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Smoke

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Are COVID-19 vaccines causing antibody-dependent enhancement?

If vaccines did cause more variants, we would see cases and variants increase in tandem together in regions with high immunization rates. Data published from highly vaccinated populations has shown the contrary: a decrease in cases and fewer people for the virus to infect, making the virus unable to mutate more. Vaccines also help keep viral variants to a limited number, not a larger one.
So not only did covid-19 mutate prior to creation of the vaccine, Israel would be the hotspot of the world for different variants.
 

PennEd

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I'm thinking you are not really new :unsure::whistle::cool:
I’m betting the ranch this person is NOT new.

A big hint is when they keep their profile hidden. Most returners who don’t want to be identified with all the junk they posted in the past use this tactic.
 

PennEd

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Cause ya know, only conspiracy whackos believed there was something metallic in the poison that caused magnets 🧲 to stick to the injection site!

COVID VACCINES1.6m Moderna doses withdrawn in Japan over contamination


“It’s a substance that reacts to magnets,” the official told Nikkei, adding “It could be metal.”

Company confirms reports of particulate matter in vials, but finds 'no safety issues'

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/C...a-doses-withdrawn-in-Japan-over-contamination
 

cv5

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I'm aware of how Sweden (and other countries) are handling it. However, Sweden is a much smaller country than the U.S. with way less inhabitants. If you want to compare the U.S. then you should compare each state as a whole, because regulations regarding these issues vary from state to state, from county to county and even city to city. Pandemic guidelines in most the U.S. have been looser than at any country that I know of. But again, I'm in the south. I understand other states have it differently. Where I live in the U.S. there are no rights taken away from you whether you're vaccinated or not. And I'm not supportive of any law. I don't think there will be any federal laws regarding this, we have a sovereign and democratic system that hopefully will take care of that. However, yes, just as there are freedoms for not regulating it, there are freedoms from employers and companies to require what they need to required (within certain guidelines) to keep their employees and customers safe.
"safe"????

At this point, the data is accumulating to support the position that natural immunity is safe. And vaxxes are a portal to perpetual health crisis perdition.
 

cv5

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Chairman of Tokyo Metropolitan Medical Association Declares During Surge, Time for Ivermectin is Now

Greenlight for Ivermectin

In Dr. Ozaki’s recent speech, he declared that ivermectin has demonstrated significant benefits in reducing infections and deaths where the regimen is prophylactically administered for another indication. The head of the Metropolitan Medical Association declared that while clinical trials were important, it was time to greenlight doctors to prescribe ivermectin in association with giving the patient informed consent.
 
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"Nazi"= [not sees] has a different meaning 2 us.Even in the worst case case Scenario they r the one in trouble.
 
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flygplan

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Viruses mutate when they replicate. Errors in the "copying process" are known as mutations (which yield variants). One of the arguments for vaccines is that they [are intended to] limit or reduce the "copying process" or the spreading of the virus.

ADE is when we have the antibodies (from a vaccine) and our body/immune system overreacts to the virus which causes severe symptons, inflammation, etc... ADE has nothing to do with mutations... Viruses run the chance of mutating every time they replicate (copying errors as mentioned previously).

I'm sure I'll get an "x" for this post, but to my knowledge everything I said is true. If I'm mistaken, go ahead and "X" me but correct me as I want to be aware if I am wrong so I don't go out repeating misinformation.
No X here. Completely agree.
 

Gardenias

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the best drugs were in the 'bus' and emerg. they were stingy in the room and better in the or

I'm glad you found my post humorous cause I meant it that way. at least I was in and out relatively quickly with no
complications, but sounds like you had some bad stuff going on

purple hair and yellow skin....:oops:...my understanding of stuck stones is that they can be quite dangerous...that's the
reason I had so many tests...they were worried I might have had one too but thankfully, I didn't

it's great you have not lost your sense of humor....laughter is good for us :giggle:....sounds like you had a great doctor too

well, you don't plan on these things or think about them until they happen. Thank God for hospitals and a good staff
working in them

Absolutely thanking God.
It was the MOST painful thing I've ever experienced!

