored. Had Zelenko been made the COVID Czar, none of the lockdowns would have happened. To make matters worse Trump poured billions of taxpayer dollars into disastrous Operation Warp Speed, instead of taking the time to educate himself about vaccines, bioweapons, the Great Reset, and the New World Order. Either that or Trump is a part of the problem.
I was not exonerating Trump, I have no idea of his culpability. I was simply answering the question that was posed to me.
 

ZNP

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I'm not going to be dogmatic about this. I can't prove to you there will be no more Nephilim.
The scripture does say "also afterwards" After the flood.


But Jesus here says PEOPLE were marrying & being given in marriage. Not people were commiting abominations with angels.
Marrying- men/ Being given in marriage- women. Also that they were eating & drinking.


I don't think he is using symbolism or trying to reveal a deeper secret.
The motifs, symbols and allusions that The Lord used were all well established in prophecy. He could have easliy alluded to the Repha'im or Agag to give that message. Joshua- "giants in the land" I don't think he was being cryptic by mentioning Noah's days.
You refer to 8 people surviving the judgement. I can't see how anyone can discuss Noah without discussing the fact that it was God's judgement, not on humans getting married, but on angels mating with humans. So then, how could the end of the age be like the days of Noah if you are eliminating the core issue? If there is no judgement for this core issue then it can't be like the days of Noah.
 
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