PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GET THE COVID SHOT.

[DavidTree]

I'll send you a dictionary for Christmas or your birth-day...whichever comes first

I prefer facts....I would rather approach something from a factual basis then have people screaming from rooftops (aren't your neighbors complaining about the noise already? ). there are no facts to report on the end of SWABS. how dare you call them q-tips. the q-tips in the jar in the bathroom are now seriously offended

of course China prefers to do the derriere approach to the whole thing.....it's a$$ ackwards

you had better get back to work. harumph

LOVED IT - laughing - thank you

 

[Smoke]

1) Texas governor signs EO Banning vaccine mandates.

2) Texas signs law that prohibits business and government entities from requiring proof of vaccination.

God bless the great state of Texas!

I'm glad the Texas governor who happens to be fully vaccinated and took the antibody infusion has banned vaccination mandates. No one should be forced into it.

 

[rayzor]

Texas governor:If thees be a people? Should we be praying 4 them & their Family?

 

[ZNP]

"Many" is relative... 10,000 people having heart problems sounds like a lot, but when you consider 5.4 billion (# of vaccines administered globally) people, it's virtually nothing. Furthermore, that is assuming the vaccine is the cause of the heart problems to begin with.

Cardiovascular disease is the LEADING cause of death globally, killing 17.9 million people every year. We can't ignore this statistic and assume the vaccine did it unless we have verifiable proof that it is. If you have this proof, please present it. If you don't, clarify that you BELIEVE it's the cause and that you don't actually have any proof to base that belief on.

It is a relative number, and when you compare the deaths and adverse reactions to the vaccine listed in the VARS system for this vaccine relative to other vaccines that did not get approval it is much higher for this vaccine.

It is true that I don't have the autopsy results in my hand, which is weird. Why don't we have them? Why is it that doctors who are coming forward and saying things are being censored, blocked, suspended and have their licenses revoked? I thought we were in the stage of examining this vaccine, one would think that all of this would trigger autopsies and all kinds of transparent examinations, but no, say something negative about "this" and you get silenced and maybe even fired.

 

[ZNP]

Penn, ZNP, DavidTree... I know your ignore list is extensive, but I didn't know they were on your list... otherwise you'd clearly see them posting "sources" that the vaccine is killing people/degrading their blood cells to the point they will die prematurely, etc...

In case you aren't aware, the vaccine has also been talked as if it is the mark of the beast. I agree it's outrageous talk, but if you look in this thread, you'll find it.

Why is my name in here, can you point out the post where I said anything that you have referred to.

 

[ZNP]

Joe Biden is a puppet. I doubt many people like him. Nevertheless, please give the proper face of the vaccine to the guy who pushed for the creation of it in record time, Donald Trump.

Some people on the left have been caught saying they don't want the vaccine because it was created under Trump. Biden didn't do squat to help create the vaccines. Trump should get the credit he deserves (for those who are pro vaccine) but should be labeled a global elitest who is advocating for people taking the mark of the beast and/or dying from the vaccine (including himself) by those who are anti-vax.

Donald Trump has been very vocal in saying there should not be a mandate and it should be a decision that each person makes. I have no issue with the creation of the vaccine, the emergency authorization of the vaccine, or making it readily available to all who wish to have it. My issue is with mandating it, and with censoring debate about it, and with the lack of transparency into the adverse reactions to it.

 

[Smoke]

Why is my name in here, can you point out the post where I said anything that you have referred to.

No problem.

Don't stop there, you can win the day if you get that picture of your blood. You have been vaccinated, show us that there is no degradation of your blood cells and it will be like a one two punch!

 

[Smoke]

Donald Trump has been very vocal in saying there should not be a mandate and it should be a decision that each person makes. I have no issue with the creation of the vaccine, the emergency authorization of the vaccine, or making it readily available to all who wish to have it. My issue is with mandating it, and with censoring debate about it, and with the lack of transparency into the adverse reactions to it.

I have said there shouldn't be a mandate either... many people who are on the fence about the vaccine ALSO don't want a mandate for it. Nevertheless, Trump absolutely tells people to get vaccinated as do his disciples in office (Cruz, Abbott, Graham, etc...). That's the point I'm making... Trump is the face of this vaccine regardless of the alt-right not wanting him to be. Biden didn't do squat to get warp speed going.

The vaccine was created prior to Joe taking (stealing) office.

 

[Genipher]

"Many" is relative... 10,000 people having heart problems sounds like a lot, but when you consider 5.4 billion (# of vaccines administered globally) people, it's virtually nothing. Furthermore, that is assuming the vaccine is the cause of the heart problems to begin with.

Cardiovascular disease is the LEADING cause of death globally, killing 17.9 million people every year. We can't ignore this statistic and assume the vaccine did it unless we have verifiable proof that it is. If you have this proof, please present it. If you don't, clarify that you BELIEVE it's the cause and that you don't actually have any proof to base that belief on.