I'm older so I've had my share of surgeries😂😂

Laughter and merriment are good medicine,they spike up those feel good endorphins.

Other choice cry,I'd much rather laugh!😊
 

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But the foregoing isn’t even the worst part. WREG reported in its story, “Despite what happened to her son, [Ms. Buckner] is encouraging everyone to get fully vaccinated.” She did not say those words anywhere in the Fox 13 story or the WREG story. They simply conjured it up and printed it. Granted we don’t expect Ms. Buckner to say anything about it. So we will.
No they didn't. If this Fox 13 would have said themselves make sure you all go out get vaccinated so this don't happen to your kid it would have been outrageous if they were knowing this young lad was vaccinated. Setting aside the things we could say about it what a sad, sad story.

SCS offers grief counseling to all SCS students and faculty following recent COVID-19 deaths – FOX13 News Memphis (fox13memphis.com)
 
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SophieT

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Absolutely thanking God.
It was the MOST painful thing I've ever experienced!

I'm older so I've had my share of surgeries😂😂

Laughter and merriment are good medicine,they spike up those feel good endorphins.

Other choice cry,I'd much rather laugh!😊
the worst pain for me as well and that includes a badly broken shoulder some years back

I do like to laugh and it does actually make you feel better :giggle:
 

Aidan1

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Good point, let's lay out the conspiracy theory that they are unwilling to fully spell out.

First you would have to believe that the pandemic would be a man made virus, a theory that was completely discredited 18 months ago, but has since been proven to be true. So, OK, I guess we can proceed.

Second, you would have to believe that the US would work together with China and other world leaders to create this virus. A theory which was completely debunked by Fauci in his testimony before the Senate hearing committee before the evidence was released that proved this was in fact true. So, OK, I guess we can continue to proceed.

Third, the whole world would use this man made virus as an excuse to shut down the world's economy. Now of course we saw that the world did in fact shut down the world's economy, and yes there is a lot of evidence that the numbers killed and harmed by this virus were inflated purposefully to justify the lockdown. Now why would the most powerful people, the elites, the "city of Davos" want to shut down the economy? That is actually a little misleading, some industries were crushed, particularly small businesses, whereas other businesses had a banner year (Amazon, Zoom, etc). So why try to crush the middle class other than the fact that the middle class is the backbone of democracy. I mean if that were in fact what they were doing we would see evidence of totalitarian dictates. A dictator is completely contradictory to the US constitution, they would have to ignore the US constitution and begin dictating to Americans what they can and cannot do, where they can and cannot go, censor political speech, create black lists, get people fired, banned, etc. So, OK, I guess we have seen that so we can continue to proceed with this really bizarre conspiracy theory.

Fourth, so the idea is that these elites, the 1%, the people who profited from the mortgage meltdown and weren't prosecuted. You would have to believe that they don't care about you and only care about their own lives. Only then could you actually believe they would carry out the published strategic plans for world domination by the FreeMasons. The strategy is simple, since they are 1% they don't fight, instead they instigate 45% of the people to fight the other 45% of the people. For example they might instigate a race war between whites and all others in the US. They might empty jails and pay felons to cause chaos in the inner cities. They might promote defunding the police to help with this chaos. Another great war is to promote Muslims to fight Jews (backed by the US). Let them kill each other. Obviously you need to give the Muslims some help, leave billions of dollars of weaponry for them, give them a great victory to boost their ego, you know, things like that. OK, so we have seen all that play out as well, especially with what took place in Afghanistan. The beauty of this is they can blame it all on a president with dementia!