Ok. But isn't it the leading cause in adults over 60? What we're suddenly witnessing is young, healthy people with heart issues.

 

[flygplan]

Just a quick response (busy at work). I don't have the credentials this doctor has but many other doctors who do (who have also won a Nobel Prize) disagree adamantly.

The more a virus spreads, the higher likelihood of mutation. The vaccine slows the spread, thus reduces the chance of mutation. Viruses will mutate randomly (both sides agree to this), only a tiny minority think the vaccines make the virus stronger and the overwhelmingly majority of doctors and scientists say vaccines help to reduce mutations (variants) by limiting the replication of the virus. Each time a virus replicates, the likelihood of mutations goes up.

My science background can't hold a candlestick next to this French doctor, but from what I do know and from what makes the most sense, he is wrong here.

It's mind boggling that we should already know this, but we chose to pretend not to. To where these sources come from I wouldn't put past it that that doctor didn't even make that statement. It's like when we see memes about Abraham Lincoln quoting something he never said.

 

[flygplan]

I have said there shouldn't be a mandate either... many people who are on the fence about the vaccine ALSO don't want a mandate for it. Nevertheless, Trump absolutely tells people to get vaccinated as do his disciples in office (Cruz, Abbott, Graham, etc...). That's the point I'm making... Trump is the face of this vaccine regardless of the alt-right not wanting him to be. Biden didn't do squat to get warp speed going.

The vaccine was created prior to Joe taking (stealing) office.

There won't be a mandate, it's never how vaccination has worked, however companies should be free to adapt their policies to however they need to adapt them for, it's how it has always been.

 

[Smoke]

It's mind boggling that we should already know this, but we chose to pretend not to. To where these sources come from I wouldn't put past it that that doctor didn't even make that statement. It's like when we see memes about Abraham Lincoln quoting something he never said.

It's possible, but I did fact check Penn's source as he has a history of posting things that have been debunked by a multitude of fact checkers... turns out, the doctor did say it and is sticking to it.

 

[flygplan]

It's possible, but I did fact check Penn's source as he has a history of posting things that have been debunked by a multitude of fact checkers... turns out, the doctor did say it and is sticking to it.

Oh my, well, I remember a Dr. Simoncini in Italy who claimed baking soda alone cured cancer... and he was a doctor, so I guess anything can happen.

 

[rayzor]

Any one that is not under grace is a puppet.Wrong premise if u c any as a enemies rather victims of sin

 

[dave_in_KWC]

I am not offended. but you should watch your own virtue signalling self righteous broadcasting

the cartoon is still funny though

Can you say that in "potato-head language", please? (I have a Master's in Clinical Social Work and have been in private practice since 1987 and I still am not sure what you are saying I am doing, purportedly.)

 

[Smoke]

Ok. But isn't it the leading cause in adults over 60? What we're suddenly witnessing is young, healthy people with heart issues.

It's hard to quantify without having any sort of verifiable evidence or proof of the cause of deaths to begin with. As I said before when someone posted a source of a French singer dying some time after he was fully vaccinated, I googled him and he had leukemia prior to the pandemic... and that is what he died from, yet anti-vaxxers used his death and turned it around to blame the vaccine for causing his death.

So how many young people are dying of heart disease/cardiovascular disease NOW versus before the pandemic....? That's a great question. I would love to look at the numbers.... Just not from websites titled "VaccineIsMarkoftheBeast.com" or from a guy in his Sunday suit doing his best to turn his living room broadcast production look as if he is a reputable source.

 

[dave_in_KWC]

I am not offended. but you should watch your own virtue signalling self righteous broadcasting

the cartoon is still funny though

Did you just "should" on me?

 

[ZNP]

No problem.

That post is interpreted by you to be saying that people are dying right and left from the vaccine? It was a straight up question. You have the power to disprove the allegations that are being reported by various experts and doctors.

 

[ZNP]

There won't be a mandate, it's never how vaccination has worked, however companies should be free to adapt their policies to however they need to adapt them for, it's how it has always been.

Really? I have a contract with the DOE that was negotiated by our union, there is nothing in there about vaccine mandates, but the Mayor just decided to slap a vaccine mandate on everyone. Companies should be free to ignore contracts and just willy nilly do as they please?

 

[dave_in_KWC]

I am not offended. but you should watch your own virtue signalling self righteous broadcasting

the cartoon is still funny though

For the sake of me and the "unitiated":

"vir·tue sig·nal·ing (British: virtue signalling) noun derogatory (dare I say demeaning or could be viewed as "fill in the blank"?) the public expression of opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue: it's noticeable how often virtue signaling consists of saying you hate things | standing on the sidelines saying how awful the situation is does nothing except massage your ego by virtue signaling." (source: Apple Dictionary)