Fifth, now in this crazy plan you have the "vaccine", the crown jewel. You make the vaccine with something that can be stimulated by 5g radiation to absorb oxygen, and have this accumulate in your organs. You mandate that the US military all get vaccinated, and then you can easily defeat the US military leaving them only one option left (nuclear option). The US and China wipe each other out, Muslims and Jews wipe each other out, and now you have an open door for "the man of lawlessness" to become head of a reformed Roman empire and once again rule the world. True, you had to kill billions to achieve this, but hey, you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs as Stalin once said.
Well, an interesting view. It sounds logic. But I think this is to easy. It will not come in this way.
The head behind this conspiracy theorys are humans. Behind the Antichrist system and the coming true of revealation 13 is a different. This is the devil itself with an overnatural Power.
The vaccine or what else the conspiracy theorys teaching is no problem. The devil dont need this. The image of the beast will do it. Rev. 13,15.
Many Christians creating fear about the vaccine. But this is not the danger. The danger is to become confuse and sick of fear.
And bring you away from spreading the gospel.
Let the goverments and rich people do what the did during the whole mankind.
Our Job is not to fight them, but to spread the gospel.
 
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SophieT

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I’m betting the ranch this person is NOT new.

A big hint is when they keep their profile hidden. Most returners who don’t want to be identified with all the junk they posted in the past use this tactic.

agree

another giveaway, is when they go around disliking or xing your posts that had less then nothing to do with them

besides, the style is so familiar

we just might be thinking of the same person too :cool:
 
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SophieT

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In the US under Fauci the protocol is take some ibuprofen, wait until the virus spreads to your lungs and you can't breathe, then get on a ventilator and die."
the pied piper of death

we don't listen to this little liar in our house and only fear would make someone listen to him because he keeps changing the story...why would anyone listen to someone who lies as much as he does?

like Biden....why would anyone listen to an avowed lying thief who has made a fortune off the American tax payer and is best buds with communist countries and now turns out blood brother with the Taliban?

blood brother Biden...the Taliban kills and Biden helps them kill now...blood brothers
 
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SophieT

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Canadian Sanctuary - The Alberta government have confirmed to us that they will *not* be providing the federal government with Albertan's vaccination status and data for use in a federal vaccine passport.


you go Alberta! beautiful province...went riding in the foothills of the Rockies some years back there among other activities

I am really wondering what the election in Sept will reveal. Are folks still going to vote for the effeminate Treaudeau?

or have they had enough of his dystopian plans for Canada?
 
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flygplan

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you go Alberta! beautiful province...went riding in the foothills of the Rockies some years back there among other activities

I am really wondering what the election in Sept will reveal. Are folks still going to vote for the effeminate Treaudeau?

or have they had enough of his dystopian plans for Canada?
If I were Canadian, I'd want Kevin O'Leary to run haha
 

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'This Ends The Debate' - Israeli Study Shows Natural Immunity 13x More Effective Than Vaccines At Stopping Delta

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...immunity-13x-more-effective-vaccines-stopping
I pulled up the actual study. I believe the FDA looked passed foreign opinion on vaccine approval. They usually include that but denied it for Pfizer.

Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity:
reinfections versus breakthrough infections


Sivan Gazit, MD MA1,2*; Roei Shlezinger, BA1; Galit Perez, MN MA2; Roni Lotan,
PhD2; Asaf Peretz, MD1,3; Amir Ben-Tov, MD1,4; Dani Cohen, PhD4; Khitam
Muhsen, PhD4; Gabriel Chodick, PhD MHA2,4; Tal Patalon, MD1,2

*Corresponding author.

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Kahn Sagol Maccabi (KSM) Research & Innovation Center, Maccabi Healthcare Services, Tel Aviv, 68125, Israel.
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Maccabitech Institute for Research and Innovation, Maccabi Healthcare Services, Israel.
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Internal Medicine COVID-19 Ward, Samson Assuta Ashdod University Hospital, Ashdod Israel.
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Sackler Faculty of Medicine, School of Public Health, Tel Aviv University, Tel Aviv, Israel.

The authors declare they have no conflict of interest.

Funding: There was no external funding for the project.


Results:
SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well. When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naïve vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease. SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected.

Conclusions:
This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.
 
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